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Mark Warburton interview on 12:29 - Nov 14 by joe90
He really struggled with injuries, which was unfortunate as I think we could have done better. I do recall the football being really pedestrian at times. As with a lot of people who have come through the doors at QPR in recent times, he talks a good game.
The frustration was in the first season the football could be terrific. And he was very forward focused, often at the expense of the defence.
By the end we'd gone into this very staid, backwards and sideways, boring nonsense. Blackburn away I remember being a real ordeal. He just seemed to go away from those ideals that he brought in the first place.
I'm sure he'd say he had Eze and Bright in that first season, and in the third one he ended up having to replace Chris Willock with George Thomas, but still.
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Mark Warburton interview on 13:38 - Nov 14 with 3512 views
Mark Warburton interview on 12:53 - Nov 14 by Northernr
The frustration was in the first season the football could be terrific. And he was very forward focused, often at the expense of the defence.
By the end we'd gone into this very staid, backwards and sideways, boring nonsense. Blackburn away I remember being a real ordeal. He just seemed to go away from those ideals that he brought in the first place.
I'm sure he'd say he had Eze and Bright in that first season, and in the third one he ended up having to replace Chris Willock with George Thomas, but still.
We were never really same after the game at Peterborough when I think it was Dickie lost it on the halfway line and they scored the winner in the last minute
From then on the defenders and midfield were reluctant to bring the ball out and nobody willing to take a risk .
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Mark Warburton interview on 14:11 - Nov 14 with 3410 views
Mark Warburton interview on 13:38 - Nov 14 by Rangersw12
We were never really same after the game at Peterborough when I think it was Dickie lost it on the halfway line and they scored the winner in the last minute
From then on the defenders and midfield were reluctant to bring the ball out and nobody willing to take a risk .
Absolutely right. Dickie had done the same thing at Bournemouth just before that as well and basically cratered from there when he'd previously looked like the best defender in the league for a little hot streak.
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Mark Warburton interview on 14:22 - Nov 14 with 3335 views
I like him but he clearly needs to control everything for it to work. The 2 years experience were before he was a manager, so we don't know if he'd want that role. If he did, I'd imagine he'd want to appoint his own manager (e.g. Eustace.)
Its difficult at the moment, but we just need Nourry out before worrying about who's next.
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Mark Warburton interview on 15:00 - Nov 14 with 3176 views
Mark Warburton interview on 14:22 - Nov 14 by LongRanger
I like him but he clearly needs to control everything for it to work. The 2 years experience were before he was a manager, so we don't know if he'd want that role. If he did, I'd imagine he'd want to appoint his own manager (e.g. Eustace.)
Its difficult at the moment, but we just need Nourry out before worrying about who's next.
Kicking Nourry out before even thinking of who would replace him would be poor planning even by our owners’ standards……
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Mark Warburton interview on 15:54 - Nov 14 with 2999 views
A lot of time for MW . Was fully against him being let go at the time and I think that has been mostly justified.
I just think we should stop yearning for old soldiers to come in and get us through no man’s land. Dont get me wrong I’d prefer MW over Nourry in the DoF role any day of the week but the choice isn’t and won’t be Nourry or MW or nothing. It isn’t even a choice at the moment . MW clearly wants to manage and coach still and I think he likes the cut of his own jib a lot at times and as someone else suggested it felt like ‘timing’ was a bit of factor for this interview too just let people know he’s ‘around’.
Thst might be harsh and I don’t mean to be . In general I’m a big fan although it doesn’t sound it 🤣
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Mark Warburton interview on 16:07 - Nov 14 with 2932 views
Mark Warburton interview on 15:00 - Nov 14 by Ned_Kennedys
Kicking Nourry out before even thinking of who would replace him would be poor planning even by our owners’ standards……
Bigger question I suggest: who will guide us in the January TW?
To be fair, he and his algorithm had a good TW last January. However, he and the algorithm have, thus far, had a total shocker during the summer and if there is some cash/wriggle room in the finances, do we trust his suggestions?
We've got a big TW coming up fast and someone has to make a big call PDQ as to whether we trust Kim Jung or not in January. Because if we're all here apoplectic with rage after another mindless TW, it will be more than Christian we'll be throwing to the lions when we go to Millwall on 1 February, it'll be the whole lot of them!
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Bigger question I suggest: who will guide us in the January TW?
To be fair, he and his algorithm had a good TW last January. However, he and the algorithm have, thus far, had a total shocker during the summer and if there is some cash/wriggle room in the finances, do we trust his suggestions?
We've got a big TW coming up fast and someone has to make a big call PDQ as to whether we trust Kim Jung or not in January. Because if we're all here apoplectic with rage after another mindless TW, it will be more than Christian we'll be throwing to the lions when we go to Millwall on 1 February, it'll be the whole lot of them!
We do need to be a bit careful about just how brilliant last January was. Lassel made this point as well...
Andersen was a great signing, but Marti had worked with him before. And he's fallen off a cliff.
Joe Hodge, one goal, couldn't fit him in the team, now plays League One.
Isaac Hayden - very good, but almost certainly our annual freebie from Newcastle by way of Jamie Reuben doing Amit a favour.
Michy Frey - 5 minute hot streak at the start of this season but mostly unfit and injured before and since.
Got rid of Dozzell - perfect, no notes.
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Mark Warburton interview on 16:25 - Nov 14 with 2840 views
Mark Warburton interview on 15:00 - Nov 14 by Ned_Kennedys
Kicking Nourry out before even thinking of who would replace him would be poor planning even by our owners’ standards……
I'm not saying the owners shouldn't be thinking about it, I'm saying we shouldn't worry about it, but if he's as bad as I believe he is, Hoos can step back in the short term whilst they recruit, you don't have to identify a replacement before getting rid. In any business, a vacancy at that level is better than a bad hire.
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Mark Warburton interview on 16:59 - Nov 14 with 2668 views
Mark Warburton interview on 16:25 - Nov 14 by LongRanger
I'm not saying the owners shouldn't be thinking about it, I'm saying we shouldn't worry about it, but if he's as bad as I believe he is, Hoos can step back in the short term whilst they recruit, you don't have to identify a replacement before getting rid. In any business, a vacancy at that level is better than a bad hire.
I really liked Mark Warburton as our manager, it has all gone downhill since he and Eustace left. For all the politics at play moving Eustace to manager and Warburton to DoF may have been far too extreme for QPR and our further descent into mediocrity, far too many agendas at play at Loftus Road no doubt.
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Mark Warburton interview on 23:03 - Nov 14 with 2151 views
Was hugely in favour of him getting the gig, shouted for him before they appointed ODH actually Then I lost it with him. The political posturing and dogma cost us on the pitch and the first team results are absolutely the priority in any club. Heard a few things which seemed right at the time and have been confirmed as true which really turned me against him. Self centred. (I ranted at him on these ere pages but I was in a bit of a personal spot at that time so probably went a bit OTT)
The big attraction at the start for me was his business noise and acumen with him shouting loud about budget and getting a tune out of things. His mantra about first contact and all that became a pisstake but I actually agree with him on that and loads of other football related stuff.
Would I have welcome him back? Mmmmmmmmm… at the moment I’d probably welcome Iddi Amin into the fold if he’d get us a home win.
Have we still got his icebox?!?!
Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal
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Mark Warburton interview on 23:30 - Nov 14 with 2099 views
Mark Warburton interview on 23:03 - Nov 14 by Lblock
I went total 180 on Warbs Warburton
Was hugely in favour of him getting the gig, shouted for him before they appointed ODH actually Then I lost it with him. The political posturing and dogma cost us on the pitch and the first team results are absolutely the priority in any club. Heard a few things which seemed right at the time and have been confirmed as true which really turned me against him. Self centred. (I ranted at him on these ere pages but I was in a bit of a personal spot at that time so probably went a bit OTT)
The big attraction at the start for me was his business noise and acumen with him shouting loud about budget and getting a tune out of things. His mantra about first contact and all that became a pisstake but I actually agree with him on that and loads of other football related stuff.
Would I have welcome him back? Mmmmmmmmm… at the moment I’d probably welcome Iddi Amin into the fold if he’d get us a home win.
Have we still got his icebox?!?!
It's a pretty 'story of our times' right?
I've said repeatedly on here, if you keep changing your manager and things don't get any better then your manager isn't your problem. To look at your posts at the time, and I respect you for admitting you were going through stuff and took it out on this because I do that all the time, Warburton was Paul Hart levels of useless.
To read Stainrod on here, Lee Hoos is basically the devil. Worst CEO we've ever had.
Well, Warburton gone. We got worse. Hoos gone, the bloke that's replaced him is not doing well.
Maybe we're about to sack Cifuentes. The chicken children on Twitter will be delighted.
I'm telling you now, as I did then, you're focussing on the wrong person, it won't get better medium and long term for replacing them (short term, maybe), and you'll be back on here screaming blue murder about whoever else it is 18 months from now.
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Mark Warburton interview on 00:42 - Nov 15 with 2014 views
Mark Warburton interview on 23:30 - Nov 14 by Northernr
It's a pretty 'story of our times' right?
I've said repeatedly on here, if you keep changing your manager and things don't get any better then your manager isn't your problem. To look at your posts at the time, and I respect you for admitting you were going through stuff and took it out on this because I do that all the time, Warburton was Paul Hart levels of useless.
To read Stainrod on here, Lee Hoos is basically the devil. Worst CEO we've ever had.
Well, Warburton gone. We got worse. Hoos gone, the bloke that's replaced him is not doing well.
Maybe we're about to sack Cifuentes. The chicken children on Twitter will be delighted.
I'm telling you now, as I did then, you're focussing on the wrong person, it won't get better medium and long term for replacing them (short term, maybe), and you'll be back on here screaming blue murder about whoever else it is 18 months from now.
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I won't be 'screaming blue murder' about anyone who can do a half-decent job for us in any position right now. I'm just sick, as we all are, of the endless stream of incomptence.
Mark Warburton interview on 23:30 - Nov 14 by Northernr
It's a pretty 'story of our times' right?
I've said repeatedly on here, if you keep changing your manager and things don't get any better then your manager isn't your problem. To look at your posts at the time, and I respect you for admitting you were going through stuff and took it out on this because I do that all the time, Warburton was Paul Hart levels of useless.
To read Stainrod on here, Lee Hoos is basically the devil. Worst CEO we've ever had.
Well, Warburton gone. We got worse. Hoos gone, the bloke that's replaced him is not doing well.
Maybe we're about to sack Cifuentes. The chicken children on Twitter will be delighted.
I'm telling you now, as I did then, you're focussing on the wrong person, it won't get better medium and long term for replacing them (short term, maybe), and you'll be back on here screaming blue murder about whoever else it is 18 months from now.
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This is why I'm very QPR'd, more so than any other time in my supporting history. I'm just over it. It's not fundamentally the manager that's the issue here and hasn't been for many years.
It's the owners and the overall culture installed from the top down, it's so rotten and until that changes this will continue to happen.
New blood please! 😭🤮
How about we go against the grain and keep Marti and CN for years until they get it right!
Conference football maybe but Jesus I'm over this regurgitated cyclical 1-2 yearly horsesh$t
Mark Warburton interview on 23:30 - Nov 14 by Northernr
It's a pretty 'story of our times' right?
I've said repeatedly on here, if you keep changing your manager and things don't get any better then your manager isn't your problem. To look at your posts at the time, and I respect you for admitting you were going through stuff and took it out on this because I do that all the time, Warburton was Paul Hart levels of useless.
To read Stainrod on here, Lee Hoos is basically the devil. Worst CEO we've ever had.
Well, Warburton gone. We got worse. Hoos gone, the bloke that's replaced him is not doing well.
Maybe we're about to sack Cifuentes. The chicken children on Twitter will be delighted.
I'm telling you now, as I did then, you're focussing on the wrong person, it won't get better medium and long term for replacing them (short term, maybe), and you'll be back on here screaming blue murder about whoever else it is 18 months from now.
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The only consistent in any decision over the past 5 years (since we employed Warburton) have been the owners.
But, if they can't sell us as no one wants to buy us, then we are basically in a slow tailspin.
Just out of interest, and not wanting to put you on the spot, but what do you think would now be the best outcome for the mid/longterm future of the club?
I'm in owners selling up (in an ideal world) camp.
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Mark Warburton interview on 06:43 - Nov 15 with 1882 views
Mark Warburton interview on 23:30 - Nov 14 by Northernr
It's a pretty 'story of our times' right?
I've said repeatedly on here, if you keep changing your manager and things don't get any better then your manager isn't your problem. To look at your posts at the time, and I respect you for admitting you were going through stuff and took it out on this because I do that all the time, Warburton was Paul Hart levels of useless.
To read Stainrod on here, Lee Hoos is basically the devil. Worst CEO we've ever had.
Well, Warburton gone. We got worse. Hoos gone, the bloke that's replaced him is not doing well.
Maybe we're about to sack Cifuentes. The chicken children on Twitter will be delighted.
I'm telling you now, as I did then, you're focussing on the wrong person, it won't get better medium and long term for replacing them (short term, maybe), and you'll be back on here screaming blue murder about whoever else it is 18 months from now.
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I think you’ll find I focused on the right person/people for well over a decade plus!
Called out Paladini from Day One Tango and Dwarf was suspicious of from the get go As for The Bungle Brothers I remain steadfast that they, especially Pony Tony, are the reason we’re on a slow highway to hell.
Looking back I do find my Jekyl and Hyde views on Warburton very odd
I’m sort of with Silky here….. maybe he’s making his way up to the balcony? (He’ll get that reference!!!!)
Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal
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Mark Warburton interview on 07:07 - Nov 15 with 1864 views
We're all agreed that new owners, preferably more interested and more savvy then the lot we've had since 2011, are required. However, unless the comms stratergy is so good at keeping the impending arrival of savious quiet, then there's no one.
Richard Reilly came in, not sure what his plan was, but I did hear he and his son were raking through everything, which I took to mean they were doing a thorough due diligence. Then a year ago it was reported we'd engaged a US based mob (Montminy & Co) to bring in more finance (and we do seem to have lots more 'corporate partners').
However, for my money, this was about really looking to sell. But given all that we know, suspect, and don't know, we're not an attractive proposition. Seriously, who'd buy it?
Alas, as I've said more than once, I fear it dies before it can be reborn. As others have said: the incompetence looks more a case of managed decline and in the absence of a miracle walking in the door, we're screwed. Not just on the money issue, but really screwed by the fact we've got no one running the show with the business and football smarts. And that's the real problem we've been facing since August 2011. As a club, QPR has been run into the ground by incompetence and we don't have anywhere near enough nous to plan and manage our way out of it like other clubs have.
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Mark Warburton interview on 06:43 - Nov 15 by Lblock
I think you’ll find I focused on the right person/people for well over a decade plus!
Called out Paladini from Day One Tango and Dwarf was suspicious of from the get go As for The Bungle Brothers I remain steadfast that they, especially Pony Tony, are the reason we’re on a slow highway to hell.
Looking back I do find my Jekyl and Hyde views on Warburton very odd
I’m sort of with Silky here….. maybe he’s making his way up to the balcony? (He’ll get that reference!!!!)
I'll take a VIP pass up there now mate! As long as we're together! Just don't let Captain Croydon know! 👀
Very enjoyable interview, thank you & some excellent questions.
I was disappointed when he left, he was & is right about our younger players and I have got a little bit of a recent insight into the academy and tbh it isn't very good, max 4/10. Personally I do not think he left with may enemies here & I would be surprised if he returned here without being offered the top coach/manager position.
In saying that I think that he could be a difficult man to deal with if he didn't get his way.
Overall I think he did a fair(ish) job here, better than most.
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Mark Warburton interview on 18:32 - Nov 15 with 1333 views
Mark Warburton interview on 08:14 - Nov 14 by BrianMcCarthy
We don't know who the call was from, really, and we don't know if the person making the call agreed with it or was just told to make the call. And, let's be honest, others might have a different version altogether.
I loved listening to him, though. The problem with interviews like this is that human nature dictates that they will be biased and one-eyed, but with Warburton the fist might be iron but the glove is oh-so-smooth.
Yep , i am reading between the lines, but there's more lines than a Coote party here , so its quite easy to formulate an educated guess. Who else is going to phone him up about his job being in the balance.? And if others (probably Les) had a different version of events(Les probably under pressure himself) than it still wasn't managed properly. My guess is it got a bit personal between them at the time and their egos clashed. Not good for them and certainly not good for QPR.
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Mark Warburton interview on 22:48 - Nov 15 with 1125 views
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