| The well done David Cameron thread 10:10 - May 8 with 8415 views | dgt73 |
Thank fcuk labour didn't get in....... 
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 12:54 - May 10 with 982 views | Borojack |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 12:45 - May 10 by shandyjack |
so she just closed them down for the fun of it? |
The police did pretty well out of the miners strike.
Saw one get laid out in a pub a few years after for bragging about it.
Karma I think they call it |  |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 12:57 - May 10 with 972 views | dgt73 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 12:35 - May 10 by trampie |
A coal mine is a finite resource, they get worked out, they don't last forever, there is working a mine out and then there is closing a mine before its worked out. |
If coal is such a profitable business, why don't the they start mining the largest stock of coal reserves in the world, as you said there is in south Wales. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 12:58 - May 10 with 956 views | trampie |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 12:45 - May 10 by shandyjack |
so she just closed them down for the fun of it? |
She wanted to break the might of the unions who were a thorn in her side the NUM was seen as the strongest union and if she could crush them then she would be able to implement policies affecting the workplace without much resistance from workers and that is what happened. [Post edited 10 May 2015 12:59]
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 13:02 - May 10 with 938 views | trampie |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 12:57 - May 10 by dgt73 |
If coal is such a profitable business, why don't the they start mining the largest stock of coal reserves in the world, as you said there is in south Wales. |
I never said that. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 13:30 - May 10 with 916 views | NeiltheTaylor |
Has someone been handing out the rinky dink guide to global capital or something? |  |
| Joe_bradshaw -I thought the cryochamber was the new name for Cardiff's stadium.
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 13:31 - May 10 with 915 views | dgt73 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 13:02 - May 10 by trampie |
I never said that. |
Sorry. Not the world. You said Western Europe. My question still stands. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 13:34 - May 10 with 899 views | trampie |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 13:31 - May 10 by dgt73 |
Sorry. Not the world. You said Western Europe. My question still stands. |
Anthracite in Western Europe. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 14:15 - May 10 with 868 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 12:35 - May 10 by trampie |
A coal mine is a finite resource, they get worked out, they don't last forever, there is working a mine out and then there is closing a mine before its worked out. |
That's not quite right Trampie.
No mine gets worked out in that the coal stops - as mining progresses, new seams which are opened up get gradually more expensive to mine, until it becomes uneconomical. Even within a single seam, it gets harder and therefore more expensive to develop a new face.
I completely agree however, that a lot of mines which had not reached that point ended up being shut in the 80s. The fault wasn't as straightforward though as 'the Tories' shut them. The fault over what happened lay on the side of the Tories but also of the NUM. If you talk to miners today, they hate Scargill with the same passion as Thatcher, since they realise in hindsight, that he told them a bunch of crap which led to far, far more mines being closed than was ever the intention. It started as a political decision to reduce subsidy of mining and ended up as a face off between two people that would not stand down.
A terrible, terrible shame.
By the way - dgt - Britain currently produces only about 5% of the coal consumed in the UK - the rest is imported. You are right that the demand is very low compared to the past, but it still exists. The problem now is that the remaining British deep mines produce pretty expensive coal compared to the worldwide coal price which has been slashed due to shale gas in the US causing US mines to massively reduce the price of their coal. | | | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 14:38 - May 10 with 844 views | trampie |
Scargill was English and I disliked him with a passion just like Thatcher another English leader who I disliked with a passion, trade unions are traitors to the people, Tories have barely tried to hide their hideous attitude towards the working class people of Wales.
Wales needs to be lead by their own people who are more likely to have the interests of Welsh people at heart than outsiders who often seem compromised. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 14:52 - May 10 with 833 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 14:38 - May 10 by trampie |
Scargill was English and I disliked him with a passion just like Thatcher another English leader who I disliked with a passion, trade unions are traitors to the people, Tories have barely tried to hide their hideous attitude towards the working class people of Wales.
Wales needs to be lead by their own people who are more likely to have the interests of Welsh people at heart than outsiders who often seem compromised. |
like the Kinnocks you mean :-) | | | |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 14:58 - May 10 with 825 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 14:52 - May 10 by londonlisa2001 |
like the Kinnocks you mean :-) |
Or Michael Heseltine. Or Michael Howard (not the rubbish left back one). Kenneth Baker. Alun Michael. John Prescott. |  |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:09 - May 10 with 807 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 14:58 - May 10 by exiledclaseboy |
Or Michael Heseltine. Or Michael Howard (not the rubbish left back one). Kenneth Baker. Alun Michael. John Prescott. |
but Michael Howard liked the Swans mun - he gave us the trophy in the first whatever it was called final at Wembley...
There was Geoffrey Howe as well of course.
I assume no one is going to claim credit for Peter Hain? | | | |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:12 - May 10 with 804 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:09 - May 10 by londonlisa2001 |
but Michael Howard liked the Swans mun - he gave us the trophy in the first whatever it was called final at Wembley...
There was Geoffrey Howe as well of course.
I assume no one is going to claim credit for Peter Hain? |
He's South African. But I'm not going to hold that against an entire country. I'd forgotten about Geoffrey Howe. The Port Talbot boy who brought down Thatcher. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:20 - May 10 with 786 views | Highjack |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 14:38 - May 10 by trampie |
Scargill was English and I disliked him with a passion just like Thatcher another English leader who I disliked with a passion, trade unions are traitors to the people, Tories have barely tried to hide their hideous attitude towards the working class people of Wales.
Wales needs to be lead by their own people who are more likely to have the interests of Welsh people at heart than outsiders who often seem compromised. |
Wales is just a line on map. Forget the boundaries and stop hating people for being born on the other side of the line as you and you'll live a much happier life. |  |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:22 - May 10 with 781 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:20 - May 10 by Highjack |
Wales is just a line on map. Forget the boundaries and stop hating people for being born on the other side of the line as you and you'll live a much happier life. |
Well put. Nationalism is an ugly stain on society. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:22 - May 10 with 781 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:12 - May 10 by exiledclaseboy |
He's South African. But I'm not going to hold that against an entire country. I'd forgotten about Geoffrey Howe. The Port Talbot boy who brought down Thatcher. |
I was joking on Hain ...
And indeed - an honourable man by all accounts (I'm obviously back to Howe now, not Hain, although to be fair, his stance on certain social issues is deeply honourable). | | | |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:25 - May 10 with 777 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:22 - May 10 by londonlisa2001 |
I was joking on Hain ...
And indeed - an honourable man by all accounts (I'm obviously back to Howe now, not Hain, although to be fair, his stance on certain social issues is deeply honourable). |
I haven't got as much of an issue with Hain as many seem to. He's a self serving hypocrite of course, but he's a politician, show me one who isn't. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:25 - May 10 with 774 views | trampie |
I don't hate anybody just because of where they are born, but birds of a feather and all that can lead to self interest, ask Lisa about her views of the SNP. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:27 - May 10 with 775 views | Lohengrin |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:22 - May 10 by exiledclaseboy |
Well put. Nationalism is an ugly stain on society. |
Without Nationalists to defend borders there would be no such thing as society, certainly not of the civilized. |  |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:33 - May 10 with 760 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:27 - May 10 by Lohengrin |
Without Nationalists to defend borders there would be no such thing as society, certainly not of the civilized. |
So many cliches rammed into one sentence. I'll just respond with "well you would say that". | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:41 - May 10 with 717 views | Lohengrin |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:33 - May 10 by exiledclaseboy |
So many cliches rammed into one sentence. I'll just respond with "well you would say that". |
A cliche becomes a cliche, oft repeated, because it contains an ineluctable truism, Clase.
My job here is to keep the flame and guide the benighted toward realisation. Long hours, no money but my conscience bids me do it.   | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:46 - May 10 with 703 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:41 - May 10 by Lohengrin |
A cliche becomes a cliche, oft repeated, because it contains an ineluctable truism, Clase.
My job here is to keep the flame and guide the benighted toward realisation. Long hours, no money but my conscience bids me do it. |
I'm happy to overlook your cliches as well as your 19th century tropes given your outstanding use of the word "ineluctable". Made my Sunday afternoon that has. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:47 - May 10 with 701 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:25 - May 10 by trampie |
I don't hate anybody just because of where they are born, but birds of a feather and all that can lead to self interest, ask Lisa about her views of the SNP. |
I dislike them intensely.
Nothing to do with them being Scottish though, not indeed of them being nationalist.
I dislike them because they (a) say one thing and do another, (b) want to have their cake and eat it, (c) think someone else should pay for their cake and (d) show utter contempt for Wales in their continued assertion that the UK is simply Scotland and England.
They act as though they are somehow more equal than Wales - given Wales has 3m people, Scotland has just over 5m and England has 50 odd million, they are wrong. | | | |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:48 - May 10 with 700 views | Lohengrin |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:46 - May 10 by exiledclaseboy |
I'm happy to overlook your cliches as well as your 19th century tropes given your outstanding use of the word "ineluctable". Made my Sunday afternoon that has. |
An expansive vocabulary and a tailored wardrobe. Twin marks of a true gentleman.  | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:52 - May 10 with 691 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 15:48 - May 10 by Lohengrin |
An expansive vocabulary and a tailored wardrobe. Twin marks of a true gentleman. |
I've got one out of the two. My wardrobe leaves a lot to be desired and I don't care one iota. My lack of sartorial class and steadfast refusal to do anything about it unless forced drives the wife to despair at times. She made me spend £80 on Monday for two pairs of trousers for work. I was and remain very disgruntled about it. | |
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