| The well done David Cameron thread 10:10 - May 8 with 8416 views | dgt73 |
Thank fcuk labour didn't get in....... 
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 01:55 - May 9 with 1374 views | Humpty |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 00:13 - May 9 by londonlisa2001 |
Much as I enjoy a bit of old fashioned ranting, it'd be so much more effective if a lot of it wasn't factually incorrect !
Does anyone actually stop and think 'is this right' anymore, or does everyone just nod their heads and yell 'B*STARDS' at the top of their voice? |
There's a hell of a lot of it which is factually correct. And which is why an unexpected landslide for the Tories has left me feeling pretty deflated at the moment.
There you go, the Great British people have spoken and the Tories have won fair and square.
Like you I believe, I'm lucky enough to earn enough to insulate myself from the worst that is to come, so I can't complain too much. It's not me that's going to be f*cked. It's the poor.
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 06:21 - May 9 with 1331 views | Dr_Winston |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 00:13 - May 9 by londonlisa2001 |
Much as I enjoy a bit of old fashioned ranting, it'd be so much more effective if a lot of it wasn't factually incorrect !
Does anyone actually stop and think 'is this right' anymore, or does everyone just nod their heads and yell 'B*STARDS' at the top of their voice? |
Epaul generally doesn't. |  |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 06:26 - May 9 with 1321 views | dgt73 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 23:55 - May 8 by epaul |
Not my words but definately my sentiments
Congratulations Britain!
99% of us are completely f*cked, as is the NHS, the education system and my entire generation.
You've voted for food banks instead of freedom, for the rich instead of the poor and worst of all for profit over people.
You've successfully been conned into thinking that things are better than they were 5 years ago. Despite the soaring number of homeless people, children being raised in poverty, families relying on food banks and the empty shell of what was once an incredible national health service run for the benefit of the public not private sector profit.
You have voted for the party that tricked this nation into bailing the banks out of a crisis that the bankers themselves caused!
You have voted for a party that allowed the wealthiest 1000 people in this country to double their wealth in just 5 years. In the meantime working class people's pay packages have been hit their hardest for 40 years.
You voted for the party that allows the richest 1% to pay on average a real terms tax on their wealth of only 35% percent while the bottom 50% pay an average real terms tax of 45%.
You've voted for the party whose MPs almost all voted "NO" on a law that should have been passed to allow investigations into alleged historic paedophilia on a mass scale to be carried out more thoroughly and honestly. Do you know why? Because some of the alleged persecutors were ex Tory MPs and Conservative party funders!
You've voted for the party who have sided with Rupert Murdoch to create and unfair and at times racist smear campaign against Ed Miliband and his party.
You've voted for more privatisation, austerity and social warfare.
You've voted for a party whose main purpose is to generate wealth for their business owning, bank running, rich, shareholder friends. At the expense of everybody else.
So I say once again Britain, well done. A real standing f*cking ovation for you. |
No-ones being conned into thinking things are better now than five years ago.....because it's a fact. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 06:57 - May 9 with 1311 views | QuakerJack |
I've seen a lot of good friends and good people lose their jobs at the hands of the savage cuts imposed by Dave and Nick over the last five years. My wife has been in review after review and has managed to dodge the bullet but I wonder how much longer she will. She works in social services and has over 100 cases of some of the most vulnerable people in society, recently she had a case who she rarely has to deal with as she ticks along very nicely, however, for whatever reason, perhaps due to lack of contact, my wife had a hunch that all was not well with this woman. She acted on that hunch and worked with other services to engage this person in her home. When they managed to get in to the home this person was in a state and needed medical attention. She was rushed to hospital. I don't know what was wrong with her but doctors said that had they not acted she'd bedeadShe later sent my wife a card thanking her for saving her life.
Had my wife fallen victim to the savage cuts she'd not only be out of work and struggling to help me pay the bills (probably still as there is very high unemployment up here) but that woman would have died.
The Tories have been very successful in making people believe that it wasn't their rich, reckless mates in the banking sector that caused this economic recession/downturn, but honest working people working in the public sector in the poorer parts of the country. I know the public sector has been wasteful but destroying public services by either cutting them or privatising them, whilst fat cat bankers carry on regardless isn't the answer. |  |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 07:10 - May 9 with 1306 views | dgt73 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 06:57 - May 9 by QuakerJack |
I've seen a lot of good friends and good people lose their jobs at the hands of the savage cuts imposed by Dave and Nick over the last five years. My wife has been in review after review and has managed to dodge the bullet but I wonder how much longer she will. She works in social services and has over 100 cases of some of the most vulnerable people in society, recently she had a case who she rarely has to deal with as she ticks along very nicely, however, for whatever reason, perhaps due to lack of contact, my wife had a hunch that all was not well with this woman. She acted on that hunch and worked with other services to engage this person in her home. When they managed to get in to the home this person was in a state and needed medical attention. She was rushed to hospital. I don't know what was wrong with her but doctors said that had they not acted she'd bedeadShe later sent my wife a card thanking her for saving her life.
Had my wife fallen victim to the savage cuts she'd not only be out of work and struggling to help me pay the bills (probably still as there is very high unemployment up here) but that woman would have died.
The Tories have been very successful in making people believe that it wasn't their rich, reckless mates in the banking sector that caused this economic recession/downturn, but honest working people working in the public sector in the poorer parts of the country. I know the public sector has been wasteful but destroying public services by either cutting them or privatising them, whilst fat cat bankers carry on regardless isn't the answer. |
It was under labours watch that the banking crisis happened and NOW record numbers of people in work. [Post edited 9 May 2015 7:20]
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 07:22 - May 9 with 1301 views | QuakerJack |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 07:10 - May 9 by dgt73 |
It was under labours watch that the banking crisis happened and NOW record numbers of people in work. [Post edited 9 May 2015 7:20]
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I'm not a labour voter generally. I did vote for them this election because I live in a marginal Lib-Lab seat and I didn't want that liar Clegg anywhere near government. Had I still lived in Port Talbot there's no way I'd have voted for Kinnock.
However, this constant Tory justification of being forced to slash public services because of big bad new labour and their failure to regulate banks is bull because the banks are continuing to hand out obscene bonuses and avoid taking their share of the punishment whilst the less off in areas highly dependant on public sector jobs now since his mentor Maggie tore up the industry, pay for their failings | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:08 - May 9 with 1269 views | Jack_Meoff |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 07:10 - May 9 by dgt73 |
It was under labours watch that the banking crisis happened and NOW record numbers of people in work. [Post edited 9 May 2015 7:20]
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I'm no Labour fan, but what happened on their watch was a GLOBAL financial crisis. Do you think many Tory MPs voted against the bailout?
And record number in work - are they including those sanctioned and on zero hour contracts? [Post edited 9 May 2015 8:18]
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:12 - May 9 with 1267 views | dgt73 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 07:22 - May 9 by QuakerJack |
I'm not a labour voter generally. I did vote for them this election because I live in a marginal Lib-Lab seat and I didn't want that liar Clegg anywhere near government. Had I still lived in Port Talbot there's no way I'd have voted for Kinnock.
However, this constant Tory justification of being forced to slash public services because of big bad new labour and their failure to regulate banks is bull because the banks are continuing to hand out obscene bonuses and avoid taking their share of the punishment whilst the less off in areas highly dependant on public sector jobs now since his mentor Maggie tore up the industry, pay for their failings |
And would a labour government make things better? Oh by putting taxes up | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:19 - May 9 with 1259 views | dgt73 |
Yes global is correct, but I've noticed recently that this word global is popping up all the time now. Until we can become the masters of our own destiny this sort of thing will happen again.
The banking crisis can happen at any point when the banks limit the cash in circulation, I.e stop lending money and as i said until we become masters of our own destiny, no government, cons or labour can do anything to stop it. [Post edited 9 May 2015 8:24]
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:29 - May 9 with 1247 views | SwaneeRiver |
Aberavon (which for whatever reason Skewen comes under) votes 48% Labour.
TBH how any right thinking person in England or Wales, especially those that saw heavy industry and the mines destroyed by the Tories in the eighties, can vote for Cameron and his bunch of New Age highwaymen is beyond me |  | | |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:34 - May 9 with 1240 views | dgt73 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:29 - May 9 by SwaneeRiver |
Aberavon (which for whatever reason Skewen comes under) votes 48% Labour.
TBH how any right thinking person in England or Wales, especially those that saw heavy industry and the mines destroyed by the Tories in the eighties, can vote for Cameron and his bunch of New Age highwaymen is beyond me |
Oh hang on a minute.... We can't blame labour for the banking crisis, because it was a global problem, yet its the cons fault for the loss of industry in South Wales and nothing to do with global markets.....? | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:35 - May 9 with 1237 views | Jack_Meoff |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:19 - May 9 by dgt73 |
Yes global is correct, but I've noticed recently that this word global is popping up all the time now. Until we can become the masters of our own destiny this sort of thing will happen again.
The banking crisis can happen at any point when the banks limit the cash in circulation, I.e stop lending money and as i said until we become masters of our own destiny, no government, cons or labour can do anything to stop it. [Post edited 9 May 2015 8:24]
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Then surely monetary reform should be at the top of any agenda and anything else is just details? | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:38 - May 9 with 1230 views | dgt73 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:35 - May 9 by Jack_Meoff |
Then surely monetary reform should be at the top of any agenda and anything else is just details? |
How can you reform something you have no control over......and that's the problem we now have with so called "globalisation" [Post edited 9 May 2015 8:40]
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:40 - May 9 with 1223 views | Gowerjack |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:34 - May 9 by dgt73 |
Oh hang on a minute.... We can't blame labour for the banking crisis, because it was a global problem, yet its the cons fault for the loss of industry in South Wales and nothing to do with global markets.....? |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:42 - May 9 with 1216 views | dgt73 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:40 - May 9 by Gowerjack |
Dear me
I cant believe you just said that. |
So if the cons are responsible for the loss of industry in south Wales. Are labour responsible for the banking crisis? | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:50 - May 9 with 1200 views | Jack_Meoff |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:42 - May 9 by dgt73 |
So if the cons are responsible for the loss of industry in south Wales. Are labour responsible for the banking crisis? |
So what external factors were responsible for the Tories getting rid of the UK's industries and replacing them with nothing? | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:54 - May 9 with 1194 views | dgt73 |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:50 - May 9 by Jack_Meoff |
So what external factors were responsible for the Tories getting rid of the UK's industries and replacing them with nothing? |
It certainly wasn't the fault of the cons, that you can buy coal cheaper in places like Russia than from mines in South Wales. This is what happens when you let the free market do what it wants. [Post edited 9 May 2015 8:55]
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 10:19 - May 9 with 1135 views | karnataka |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 08:12 - May 9 by dgt73 |
And would a labour government make things better? Oh by putting taxes up |
There's nothing wrong in principle with putting taxes up provided the taxation system you put in place is generally fair and not punitive to the most vulnerable in our society and the infrastucture on which they depend. It should also not be open to the abuse and evasion that is rife within our system and which this government has little intention of correcting.
If all due taxation was paid in this country by the Tories' pals like the major corporations, Tory party donors and those already obscenely wealthy, the Tories would have the money to adequately fund the NHS provided they want to fund the NHS which it appears they do not. They would also not need to embark on their planned £12b slashing of the welfare budget and we all know precisely who will and will not be affected by that. We've still got the bedroom tax, probably living room tax next then.
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 10:23 - May 9 with 1131 views | GreatBritton |
I wish I could speak Swedish, or Danish, or Dutch. Then I could support the Swans and live in a humane, fair, equitable land where I would not be despised for being poor, or for being rich either |  | | |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 10:38 - May 9 with 1113 views | yescomeon |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 06:26 - May 9 by dgt73 |
No-ones being conned into thinking things are better now than five years ago.....because it's a fact. |
By what measure are things better than 5 years ago? |  |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 10:41 - May 9 with 1105 views | union_jack |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 10:23 - May 9 by GreatBritton |
I wish I could speak Swedish, or Danish, or Dutch. Then I could support the Swans and live in a humane, fair, equitable land where I would not be despised for being poor, or for being rich either |
Maybe we could learn Utopian! |  |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 11:11 - May 9 with 1083 views | yescomeon |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 10:23 - May 9 by GreatBritton |
I wish I could speak Swedish, or Danish, or Dutch. Then I could support the Swans and live in a humane, fair, equitable land where I would not be despised for being poor, or for being rich either |
The Dutch are carrying out their own austerity are they not? There is always Canada and New Zealand which are English speaking and quite progressive. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 11:12 - May 9 with 1082 views | perchrockjack |
And I could write a thesis on how we ve created a shalloew culture in this country wherby some see the State as a nanny for life where nobody takes responsibility, where someone is always to blame.
BANKS? yep , maybe those taking on massive stupid mortgages that they knew they d striggle to pay back should reflect, maybe businesses too being reckless. Down to personal responsibility.
Investment bankers are leeches, BANKS feed off people s greed and stupidity as do credit card companies.
Banks play with our money so don't give them any.
I lived through massive inflation in the 70s and our first mortgage was 18%. I lost my job because of Harold filth Wilson .
Country had massive inflation, strikes where the dead lay rotting, cars that were direst in auto making history and loads of businesses going to the wall so please no more left wing crap about socialist principles. Food banks? Don't get me started but maybe the basics of domestic science weren t a bad thing to know.
Too many obsessed with what schools politicians went to, where they live, who they live with , blah blah blah. As long as they can run the country ok its fine with me.
THE BIGGEST SHAME is that Alan Johnson left politics as he really would have been the man for us all. | |
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| The well done David Cameron thread on 11:31 - May 9 with 1065 views | mitchwales |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 13:11 - May 8 by JBT95 |
A true football fan doesn't vote for the conservative party. It's against our morals. Hillsborough is a good enough reason on its own.
Strong football areas are all red. Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, the north east. Even Swansea predominately and a high percentage of the capital in London. [Post edited 8 May 2015 13:12]
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Absolute rubbish! Being a football fan has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's ability to make an educated and considered decision into their political preference. | | | |
| The well done David Cameron thread on 11:39 - May 9 with 1057 views | perchrockjack |
Hillsborough is a subject that is dragged into many subjects for perverse reasons.
We have plenty who still blame scousers (always playing martyrs)
Shows the so called "working classes" are not and never have been united and reason why electorate as a whole distrust them.
"The workers united will never be defeated"
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