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Personally, I'm a none believer. I've never seen, heard, or felt anything to convince me that there is another 'force', 'entity', or state of being other than the reality we live in.
Having said that, I know people who I respect who reckon they have had an unexplained experience after previously being sceptical.
Learning to read clusters is not something your eyes do naturally. It takes constant practice.
Do you believe in life after death? on 13:44 - Aug 5 by Lytham_FY8
Just memory and nurture innit.
Atmospherics,
I don't know anything about those kids. If they said what they said, they may have been telling the truth about what they 'saw'. That does not necessarily mean what they 'envisioned' was a recollection of a previous event, does it? Did they mention anything about being somewhere else thousands and thousands of years ago, way into pre-history? That was my point.
Actually, my point was that we are all just energy. Other people have said the same thing (or similar). We just die and our energy goes back into the ground.
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Do you believe in life after death? on 15:16 - Aug 5 with 1181 views
Do you believe in life after death? on 14:51 - Aug 5 by KingSuddick
Atmospherics,
I don't know anything about those kids. If they said what they said, they may have been telling the truth about what they 'saw'. That does not necessarily mean what they 'envisioned' was a recollection of a previous event, does it? Did they mention anything about being somewhere else thousands and thousands of years ago, way into pre-history? That was my point.
Actually, my point was that we are all just energy. Other people have said the same thing (or similar). We just die and our energy goes back into the ground.
I suspect our (quantum) energy (spirit/soul) moves around forever ...
I had a meeting with a complete stranger who gave me messages from my Dad, Grandad and GrGrandad. I moved to a remote area of the UK in '98. Went into the local town at xmas, into a boozer. As I walked in I saw a lad behind the bar, who was staring at me .... Busy bar, managed to get a seat with mrs ceecyder, sat down and this lad had come over, asked if he could sit with us, pulled up a chair and said he had a message for me..... He talked for a while and asked me if I knew Richard .... I didnt, he sat looking deep in thought and started sweating .... then mentioned Thomas and Les (Grandad and Dad) told me alot of things that he genuinely could not have known.. Then stumbled onto something I didnt know; asked me "did you go to the funeral?" I havent been to a funeral for years I told him... He then started getting agitated and sweating more, mumbled something about how he shouldnt have aske me that ...... apologised and asked me to get in touch if I wanted to. Never seen the lad before that evening, and only had a few aquaintences at that time in the area....nobody knew anything about me or my family.
Richard, I found out later was my Gr Grandad. The funeral happened .... I chose not to go..
Nearly 20 yrs later and it still gives me the creeps....how did he know this stuff?? Sadly, it creeped me out so much, I didnt contact him until a few years later when I saw him at work (he was a painter and decorator). I thanked him for talking to me but didnt ask for anymore messages.......
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Do you believe in life after death? on 15:24 - Aug 5 with 1175 views
Do you believe in life after death? on 15:16 - Aug 5 by ceecyder
I suspect our (quantum) energy (spirit/soul) moves around forever ...
I had a meeting with a complete stranger who gave me messages from my Dad, Grandad and GrGrandad. I moved to a remote area of the UK in '98. Went into the local town at xmas, into a boozer. As I walked in I saw a lad behind the bar, who was staring at me .... Busy bar, managed to get a seat with mrs ceecyder, sat down and this lad had come over, asked if he could sit with us, pulled up a chair and said he had a message for me..... He talked for a while and asked me if I knew Richard .... I didnt, he sat looking deep in thought and started sweating .... then mentioned Thomas and Les (Grandad and Dad) told me alot of things that he genuinely could not have known.. Then stumbled onto something I didnt know; asked me "did you go to the funeral?" I havent been to a funeral for years I told him... He then started getting agitated and sweating more, mumbled something about how he shouldnt have aske me that ...... apologised and asked me to get in touch if I wanted to. Never seen the lad before that evening, and only had a few aquaintences at that time in the area....nobody knew anything about me or my family.
Richard, I found out later was my Gr Grandad. The funeral happened .... I chose not to go..
Nearly 20 yrs later and it still gives me the creeps....how did he know this stuff?? Sadly, it creeped me out so much, I didnt contact him until a few years later when I saw him at work (he was a painter and decorator). I thanked him for talking to me but didnt ask for anymore messages.......
The cynic in me says he was testing his psychic (information gathering) skills. I bet he didnt tell you what your grandads & dads surnames were? They never do.
There was a documentary to find the `best psychic' on tv quite recently. They put them through all sorts of tests over several weeks and they all failed miserably.
They placed them all in the same antiquated buildings, and none of them could establish the history or the people who inhabited the place.
Instead of finding the best psychic it was more like finding the biggest con man.
Derren Brown also did a very good documentary about this in disguise. The participants were amazed how he coukd know so much information about their deceased relatives and were convinced he was a top pyschic. Sadly, he had to tell them it was all a fake and it was, the signals they were giving and mind reading skills , that revealed to him the relevant information.
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Do you believe in life after death? on 15:53 - Aug 5 with 1161 views
Do you believe in life after death? on 15:34 - Aug 5 by OldSkool
The cynic in me says he was testing his psychic (information gathering) skills. I bet he didnt tell you what your grandads & dads surnames were? They never do.
There was a documentary to find the `best psychic' on tv quite recently. They put them through all sorts of tests over several weeks and they all failed miserably.
They placed them all in the same antiquated buildings, and none of them could establish the history or the people who inhabited the place.
Instead of finding the best psychic it was more like finding the biggest con man.
Derren Brown also did a very good documentary about this in disguise. The participants were amazed how he coukd know so much information about their deceased relatives and were convinced he was a top pyschic. Sadly, he had to tell them it was all a fake and it was, the signals they were giving and mind reading skills , that revealed to him the relevant information.
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OldSkool
I agree with most of your post, I was quite cynical but with an open mind, prior to this experience. I'm pretty sure I watched Derren Browns programme, and many others exposing fakes. There are many con(wo)men out there. You are right, he didnt mention my family name. The personal things he did mention though were not available in my eyes nor on my face. Experiences I had undergone, in private life and military life ... sorry, but no way could he have the skills to get that info. If he does/did then he is wasting his life painting walls. In later years I asked freinds what they knew about him ..... nobody realy knew him, I just got back generalisms .... "oh, he's a quiet lad", "aye, hes a bit of a strange one" etc.
Personally I would be amazed to find out he used information gathering skills .....
Still creeps me out...
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Do you believe in life after death? on 16:03 - Aug 5 with 1155 views
Do you believe in life after death? on 13:38 - Aug 5 by UnsworthTangerine
Inate to who though?
If its in your DNA is could come from ANYBODY in your past family.
I've read lots on the subject in the past, one of the most interesting books was "The Bloxham Tapes". I'm a sceptic, would love to be proved wrong. As Unsworth mentions, a lot of people are leaning towards regressed memories as DNA memory, in the same way a baby bird can be raised without any contact with its' own species, but when released it knows exactly where to migrate to.
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