| Game Off 12:25 - Jan 20 with 25672 views | Daley_Lama |
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| Game Off on 13:44 - Jan 20 with 2619 views | meeee |
Just seen pictures of the Accrington pitch and it’s like a bowling green, surely the weather hasn’t been that different to ours. Maybe we should ask them for tips [Post edited 20 Jan 2018 14:55]
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| Game Off on 13:46 - Jan 20 with 2593 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Game Off on 13:42 - Jan 20 by judd |
Fool it, a day at the races then |
It's a hard life, just play the game (or not) |  |
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| Game Off on 13:48 - Jan 20 with 2577 views | TVOS1907 |
| Game Off on 13:08 - Jan 20 by D_Alien |
Difficult to know what to make of this whole situation, but I don't think the word crisis would be too strong a term
It's obviously going to affect our chances of gaining any momentum in the relegation battle. It'll adversely affect how new recruits are integrated into the setup, and be a blow to their morale plus any further signings won't exactly be encouraged if they're aware of how poor our playing surface is
The only recourse, as suggested before, is an emergency relay. Perhaps cancel the Wigan fixture and just go for it, before it's too late |
That's a good point about the Wigan fixture; I've just suggested the same to R17, as it would then give us two-and-a-half weeks before the MK Dons game/FA Cup replay. |  |
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| Game Off on 13:48 - Jan 20 with 2576 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Game Off on 13:44 - Jan 20 by meeee |
Just seen pictures of the Accrington pitch and it’s like a bowling green, surely the weather hasn’t been that different to ours. Maybe we should ask them for tips [Post edited 20 Jan 2018 14:55]
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We need to be asking if we can play there | |
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| Game Off on 13:48 - Jan 20 with 2573 views | TVOS1907 |
| Game Off on 13:17 - Jan 20 by 442Dale |
And now they’ve called off the Freddie Mercury tribute planned for after the game.
Could this day get any worse? The disappointment is almost tangible amongst Queen fans, nationwide. |
Surely the show must go on...
Edit: Booo, richfoad beat me to it! [Post edited 20 Jan 2018 13:50]
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| Game Off on 13:49 - Jan 20 with 2558 views | nordenblue |
| Game Off on 13:44 - Jan 20 by meeee |
Just seen pictures of the Accrington pitch and it’s like a bowling green, surely the weather hasn’t been that different to ours. Maybe we should ask them for tips [Post edited 20 Jan 2018 14:55]
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They've done well as I worked in Burnley and travelled back through Haslingden this morning and the snow was pretty bad over there |  | | |
| Game Off on 13:51 - Jan 20 with 2535 views | 49thseason |
So, someone thinks its a really good idea to dump tons of sand on the pitch and suddenly the pitch is waterlogged? Is it not the case that previous large amounts of sand have clogged the drains and resulted in countless postponements?
Stupid decision or deliberate? |  | | |
| Game Off on 13:52 - Jan 20 with 2526 views | electricblue |
Its a Scandal that Dale have all these different covers and weed growing lights..
Is somebody going to put the club Under Pressure for answers ........ |  |
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| Game Off on 13:54 - Jan 20 with 2496 views | BigKindo |
It will be interesting to see if Hornets pre season friendly can go ahead tomorrow. Up here above Cronkey Common it has sleeted all morning and now it is turning to snow. The expected heavy snow last night never arrived However the footpaths around the Common were lethal under foot with ice at 11-30pm last night. The weather forecasters got it wrong again. My back lawn has drainage and is gradually sloped but it is a quagmire and that without football having been played upon it. Nevertheless I am disappointed that the game was called off and hope that some serious decisions are taken re the pitch in the immediate future. |  | | |
| Game Off on 14:03 - Jan 20 with 2413 views | dalenumber2 |
Do those covers we have not provide any protection against the rain/sleet?
Because if it's waterlogged after four hours of light sleet this morning I am very surprised. I am wondering if there are any other reasons that have not been stated for the game being called off. |  | | |
| Game Off on 14:06 - Jan 20 with 2388 views | 442Dale |
Wagg on GMR said he was there when the ref called the game off, he used the phrase “not a chance” |  |
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| Game Off on 14:07 - Jan 20 with 2377 views | dingdangblue |
| Game Off on 13:13 - Jan 20 by rochdaleriddler |
Maybe, but maybe the pitch would have done this whoever tended it |
Surely the groundsman should be an expert on pitches, be responsible for how it is laid and maintained. It's now 2 seasons in a row (since our previous groundsman left) that pitches have been awful come the new year. |  |
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| Game Off on 14:10 - Jan 20 with 2351 views | Dale23years |
| Game Off on 14:07 - Jan 20 by dingdangblue |
Surely the groundsman should be an expert on pitches, be responsible for how it is laid and maintained. It's now 2 seasons in a row (since our previous groundsman left) that pitches have been awful come the new year. |
Totally agree,even at start of season the pitch didn't look like we expected it to be.
Come back Oli, Dubai is not a patch on Rochdale | |
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| Game Off on 14:10 - Jan 20 with 2350 views | 442Dale |
| Game Off on 14:07 - Jan 20 by dingdangblue |
Surely the groundsman should be an expert on pitches, be responsible for how it is laid and maintained. It's now 2 seasons in a row (since our previous groundsman left) that pitches have been awful come the new year. |
One of the biggest problems last season was that it never seemed right from the start. It crumbled in pre-season after slide tackles near the Sandy. No expert, but it didn’t appear to be a solid structure. | |
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| Game Off on 14:11 - Jan 20 with 2346 views | 442Dale |
| Game Off on 14:06 - Jan 20 by 442Dale |
Wagg on GMR said he was there when the ref called the game off, he used the phrase “not a chance” |
When he arrived “it really was looking the worse for wear”
Couple of corners filled on Matey Bingo too. [Post edited 20 Jan 2018 14:14]
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| Game Off on 14:15 - Jan 20 with 2316 views | BigKindo |
Yippee! It has stopped sleeting/snowing. Out with lawnmower. That's this afternoon sorted. | | | |
| Game Off on 14:19 - Jan 20 with 2281 views | R17ALE |
| Game Off on 13:08 - Jan 20 by D_Alien |
Difficult to know what to make of this whole situation, but I don't think the word crisis would be too strong a term
It's obviously going to affect our chances of gaining any momentum in the relegation battle. It'll adversely affect how new recruits are integrated into the setup, and be a blow to their morale plus any further signings won't exactly be encouraged if they're aware of how poor our playing surface is
The only recourse, as suggested before, is an emergency relay. Perhaps cancel the Wigan fixture and just go for it, before it's too late |
Crisis is definitely the word sadly. I have seen a couple of pictures of the pitch that were texted to me and my reaction was one of horror. Real horror.
I've not seen the pitch looking so sorry for itself since around 2000 - 01 when we had loads of games postponed and even home ties in the AWS away as our pitch was knackered.
What worries me is whether the situation is self-inflicted.
Based on nothing more than the evidence of my own eyes I think....
Mon 1st Jan. We played Blackpool through awful rain. The pitch I thought held up well and I remarked at the time that in years gone by it would have been postponed or abandoned. I was quite encouraged by the pitch that day - more so than by the result!
Tues 9th Jan. We hosted Lincoln in the Checkatrades, losing a scrappy match. It was noticeable that the pitch was cutting up terribly which helped Lincoln's long ball style, but made us completely impotent using our style. I was surprised there was no after match reference to the state of the pitch following the game, but deep down I knew something had badly gone wrong. A bit like Police Chief Brody knowing there's a great white shark out there, I knew our problems had resurfaced.
As in many instances from the past that didn't work then, and therefore won't work now, we just put tonnes of sand on it. Smothered it in sand. But I suspect this wasn't the first error.
My guess, and it is only a guess, is that we allowed the soaking pitch to freeze post-Blackpool. Most people know that when water freezes it expands destroying anything in its way. Most people know that water drains from a pitch via the sward or root. The longer the root, the better the drainage. The roots help make up what I assume is still known as the structure of the pitch with fibre-sand filling the gap between the roots and the drains.
The post - Blackpool freeze will have damaged the roots, and therefore the drainage once the thaw set in. By the Checkatrades game you could see the top few inches of the pitch had become jelly like in texture and was cutting up, bobbling and was generally fooked.
The sand, I presume was to harden the jelly, but with sand comes that benefit, yet also a negative that drainage will suffer further. The sand will also damage grass cover which erodes the root structure.
I don't know if it possible for the club to get a tractor onto the pitch, but I hope they can and get it verti-drained on Monday. They might also need to invest in sand-slitting the pitch which does little for the surface but helps a lot with draining one.
I wouldn't say the answer is to relay the pitch. Far from it. You wouldn't put a new carpet down on shit floor boards for example. And I hope we can utilise our frost covers more effectively going forwards. |  |
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| Game Off on 14:21 - Jan 20 with 2268 views | Bobbyjoe |
| Game Off on 13:44 - Jan 20 by meeee |
Just seen pictures of the Accrington pitch and it’s like a bowling green, surely the weather hasn’t been that different to ours. Maybe we should ask them for tips [Post edited 20 Jan 2018 14:55]
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| Game Off on 14:23 - Jan 20 with 2248 views | ChaffRAFC |
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| Game Off on 14:24 - Jan 20 with 2243 views | 442Dale |
| Game Off on 14:19 - Jan 20 by R17ALE |
Crisis is definitely the word sadly. I have seen a couple of pictures of the pitch that were texted to me and my reaction was one of horror. Real horror.
I've not seen the pitch looking so sorry for itself since around 2000 - 01 when we had loads of games postponed and even home ties in the AWS away as our pitch was knackered.
What worries me is whether the situation is self-inflicted.
Based on nothing more than the evidence of my own eyes I think....
Mon 1st Jan. We played Blackpool through awful rain. The pitch I thought held up well and I remarked at the time that in years gone by it would have been postponed or abandoned. I was quite encouraged by the pitch that day - more so than by the result!
Tues 9th Jan. We hosted Lincoln in the Checkatrades, losing a scrappy match. It was noticeable that the pitch was cutting up terribly which helped Lincoln's long ball style, but made us completely impotent using our style. I was surprised there was no after match reference to the state of the pitch following the game, but deep down I knew something had badly gone wrong. A bit like Police Chief Brody knowing there's a great white shark out there, I knew our problems had resurfaced.
As in many instances from the past that didn't work then, and therefore won't work now, we just put tonnes of sand on it. Smothered it in sand. But I suspect this wasn't the first error.
My guess, and it is only a guess, is that we allowed the soaking pitch to freeze post-Blackpool. Most people know that when water freezes it expands destroying anything in its way. Most people know that water drains from a pitch via the sward or root. The longer the root, the better the drainage. The roots help make up what I assume is still known as the structure of the pitch with fibre-sand filling the gap between the roots and the drains.
The post - Blackpool freeze will have damaged the roots, and therefore the drainage once the thaw set in. By the Checkatrades game you could see the top few inches of the pitch had become jelly like in texture and was cutting up, bobbling and was generally fooked.
The sand, I presume was to harden the jelly, but with sand comes that benefit, yet also a negative that drainage will suffer further. The sand will also damage grass cover which erodes the root structure.
I don't know if it possible for the club to get a tractor onto the pitch, but I hope they can and get it verti-drained on Monday. They might also need to invest in sand-slitting the pitch which does little for the surface but helps a lot with draining one.
I wouldn't say the answer is to relay the pitch. Far from it. You wouldn't put a new carpet down on shit floor boards for example. And I hope we can utilise our frost covers more effectively going forwards. |
Relaying as an option purely because having a new carpet on shit floorboards until summer is better that a carpet full of sand and mud on those same floorboards. | |
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| Game Off on 14:25 - Jan 20 with 2238 views | Walboro |
The sooner we move to an new purpose built stadium on kingsway a better modern ground with up to date pitch and facilities we are putting round pegs in square holes on and off the pitch and over a length of time you can only polish a turd for so long yes we will loose the nostalgia but take the hit now before it's too late as we are throwing money away every year. | | | |
| Game Off on 14:26 - Jan 20 with 2233 views | ChaffRAFC |
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| Game Off on 14:28 - Jan 20 with 2218 views | 442Dale |
| Game Off on 14:26 - Jan 20 by ChaffRAFC |
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