| tomorrow can't come quick enough 14:17 - Oct 16 with 2267713 views | batman |
Not for us, but for Bury.
i was credit checking a potential customer and decided to nosey onto
BFC's file and was (or maybe not) supprised to see a new CCJ for circa £22k lodged
only Wednesday this week.
looks like they are in need of a bumper crowd tomorrow to settle some bills |  | | |  |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 16:07 - Jan 17 with 6556 views | TVOS1907 |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 14:43 - Jan 17 by 1mark1 |
Really hoping that Bradford win the cup replay and that there is bad weather and a lower gate as a result. |
What sort of crowd do you think there will be at the replay?
Admittedly, they were playing non-league sides, but Bradford got around 3000 for their replay against Aldershot and around 6000 against Chesham.
Their league attendances are heavily skewed by very cheap season tickets. |  |
| When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf? |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 16:44 - Jan 17 with 6461 views | 1mark1 |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 16:07 - Jan 17 by TVOS1907 |
What sort of crowd do you think there will be at the replay?
Admittedly, they were playing non-league sides, but Bradford got around 3000 for their replay against Aldershot and around 6000 against Chesham.
Their league attendances are heavily skewed by very cheap season tickets. |
I have no idea, but obviously you have a better idea than me. |  |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:17 - Jan 17 with 6379 views | TVOS1907 |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 16:44 - Jan 17 by 1mark1 |
I have no idea, but obviously you have a better idea than me. |
I'd be surprised if the crowd reached five figures. | |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:20 - Jan 17 with 6364 views | SuddenLad |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:17 - Jan 17 by TVOS1907 |
I'd be surprised if the crowd reached five figures. |
Hang on TVOS, this is Bratfud we're talking about here. Normal rules don't (usually) apply. |  |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:23 - Jan 17 with 6351 views | TVOS1907 |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:20 - Jan 17 by SuddenLad |
Hang on TVOS, this is Bratfud we're talking about here. Normal rules don't (usually) apply. |
That's a good point, tbf. | |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:27 - Jan 17 with 6390 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 16:01 - Jan 17 by 1mark1 |
Is that imposition of direct debit/standing orders AND penalties for late payments? How much are the penalties imposed? |
10p in the Pound. | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:31 - Jan 17 with 6373 views | 1mark1 |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:17 - Jan 17 by TVOS1907 |
I'd be surprised if the crowd reached five figures. |
Hardly an attractive fixture, to entice extra people, so I will go for 6500. Fifteen quid reasonable price to get in. | |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:39 - Jan 17 with 6353 views | 1mark1 |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:27 - Jan 17 by Yorkshire_Dale |
10p in the Pound. |
So based on 156,000 owed that's an additional £15,600.
Wonder what the total monthly wage bill is for them. | |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:44 - Jan 17 with 6325 views | TVOS1907 |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:31 - Jan 17 by 1mark1 |
Hardly an attractive fixture, to entice extra people, so I will go for 6500. Fifteen quid reasonable price to get in. |
I was thinking more in the region of 6,501. | |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 18:01 - Jan 17 with 6286 views | macro |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 17:31 - Jan 17 by 1mark1 |
Hardly an attractive fixture, to entice extra people, so I will go for 6500. Fifteen quid reasonable price to get in. |
Looking around other FA cup replays are just £10 on Tuesday. |  | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 18:03 - Jan 17 with 6282 views | 1mark1 |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 18:01 - Jan 17 by macro |
Looking around other FA cup replays are just £10 on Tuesday. |
More like a good price. Fiver to watch them two, would be enough. | |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 08:23 - Jan 18 with 6103 views | aleanddale |
Oldham pissed off with the latest winding up petition.
One wag saying he will piss in a bury bucket if he sees one!
More Latics questioning the huge debts being racked up as relative lg1 safety has been bought by these loans whilst Oldham struggle in a relegation dog fight.
Could be tasty at BP on Saturday. | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 08:31 - Jan 18 with 6082 views | mingthemerciless |
A little rumour bird told me Bury were issued with a winding up order yesterday. Seems strange to me, do they do this sort of stuff on Sunday's ? | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 08:53 - Jan 18 with 6057 views | aleanddale |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 08:31 - Jan 18 by mingthemerciless |
A little rumour bird told me Bury were issued with a winding up order yesterday. Seems strange to me, do they do this sort of stuff on Sunday's ? |
It was Friday.
#moredebt
They need more car parking spaces to sell. | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 09:14 - Jan 18 with 6032 views | dingdangblue |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 15:16 - Jan 17 by 442Dale |
More details:
“@MMckenzie93: I have had assurances from #buryfc that the December tax bill of £156,000 has now been paid. Â Panic averted? I hope so.” |
Winding up petition Nov 16 for tax bill of £142,000
Winding up petition for Dec tax bill of £156,000
Is that a normal amount of tax for a lge 1 club over the space of a couple of months? Seems an awful lot? |  |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 09:32 - Jan 18 with 6006 views | batman |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 09:14 - Jan 18 by dingdangblue |
Winding up petition Nov 16 for tax bill of £142,000
Winding up petition for Dec tax bill of £156,000
Is that a normal amount of tax for a lge 1 club over the space of a couple of months? Seems an awful lot? |
Very very rough rule of thumb.
assuming most of the plying staff are on the highest rate of tax (40%)
plus NI (10%) then liability =50%. most players possibly will be, office staff
probably not.
so if you worked on the an average of 40% then it equates out to an annual wage bill
of pushing £4 million.
I personally don't see it being that high, BUT | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 09:55 - Jan 18 with 5984 views | dingdangblue |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 09:32 - Jan 18 by batman |
Very very rough rule of thumb.
assuming most of the plying staff are on the highest rate of tax (40%)
plus NI (10%) then liability =50%. most players possibly will be, office staff
probably not.
so if you worked on the an average of 40% then it equates out to an annual wage bill
of pushing £4 million.
I personally don't see it being that high, BUT |
One of them reckons the amounts include VAT bills also. | |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 10:14 - Jan 18 with 5961 views | robbowood |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 09:55 - Jan 18 by dingdangblue |
One of them reckons the amounts include VAT bills also. |
paye/ni is paid monthly
VAT is paid quarterly | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 10:39 - Jan 18 with 5908 views | SuddenLad |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 09:32 - Jan 18 by batman |
Very very rough rule of thumb.
assuming most of the plying staff are on the highest rate of tax (40%)
plus NI (10%) then liability =50%. most players possibly will be, office staff
probably not.
so if you worked on the an average of 40% then it equates out to an annual wage bill
of pushing £4 million.
I personally don't see it being that high, BUT |
As seen through the eyes of a Bury fan:
"£156k per month PAYE would need an annual wage bill of approx £8,000,000.
£156k for 1 quarters VAT would need annual Turnover in excess of £5,000,000
We know it isn't Corporation Tax, no profits.
Sounds to me like an accumulation of VAT and PAYE but certainly more than 1 payment of each"
It's still a frightening scenario, whichever way you view it. | |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 11:04 - Jan 18 with 5864 views | robbowood |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 10:39 - Jan 18 by SuddenLad |
As seen through the eyes of a Bury fan:
"£156k per month PAYE would need an annual wage bill of approx £8,000,000.
£156k for 1 quarters VAT would need annual Turnover in excess of £5,000,000
We know it isn't Corporation Tax, no profits.
Sounds to me like an accumulation of VAT and PAYE but certainly more than 1 payment of each"
It's still a frightening scenario, whichever way you view it. |
A very sensible post on the Bury forum
I've stayed quite on the financial debate so far, mainly due to my lack of knowledge on how corporate businesses and football clubs are run, but this is getting seriously worrying now. Mr Day & Mr Thomas have to answer some serious questions which I would hope are going to be put to them by FB.
Bury FC has been part of my life since I was 10 years old, over thirty years now, and it's now also a part of my sons life. Despite the frustrations on the pitch over the years, I don't want that to change. If the board are genuinely putting the long term stability of the club at risk, please come out and tell us, so that we as supporters can at least prepare for the worst. No more deceit, no more cloak and dagger, let's work together to try to solve what's going on. FB have to be at the forefront of this, and I'm sure they will be.
One thing I don't understand is, what are Day & Co set to gain out of running the club like this? Taking us millions into debt won't do much for their future business aspirations, the ground isn't the sellable asset most thought it was. So what are they set to gain?
Come on Stewie, it really is time for answers now. The fans will be around a lot longer than you will, we are the lifeblood of the club, always have been, always will be. It's time to realise it shouldn't be 'us and them' anymore. | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 11:27 - Jan 18 with 5825 views | BigKindo |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 09:32 - Jan 18 by batman |
Very very rough rule of thumb.
assuming most of the plying staff are on the highest rate of tax (40%)
plus NI (10%) then liability =50%. most players possibly will be, office staff
probably not.
so if you worked on the an average of 40% then it equates out to an annual wage bill
of pushing £4 million.
I personally don't see it being that high, BUT |
Don't forget the employers N.I. contributions. On earnings of £ 40040/annum i.e.
£ 770/week the liability is 13.8% |  | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 11:54 - Jan 18 with 5754 views | Buryyyy |
Here's an idea Rochdale fans, why not focus on your own club instead of obsessing over ours. Last two home games postponed for you lot and on crowds of 2,200 cash flow will be an issue, Hendersons wages won't come cheap.
And before anyone says "obsessed yet posting on a Rochdale messageboard", it's pretty much just Bury's other messageboard! I bet you get more Bury fans reading this site than Rochdale! |  | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 12:20 - Jan 18 with 5690 views | D_BFC |
Postponements aren't good for any club at this level but you can bet Rochdale have budgeted for this scenario.
You can also bet Henderson is paid less (much less in some cases) than Pope, Clarke, Lowe, Mayor, Nardiello etc etc | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 12:21 - Jan 18 with 5686 views | rod_leach |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 11:54 - Jan 18 by Buryyyy |
Here's an idea Rochdale fans, why not focus on your own club instead of obsessing over ours. Last two home games postponed for you lot and on crowds of 2,200 cash flow will be an issue, Hendersons wages won't come cheap.
And before anyone says "obsessed yet posting on a Rochdale messageboard", it's pretty much just Bury's other messageboard! I bet you get more Bury fans reading this site than Rochdale! |
Not obsessing. There's not much happening at our place at the mo and watching Bury going bust is a good read. |  | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 12:23 - Jan 18 with 5677 views | SuddenLad |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 11:54 - Jan 18 by Buryyyy |
Here's an idea Rochdale fans, why not focus on your own club instead of obsessing over ours. Last two home games postponed for you lot and on crowds of 2,200 cash flow will be an issue, Hendersons wages won't come cheap.
And before anyone says "obsessed yet posting on a Rochdale messageboard", it's pretty much just Bury's other messageboard! I bet you get more Bury fans reading this site than Rochdale! |
We're doing our best to point out to you Blind B**tards, what you consistently fail to see, or which you choose to blithely ignore.
You are heading for oblivion. Wake up, ask the questions you should be asking and don't be put off by bulls**t and bullying responses.
Our finances aren't your concern. They are fine, thanks. You should be worried about your own. | |
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