| No deal on 17:54 - Apr 1 with 645 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 17:42 - Apr 1 by spudgun |
Whilst I am aware there are many who may not share my view, and I, for one, would fully understand - and indeed respect it unconditionally, I must administer my admiration for John Bercow`s profound articulateness - albeit bordering on a verbose loquaciousness - and, may I say, edging disconcertingly toward a slight pomposity of style, which , nonetheless, makes for a very entertaining and immensely watchable spectacle - as he is a a veritable master of the subordinate clause, or for that matter, any clause you care to mention. Order! Ordure... [Post edited 1 Apr 2019 17:59]
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Innit just, bro.  |  |
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| No deal on 18:09 - Apr 1 with 634 views | spell_chekker |
| No deal on 17:54 - Apr 1 by Lala |
He’s certainly a quirky character.
A bit thespian in his way. |
I've never heard of him!!
The Common Market 2 sounds quite good, staying in the economic area but getting out of the political system.
What do you think? |  |
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| No deal on 18:24 - Apr 1 with 632 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 18:09 - Apr 1 by spell_chekker |
I've never heard of him!!
The Common Market 2 sounds quite good, staying in the economic area but getting out of the political system.
What do you think? |
What is going on in the Commons this evening?
If you are just joining us, MPs are this evening trying to decide which Brexit options they favour.
The votes are non-binding but are intended as a way to find a strategy that can gain majority support.
These are the four [of eight] options they are considering today, as selected by Speaker John Bercow:
Motion C: Customs union
Motion D: 'Common market 2.0'
Motion E: confirmatory public vote
Motion G: parliamentary supremacy
Conservative MPs have been given a free vote on the motions which means they won't be told by party bosses which way to go.
The cabinet has been told to abstain.
Earlier, Labour MPs were urged to back Motion D, which has been described a plan to keep the UK in a Norway-style relationship with the EU. | |
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| No deal on 19:07 - Apr 1 with 616 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
Pick the bones out of these...
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| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 19:47 - Apr 1 with 610 views | spudgun |
| No deal on 18:24 - Apr 1 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
What is going on in the Commons this evening?
If you are just joining us, MPs are this evening trying to decide which Brexit options they favour.
The votes are non-binding but are intended as a way to find a strategy that can gain majority support.
These are the four [of eight] options they are considering today, as selected by Speaker John Bercow:
Motion C: Customs union
Motion D: 'Common market 2.0'
Motion E: confirmatory public vote
Motion G: parliamentary supremacy
Conservative MPs have been given a free vote on the motions which means they won't be told by party bosses which way to go.
The cabinet has been told to abstain.
Earlier, Labour MPs were urged to back Motion D, which has been described a plan to keep the UK in a Norway-style relationship with the EU. |
Motion G could be interesting...
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| No deal on 20:40 - Apr 1 with 605 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 19:47 - Apr 1 by spudgun |
Motion G could be interesting...
Mark Francois |
Parliament have progressed the "shitshow" further in a week than the government has in three years. |  |
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| No deal on 20:54 - Apr 1 with 601 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 20:40 - Apr 1 by ROTTWEILERS |
Parliament have progressed the "shitshow" further in a week than the government has in three years. |
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| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 22:54 - Apr 1 with 590 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
Classy | |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 23:11 - Apr 1 with 586 views | spell_chekker |
All proposals rejected. Again.
What next? | |
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| No deal on 23:22 - Apr 1 with 581 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 23:11 - Apr 1 by spell_chekker |
All proposals rejected. Again.
What next? |
No surprise, still too many options were put forward. On to Wednesday now, and another (final round) of voting. I'm guessing there will be 2 options, Clarke/Benn Customs Union, and the Kyle/Wilson 2nd ref to confirm any deal made by Parliament.
Once again, SNP, LibDems, Greens and Change UK (formally the Tiggers) either voted against or abstained on the CU. [Post edited 1 Apr 2019 23:23]
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| No deal on 08:00 - Apr 2 with 559 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 23:22 - Apr 1 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
No surprise, still too many options were put forward. On to Wednesday now, and another (final round) of voting. I'm guessing there will be 2 options, Clarke/Benn Customs Union, and the Kyle/Wilson 2nd ref to confirm any deal made by Parliament.
Once again, SNP, LibDems, Greens and Change UK (formally the Tiggers) either voted against or abstained on the CU. [Post edited 1 Apr 2019 23:23]
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They're getting closer to a solution though. May needs to give up on her deal. Talk about flogging a dead horse and.... word to the wise Theresa.... if you want to stop your deal being blocked by Bercow for looking "substantially similar" to previous defeated votes....
...for starters, stop naming them MV1, MV2, MV3 etc FFS dozy mare | |
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| No deal on 16:39 - Apr 2 with 542 views | kophero |
| No deal on 08:00 - Apr 2 by ROTTWEILERS |
They're getting closer to a solution though. May needs to give up on her deal. Talk about flogging a dead horse and.... word to the wise Theresa.... if you want to stop your deal being blocked by Bercow for looking "substantially similar" to previous defeated votes....
...for starters, stop naming them MV1, MV2, MV3 etc FFS dozy mare |
We'll know by tomorrow or Thursday whether there really is a solution that we can live with. Whether the EU will is a completely different question. | | | |
| No deal on 19:41 - Apr 2 with 530 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 16:39 - Apr 2 by kophero |
We'll know by tomorrow or Thursday whether there really is a solution that we can live with. Whether the EU will is a completely different question. |
JC will be enjoying himself right now. ERG less so. | |
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| No deal on 20:00 - Apr 2 with 528 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
The whole process has been back to front.
So fireside talk with JC, if can't agree common ground, then a series of indicative votes, which are happening at the moment.
Wonder if any ministers will quit over this? Comfy ministerial cars often trumps principals | |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 20:18 - Apr 2 with 521 views | Lala |
It’s still an absolute mess. And we are still no further away from a potential no deal in my opinion. |  |
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| No deal on 21:11 - Apr 2 with 510 views | basilrobbiereborn |
| No deal on 20:18 - Apr 2 by Lala |
It’s still an absolute mess. And we are still no further away from a potential no deal in my opinion. |
I still think that her deal, or something very like it, has a chance. Tomorrow and Thursday are going to be interesting. | |
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| No deal on 21:25 - Apr 2 with 506 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 21:11 - Apr 2 by basilrobbiereborn |
I still think that her deal, or something very like it, has a chance. Tomorrow and Thursday are going to be interesting. |
BRR... Welcome back.
The WA will pass (it always was in some form). It's the addons on the Political Deceleration that is the problem. Think the WA, PD + Custom Union will pass, with something added to ensure that the future PM (untill/if a election) is bound to that in the next stage of negotiations. (The really important bit of this whole process). [Post edited 2 Apr 2019 21:26]
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| No deal on 21:31 - Apr 2 with 500 views | basilrobbiereborn |
| No deal on 21:25 - Apr 2 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
BRR... Welcome back.
The WA will pass (it always was in some form). It's the addons on the Political Deceleration that is the problem. Think the WA, PD + Custom Union will pass, with something added to ensure that the future PM (untill/if a election) is bound to that in the next stage of negotiations. (The really important bit of this whole process). [Post edited 2 Apr 2019 21:26]
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BBTRR
I think that is a sound analysis. It will rupture the Conservative Party, but that may be no bad thing in the long run.
I love the idea of a Political Deceleration, btw. Sometimes predictive text borders on genius.
And thank you for the welcoming words. I had stayed away for the good of the board, but that doesn't seem to be such an issue at the moment. | |
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| No deal on 21:33 - Apr 2 with 497 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 21:31 - Apr 2 by basilrobbiereborn |
BBTRR
I think that is a sound analysis. It will rupture the Conservative Party, but that may be no bad thing in the long run.
I love the idea of a Political Deceleration, btw. Sometimes predictive text borders on genius.
And thank you for the welcoming words. I had stayed away for the good of the board, but that doesn't seem to be such an issue at the moment. |
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| No deal on 07:53 - Apr 3 with 443 views | Lala |
| No deal on 21:54 - Apr 2 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
FFS..... Can't even blame the drink, not had a drop in 10 years  |
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| No deal on 09:16 - Apr 3 with 431 views | spudgun |
Whilst acknowledging the very good sense in wagering a hard earned tenner on the visionary political colossus that is Christopher Grayling, I feel that Mark Francois may be the dark pygmy pony come the bun fight... | | | |
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