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Cut the sugar 12:49 - Sep 16 with 9691 viewsCatullus

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/action-needed-to-curb-sugar-intake

We all get too much sugar. And i saw recently (though can't find the link) a U.S. survey that reckons salt in our diet isn't the problem we thought, but that sugar is. They claimed that it's actually sugar that is responsible for high blood pressure.
That makes sense in my case. I have never added salt to my food, not even a chip shop tea. But I love my sugar!

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Cut the sugar on 13:48 - Sep 16 with 8515 viewsperchrockjack

Ive done my best to get rid of both and its purely a matter of taste.
Sugar is everywhere. I like orange juice but in carton form its chock full.

SALT, NAH

Hope you understand CAT as a few have been puzzled by my opinion on jihad thread.

Pam fookn Ayres ?How backward are some people. Opportunity Knocks friends.

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Cut the sugar on 13:54 - Sep 16 with 8497 viewsBaker

To any nerds out there with kids, I urge you to sit them down and press play...


May I say? what a smashing blouse you have on!

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Cut the sugar on 16:53 - Sep 16 with 8465 viewsSwanjack10

Cut the sugar on 13:54 - Sep 16 by Baker

To any nerds out there with kids, I urge you to sit them down and press play...



Silver wasnt happy lol,sugar is the silent killer...

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Cut the sugar on 18:47 - Sep 16 with 8443 viewsQuakerJack

I need to cut out cheese, I can't get enough of the stuff.

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Cut the sugar on 19:19 - Sep 16 with 8423 viewslondonlisa2001

Cut the sugar on 13:48 - Sep 16 by perchrockjack

Ive done my best to get rid of both and its purely a matter of taste.
Sugar is everywhere. I like orange juice but in carton form its chock full.

SALT, NAH

Hope you understand CAT as a few have been puzzled by my opinion on jihad thread.

Pam fookn Ayres ?How backward are some people. Opportunity Knocks friends.


If the orange juice in a carton is just orange juice (I mean, it's not Sunny D or similar to which sugar is added) there is exactly the same amount of sugar in orange juice in a carton as orange juice that is freshly squeezed.

The difference is that when it's in a carton you tend to drink more, that juice on its own is worse for you than the whole orange pulped because of the fibre in a whole orange and lack of fibre in just the juice (you'll drink less because it fills you up more) and also, crucially, because you don't get to see the sugar content of freshly squeezed because they have to list it on cartons and not on fresh (about to change by the way).

The problem with the sugar debate is that it will lead to companies adding sweeteners, which won't show up as sugar, but are actually encouraging people to have a 'sweeter tooth' and crave sweet things more.

Sugar added to foods that you don't think about (bread, burgers, processed ready meals etc) is much worse than things like orange juice or fruit - there is a lot of misinformation around. A person working as a nutritionist in the NHS said to me recently ' put it this way, our wards are not full of people that are clinically obese because they've eaten too much fruit'.
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Cut the sugar on 19:21 - Sep 16 with 8421 viewslondonlisa2001

Cut the sugar on 13:54 - Sep 16 by Baker

To any nerds out there with kids, I urge you to sit them down and press play...



the problem with drinks like Coke is that they have no nutritional value as such - no protein, no fibre - they are just flavoured, sugary water - empty sugar if you like.
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Cut the sugar on 19:28 - Sep 16 with 8416 viewsmonmouth

Phew I'm ok then. I don't drink coke, just 'bow...

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Cut the sugar on 19:31 - Sep 16 with 8412 viewslondonlisa2001

Cut the sugar on 19:28 - Sep 16 by monmouth

Phew I'm ok then. I don't drink coke, just 'bow...


ha ha - unfortunately the same applies ;-) At least though a lot of the sugar in that is alcohol so has some beneficial effect !!
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Cut the sugar on 19:43 - Sep 16 with 8403 viewsdickythorpe

Scaremongering yet again. Is red wine, red meat next in line for another "good for you" or 'bad for you" debate?
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Cut the sugar on 21:09 - Sep 16 with 8366 viewsperchrockjack

Think too much is bad.my wife is diabetic and her diet had a lot of fruit in it.sadly yogurt also and that s too much sugar.moderation is the key

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Cut the sugar on 21:16 - Sep 16 with 8364 viewslondonlisa2001

Cut the sugar on 21:09 - Sep 16 by perchrockjack

Think too much is bad.my wife is diabetic and her diet had a lot of fruit in it.sadly yogurt also and that s too much sugar.moderation is the key


For a diabetic all sugar is sugar and each individual will have their own limits, set by their specialists.

For everyone else it depends on what else it is with (since you digest it differently), what type of sugar it is (eg. fructose, sucrose, glucose etc) and so on. You are right that moderation is key, but unfortunately there is a lot of over simplification around.

If someone is a diabetic, also it is the case that sweeteners will provide that 'sweetness' - again for most people, sweeteners are best avoided in any quantity - it's much better to 'train' your taste buds to want less sweetness (it only takes a couple of weeks before most people can easily forgo sugar in tea and coffee for example).
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Cut the sugar on 21:19 - Sep 16 with 8361 viewsperchrockjack

Wife's s is diet controlled but my point she s fit and never ever been overweight at all ,not smoked or drunk much.

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Cut the sugar on 21:23 - Sep 16 with 8359 viewslondonlisa2001

Cut the sugar on 21:19 - Sep 16 by perchrockjack

Wife's s is diet controlled but my point she s fit and never ever been overweight at all ,not smoked or drunk much.


does she have type 1?
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Cut the sugar on 21:25 - Sep 16 with 8358 viewsperchrockjack

No Lisa type 2 but she has has far greater problem at the moment so it's funny how what seemed important vanishes right into the air

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Cut the sugar on 21:33 - Sep 16 with 8355 viewslondonlisa2001

Cut the sugar on 21:25 - Sep 16 by perchrockjack

No Lisa type 2 but she has has far greater problem at the moment so it's funny how what seemed important vanishes right into the air


I'm sorry to hear that - I hope that she is well again as soon as possible.
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Cut the sugar on 21:40 - Sep 16 with 8345 viewsperchrockjack

Ta Lisa. Long road ahead mate.

Keep posting.

It truly is a welcome relief to the stuff you post

You make us men look plain daft
No question ,you re on your own for impartiality and free thinking..

R

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Cut the sugar on 21:52 - Sep 16 with 8339 viewslondonlisa2001

Cut the sugar on 21:40 - Sep 16 by perchrockjack

Ta Lisa. Long road ahead mate.

Keep posting.

It truly is a welcome relief to the stuff you post

You make us men look plain daft
No question ,you re on your own for impartiality and free thinking..

R


You wouldn't think I was impartial though if you saw me at a game - my mother refuses to sit by me because she doesn't like the language - it is apparently a 'disgrace' for a woman of my age :-)

In all seriousness, however much we love our club, there are far more important things in life and the health of our families is certainly one of them.
Best to you and your wife.
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Cut the sugar on 21:56 - Sep 16 with 8328 viewsEbo

Cut the sugar on 19:19 - Sep 16 by londonlisa2001

If the orange juice in a carton is just orange juice (I mean, it's not Sunny D or similar to which sugar is added) there is exactly the same amount of sugar in orange juice in a carton as orange juice that is freshly squeezed.

The difference is that when it's in a carton you tend to drink more, that juice on its own is worse for you than the whole orange pulped because of the fibre in a whole orange and lack of fibre in just the juice (you'll drink less because it fills you up more) and also, crucially, because you don't get to see the sugar content of freshly squeezed because they have to list it on cartons and not on fresh (about to change by the way).

The problem with the sugar debate is that it will lead to companies adding sweeteners, which won't show up as sugar, but are actually encouraging people to have a 'sweeter tooth' and crave sweet things more.

Sugar added to foods that you don't think about (bread, burgers, processed ready meals etc) is much worse than things like orange juice or fruit - there is a lot of misinformation around. A person working as a nutritionist in the NHS said to me recently ' put it this way, our wards are not full of people that are clinically obese because they've eaten too much fruit'.


I can't eat salt on anything - never put it on my chips, but the one thing I do not drink anymore is coca cola. Truly terrifying the amounts of sugar in it. Try dipping a coin in the stuff and see how clean it becomes - we let kids drink this!

Thank you, goodnight and bollocks
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Cut the sugar on 21:57 - Sep 16 with 8324 viewsperchrockjack

True but you need and outlet.my missus ,although English is a "jack" -as she supports the swans and has dine for 35yrs now.


We were taking our kids swimming when Addison was sacked and we feared that was the end.

Was at Preston to in 81

It's why certain posters get up my nose

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Cut the sugar on 22:00 - Sep 16 with 8316 viewslondonlisa2001

Cut the sugar on 21:57 - Sep 16 by perchrockjack

True but you need and outlet.my missus ,although English is a "jack" -as she supports the swans and has dine for 35yrs now.


We were taking our kids swimming when Addison was sacked and we feared that was the end.

Was at Preston to in 81

It's why certain posters get up my nose


I was at Preston too - only 13 so sat in the stand with my Dad rather than on that bank. Never forget that feeling when Jeremy Charles scored that third goal.

Still got the 'First Division' evening post. Good times. And you indeed need an outlet. And nothing better than the few hours at a game to forget everything else.
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Cut the sugar on 22:04 - Sep 16 with 8313 viewsperchrockjack

All being well my first live game will be Everton.

Not sure who if anyone I'm gonna hook up with yet..

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Cut the sugar on 22:53 - Sep 16 with 8297 viewsLeonisGod

Cut the sugar on 19:43 - Sep 16 by dickythorpe

Scaremongering yet again. Is red wine, red meat next in line for another "good for you" or 'bad for you" debate?


It's hardly scaremongering. Have you seen the size of people these days and the rise in type 2 diabetes strongly linked to increased sugar intake?

Glad this is getting the coverage it deserves (at last). It's extremely hard to avoid eating huge amounts of refined sugar, but if you do you'll feel a lot better for it. The sugar industry is massive though and won't give up without a fight http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/storm-brewing-over-proposal-to-halve-r
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Cut the sugar on 09:34 - Sep 17 with 8218 viewsdickythorpe

Cut the sugar on 22:53 - Sep 16 by LeonisGod

It's hardly scaremongering. Have you seen the size of people these days and the rise in type 2 diabetes strongly linked to increased sugar intake?

Glad this is getting the coverage it deserves (at last). It's extremely hard to avoid eating huge amounts of refined sugar, but if you do you'll feel a lot better for it. The sugar industry is massive though and won't give up without a fight http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/storm-brewing-over-proposal-to-halve-r


It is scaremongering.
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Cut the sugar on 09:47 - Sep 17 with 8212 viewsperchrockjack

When my missus was diagnosed she and I were staggered as she s never been overweight, fit,never eaten a macdonalds in her life, hates all fizzy drinks, doesn't gorge on crap food but still get diagnosed border line type 2.

"Too much fruit" and yogurt were blamed so puzzling.

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Cut the sugar on 12:46 - Sep 17 with 8178 viewsSwanjack10

Cut the sugar on 09:47 - Sep 17 by perchrockjack

When my missus was diagnosed she and I were staggered as she s never been overweight, fit,never eaten a macdonalds in her life, hates all fizzy drinks, doesn't gorge on crap food but still get diagnosed border line type 2.

"Too much fruit" and yogurt were blamed so puzzling.


Genetic ,parents prob had diabetes.

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