| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 18:44 - Dec 1 with 2309 views | jackrabbit |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 17:01 - Dec 1 by icecoldjack |
All a bit meh.
Not good enough in first half, had a go in the 2nd half, a selection that had defeat written all over it, we are a team that has now found it's level of performance.
I know people will disagree but not having some old heads like routs and dyer to help the young players is a major negative for me, there are obvious financial reasons for not using this no d of experience, well, if things continue they will have no option.
I'm not too down, it's just all a bit predictable. [Post edited 1 Dec 2018 17:05]
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Totally agree. It seems like Swans do not have a pot to piss in, if they can't field 2 long time servants like Dyer and Routs. They're no superstars but they're no worse than any of the kids that we're fielding currently and they have the advantage of experience - been there, done it. We're running around like headless chickens on the field currently. A little bit of Dyer/Routs nous to supplement the youthful efforts of our new boys would seem to me to be a sensible option. Let's face it, something needs to change or we're in a death spiral. |  | |  |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 18:50 - Dec 1 with 2277 views | jasper_T |
No one outside the top end of the top leagues is striking a ball like Wilson at the moment. Ludicrous finishes every week. |  | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 19:36 - Dec 1 with 2111 views | jackrmee |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 17:21 - Dec 1 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
How is he one of the brightest managers around? |
Read some reports about his time in Sweden.
Read some reports about his qualifications.
Read some reports about the way he treats and improves his players.
Or alternatively, find me some negative reports on the bloke. Doubt you'll find any at all.
I really don't want to enter into any type of dispute, name calling or general negative discussion on this site, but it's becoming increasingly difficult to converse with such negative and downright repugnant folk.
Think I'm going to have a break from this site. It's quite pathetic. |  |
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| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 19:55 - Dec 1 with 2051 views | jackrmee |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 18:33 - Dec 1 by Kilkennyjack |
But this year was our best chance to go back up ... google says ..
Relegated teams are reported to receive a £40million parachute payment.
This equates to 55 per cent of the broadcast revenues in the first year after relegation.
It then goes down to 40 per cent (£35m) in year two and to 20 per cent (£15m) in year three. |
Parachute payments mean bog all to us, as we are spending them all on wages and not strengthening with them anyway.
Our wage bill will reduce with the parachute payments year after year.
They are irrelevant imo. Therefore, it's not more difficult for us to get promoted the longer we stay in this division, rather the opposite, as our players gain more experience and learn GP's philosophy and tactics. | |
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| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 19:56 - Dec 1 with 2049 views | DanWelsh86 |
Lads,
Calm down.
It's a young squad, and they need time to grow and develop. Yes it's hard I know, no we won't be getting promoted this season.
Just calm down. | | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 20:12 - Dec 1 with 1993 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 19:36 - Dec 1 by jackrmee |
Read some reports about his time in Sweden.
Read some reports about his qualifications.
Read some reports about the way he treats and improves his players.
Or alternatively, find me some negative reports on the bloke. Doubt you'll find any at all.
I really don't want to enter into any type of dispute, name calling or general negative discussion on this site, but it's becoming increasingly difficult to converse with such negative and downright repugnant folk.
Think I'm going to have a break from this site. It's quite pathetic. |
Reports about his time in Sweden are completely irrelevant. We play in the English Football League, not Sweden.
What qualifications does he have relevant to managing in The Championship?
How he treats and motivates a bunch of Swedes on a few hundred pounds a week means nothing. He now has to motivate the likes of Leroy Fer and others sitting on their final bumper contract of the careers with little to no interest in giving 110% every week. |  |
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| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 20:22 - Dec 1 with 1951 views | Fireboy2 |
The players are all human beings and GP has the skills to get the best out of them no matter how much money they are on |  | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 20:49 - Dec 1 with 1883 views | mahoss |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 18:33 - Dec 1 by Kilkennyjack |
But this year was our best chance to go back up ... google says ..
Relegated teams are reported to receive a £40million parachute payment.
This equates to 55 per cent of the broadcast revenues in the first year after relegation.
It then goes down to 40 per cent (£35m) in year two and to 20 per cent (£15m) in year three. |
Spot on
I don't get this "oh we,re not ready yet to go back up yet,we,ll choose when that happens",unbelievable.
We have 2 seasons where it's by far our best chance to go back up,this season,and next season,that's it.
After that it gets much harder,ask Leeds,Sheffield and all the other big clubs fans about it !
Baffling........ | | | |
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| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 21:12 - Dec 1 with 1840 views | Private_Partz |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 18:41 - Dec 1 by monmouth |
You don't think the Yankos are pulling all the strings now?
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Not sure what they are up to Mon. They are very much part time owners imho hence their faith in Jenkins from the off.
I don't think they ever had much interest beyond the bank balance.
As far as I can see Potter has the biggest say on signings and Jenks has the purse strings with the instruction that no American money must be spent. |  |
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| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 21:15 - Dec 1 with 1831 views | angryjack |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 17:21 - Dec 1 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
How is he one of the brightest managers around? |
Because he has and can do more with these rookies who had a handful of appearances between them and players out on loan at league one clubs than another manager could do ie Clement | | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 21:27 - Dec 1 with 1789 views | legoman |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 19:36 - Dec 1 by jackrmee |
Read some reports about his time in Sweden.
Read some reports about his qualifications.
Read some reports about the way he treats and improves his players.
Or alternatively, find me some negative reports on the bloke. Doubt you'll find any at all.
I really don't want to enter into any type of dispute, name calling or general negative discussion on this site, but it's becoming increasingly difficult to converse with such negative and downright repugnant folk.
Think I'm going to have a break from this site. It's quite pathetic. |
...........but its results and points that matter. And only these. We ain't getting enough of either. |  |
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| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 21:37 - Dec 1 with 1767 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 21:15 - Dec 1 by angryjack |
Because he has and can do more with these rookies who had a handful of appearances between them and players out on loan at league one clubs than another manager could do ie Clement |
Except that most of those rookies you are talking about were playing that style of football a year before Mr Potter came along.
So sorry he does not get the kudos for that. | | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 21:42 - Dec 1 with 1759 views | valleyboy |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 17:47 - Dec 1 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
He had success in Sweden is the likely answer. Quite how that makes him one of the brightest managers around baffles me.
Eddie Howe is a bright manager. That man at Arsenal is a bright manager. So is Guardiola. A man playing Declan John ahead of Martin Olsson and Kyle Naughton isn't a bright manager. |
How deluded are you???
Look at the players at Man City and Arsenal against the inexperience young players that Potter has to pick from
If I was Potter and if he’s reading the baloney that you and a few other write about, I would walk away and let a new manager take over and let Swansea sink to the bootom of the Football League as what the likes of you lot deserve
What does the likes of you and a few others know why John was picked over Olsson for today’s game
Do you see them every day in training
Are you privilege to what the Analysts have to say about the opposition
Know all about the fitness of every player in the sqaud
Is any player carrying an injury that you don’t know about
A problem with a players attitude
See’s players already struggling with the physicality of playing in the Championship, even if you can’t
I doubt it, but you come out with an opinion that you think is right
I have been arguing the point with many Swansea fans I know, that I think that Potter will have done well to keep Swansea in the Championship let alone of thinking of the playoffs
There’s only 8 points between Swansea and the relegation three, where the bookies can see that potter as a small young | | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 21:44 - Dec 1 with 1753 views | jasper_T |
You'd quit your job and ruin your career because of a bit of criticism online, would you? | | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 21:45 - Dec 1 with 1747 views | TailGunner |
Can't really argue with the list above, other than the majority of Jacks see it this way, the minority are turning slowly on the manager.
The same minority that were expecting the play offs after back to back wins 3 games ago. | | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 21:47 - Dec 1 with 1744 views | valleyboy |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 21:42 - Dec 1 by valleyboy |
How deluded are you???
Look at the players at Man City and Arsenal against the inexperience young players that Potter has to pick from
If I was Potter and if he’s reading the baloney that you and a few other write about, I would walk away and let a new manager take over and let Swansea sink to the bootom of the Football League as what the likes of you lot deserve
What does the likes of you and a few others know why John was picked over Olsson for today’s game
Do you see them every day in training
Are you privilege to what the Analysts have to say about the opposition
Know all about the fitness of every player in the sqaud
Is any player carrying an injury that you don’t know about
A problem with a players attitude
See’s players already struggling with the physicality of playing in the Championship, even if you can’t
I doubt it, but you come out with an opinion that you think is right
I have been arguing the point with many Swansea fans I know, that I think that Potter will have done well to keep Swansea in the Championship let alone of thinking of the playoffs
There’s only 8 points between Swansea and the relegation three, where the bookies can see that potter as a small young |
I’ll finish off in what I was saying as I pressed the reply button by mistake
There’s only 8 points betwee Swansea and the bottom three, and where the bookies can see that Potter has a small, young, inexperienced squad to pick is team from and that’s why the odds are dropping as a result | | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 22:13 - Dec 1 with 1676 views | Loyal |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 20:49 - Dec 1 by mahoss |
Spot on
I don't get this "oh we,re not ready yet to go back up yet,we,ll choose when that happens",unbelievable.
We have 2 seasons where it's by far our best chance to go back up,this season,and next season,that's it.
After that it gets much harder,ask Leeds,Sheffield and all the other big clubs fans about it !
Baffling........ |
However the club has spent next to nothing on this squad ...
No EPL money used. |  |
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| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 22:15 - Dec 1 with 1671 views | TailGunner |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 21:47 - Dec 1 by valleyboy |
I’ll finish off in what I was saying as I pressed the reply button by mistake
There’s only 8 points betwee Swansea and the bottom three, and where the bookies can see that Potter has a small, young, inexperienced squad to pick is team from and that’s why the odds are dropping as a result |
Lost 3 games to 3 teams with better players than us. People are picking things apart, lashing out needing someone to blame.
Haydn is right on this.
The manager has a decimated squad.
Shorn of quality and experience. The experience we left have one eye on next club as running out of contract.
Extreme negligence by owners. Old & new
We won't go down, but FFS lay the blame for our woes where it belongs.
These yanks do not lose sleep over our predicament.
28 wealthy people sharing the outlay, small change if it goes tits up.
They'll shrug shoulders and take the loss & move on | | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 22:23 - Dec 1 with 1655 views | jack_lord |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 21:47 - Dec 1 by valleyboy |
I’ll finish off in what I was saying as I pressed the reply button by mistake
There’s only 8 points betwee Swansea and the bottom three, and where the bookies can see that Potter has a small, young, inexperienced squad to pick is team from and that’s why the odds are dropping as a result |
I am very disappointed with the way he is rotating the inexperienced squad but perhaps there is some method to his "madness" - who knows?
I would like a bit more consistency to the first team line up just for the flow of the team. I can understand why he is freezing out the old timers as they may well decide to move on and free up our coffers. If they do and our wage bill is balanced then we do have circa £40 million to address problem areas next season.
I just hope that the morale of the team and of the supporters isn't affected too much in the coming months. |  |
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| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 22:34 - Dec 1 with 1637 views | mahoss |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 22:13 - Dec 1 by Loyal |
However the club has spent next to nothing on this squad ...
No EPL money used. |
Yes
You've got to wonder what the plan is really,although most people have got a pretty good idea. | | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 22:36 - Dec 1 with 1633 views | Thrasher6 |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 20:22 - Dec 1 by Fireboy2 |
The players are all human beings and GP has the skills to get the best out of them no matter how much money they are on |
This. |  |
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| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 23:32 - Dec 1 with 1537 views | TenbySwan |
Listening to the 7 minutes long after match press conference on Facebook SwansTV Potter deserves all our support.
Would you rather see Mowbray, Pulis Dowie or Nigel Adkins for example here.
Goals on Wed could have been avoided and again both goals today also, we gave Wilson too much time to shoot for first goal and over exuberance from Oil gave them the ball for the second goal. Cutting out these mistakes.will help. |  | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 23:54 - Dec 1 with 1518 views | jasper_T |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 23:32 - Dec 1 by TenbySwan |
Listening to the 7 minutes long after match press conference on Facebook SwansTV Potter deserves all our support.
Would you rather see Mowbray, Pulis Dowie or Nigel Adkins for example here.
Goals on Wed could have been avoided and again both goals today also, we gave Wilson too much time to shoot for first goal and over exuberance from Oil gave them the ball for the second goal. Cutting out these mistakes.will help. |
I've watched the goal too many times and I'm not sure who's at fault for Wilson's first. Grimes is basically stranded alone in midfield when Wilson gets the ball (Fulton & Celina in no mans' land jogging back), and the back three is entirely out of shape (dealing with 3 Derby players all moving different directions) so he can't go flying out to close him down without opening more spaces.
In the end his attempted block is bang in line with the goal. Wilson doesn't score without that ridiculous late bend bringing it back on target and into the top corner.
Maybe John was supposed to go in with him? Or Joe push out? | | | |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 00:10 - Dec 2 with 1494 views | jackrmee |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 20:12 - Dec 1 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Reports about his time in Sweden are completely irrelevant. We play in the English Football League, not Sweden.
What qualifications does he have relevant to managing in The Championship?
How he treats and motivates a bunch of Swedes on a few hundred pounds a week means nothing. He now has to motivate the likes of Leroy Fer and others sitting on their final bumper contract of the careers with little to no interest in giving 110% every week. |
As Fireboy said...players are humans whether they are from Sweden or England or wherever. He is proven to get the best out of humans.
Your judgemental posts are starting to grate on me. Bellend. | |
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| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 00:28 - Dec 2 with 1474 views | TNT |
| The Official Derby County Vs Swansea City Match Thread on 05:57 - Dec 1 by Loyal |
Gloucester eh ?
Quite a lot of jacks there, I'm surprised Fred West didn't kidnap you, dress you up and lick your twix. |
You are clearly making a late poty push, as we enter December.
I tend not to vote for this bollox, but I did for yours last year.  | |
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