| Ainsworth 17:14 - Sep 30 with 139295 views | Gloucs_R |
Needs to be a discussion had.....
The squad we've got are not bottom 3.
We're getting tactically outmanoeuvred at home almost every time we play.
It's not a lack of experience in the team anymore. A lack of firepower, possibly, but we should be better than this.
Edit, perhaps I should have said our starting xi are not bottom 3. I agree, the overall squad is poor. [Post edited 30 Sep 2023 17:29]
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| Ainsworth on 19:38 - Oct 21 with 3612 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Ainsworth on 19:26 - Oct 21 by Wegerles_Stairs |
You'd honestly take another six months of this? |
Over hiring an expensive anchor like Bruce or Alladyce? Yes. |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 19:41 - Oct 21 with 3570 views | Jevlar |
Someone at the board needs to put him and us out of our misery.
Love GA as a bloke and a player but he must know the gig (cold blooded hearts aside) is up |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 19:50 - Oct 21 with 3458 views | mart_Goblin |
| Ainsworth on 19:23 - Oct 21 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I’ll put my neck out and say he should stay on.
Don’t mistake that for praise or a signal I think he’s doing a good job. I just think he should stay on until the following questions are answered:
1) Who will replace him?
2) Why is that person coming to QPR?
Question 2) particularly important. Anyone stupid enough or cheap enough to take the job won’t be good enough. There is a set of managers who just take jobs so they can get the release fee after they are sacked (I’m looking at you Steve Bruce).
Sadly, this is the pond we are fishing in.
Personally, barring a miracle, I think we will be relegated. I want Ainsworth in charge of that scenario on the basis of his record of lower league promotions. If we went down with anyone else in charge he’d be the name we’d be calling for.
I hope my logic makes sense! [Post edited 21 Oct 2023 19:25]
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It makes a lot of sense ….but unfortunately we can’t just sit back and accept relegation because he ‘might’ be the right man in a year.
That’s madness
For QPR, right now…it about the ‘here and now’.
To just accept relegation , which is what we are basically doing at this moment is a slight and an insult to every single fan who pays their hard earned money week in and week out and a disgrace to those who played and battled for this shirt and badge.
The club owes it to its fans at least to try to salvage something from this season and if that means bringing in someone else to cast a fresh set of eyes and ideas on this shower of shit then they should do so . Who is a good question but a football club should have a back up plan . I bet they bloody don’t but they should and they should start that this minute .
In principle you make a lot of sense but we have to try !! God they owe us to at least try. |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 19:51 - Oct 21 with 3431 views | paulparker |
What we are seeing are the last semblance of the Tony Fernandes /Tune group catastrophe of running a football club
12 long and not so great years has led us down this path, disasters on and off the pitch have left us with this rotting carcass of a squad who quite frankly wouldn’t finish mid table in the conference
Ainsworth doesn’t deserve this , he must look at these losers and want to punch every single one of them , if we go down so be it but this board need to go and anyone who sticks up for any of them is a total halfwit |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Ainsworth on 20:00 - Oct 21 with 3366 views | BostonR |
| Ainsworth on 19:51 - Oct 21 by paulparker |
What we are seeing are the last semblance of the Tony Fernandes /Tune group catastrophe of running a football club
12 long and not so great years has led us down this path, disasters on and off the pitch have left us with this rotting carcass of a squad who quite frankly wouldn’t finish mid table in the conference
Ainsworth doesn’t deserve this , he must look at these losers and want to punch every single one of them , if we go down so be it but this board need to go and anyone who sticks up for any of them is a total halfwit |
Usual question - who’s buying a club that is losing £2M a month? |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 20:03 - Oct 21 with 3314 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Ainsworth on 20:00 - Oct 21 by BostonR |
Usual question - who’s buying a club that is losing £2M a month? |
See Bury and Scunthorpe for details. There is no Angel investor over the horizon. | | | |
| Ainsworth on 20:03 - Oct 21 with 3299 views | paulparker |
| Ainsworth on 20:00 - Oct 21 by BostonR |
Usual question - who’s buying a club that is losing £2M a month? |
Someone will , haven’t a clue who but QPR is a joke under this lot and has been for years , we are so far behind the rest of the clubs in London it’s not even funny anymore | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Ainsworth on 20:12 - Oct 21 with 3255 views | Hoopsie |
| Ainsworth on 19:23 - Oct 21 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I’ll put my neck out and say he should stay on.
Don’t mistake that for praise or a signal I think he’s doing a good job. I just think he should stay on until the following questions are answered:
1) Who will replace him?
2) Why is that person coming to QPR?
Question 2) particularly important. Anyone stupid enough or cheap enough to take the job won’t be good enough. There is a set of managers who just take jobs so they can get the release fee after they are sacked (I’m looking at you Steve Bruce).
Sadly, this is the pond we are fishing in.
Personally, barring a miracle, I think we will be relegated. I want Ainsworth in charge of that scenario on the basis of his record of lower league promotions. If we went down with anyone else in charge he’d be the name we’d be calling for.
I hope my logic makes sense! [Post edited 21 Oct 2023 19:25]
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Your logic makes sense ie “personally, barring a miracle, I think we will be relegated”
Keeping Ainsworth is illogical, which ever way you looked at our dire situation. He is not going to keep the squad up and keeping him on just kills off any enthusiasm any player had to play for the club
I respectfully disagree with the two points.
No. 1 - for every relegation threatened club there will be someone out there to replace him
No. 2 - particularly important, any one stupid enough and cheap enough is still better than mr positive empty the tank engine. We are talking championship level football, even in a pub team where you play for nothing there is someone out there that could organise a team, devise tactics to defend, attack, score goals, win games. Surely.
What we can’t do is to do nothing - that will be just accepting relegation and not doing anything to avert it.
We can’t just wait for a miracle. Or just hope. Or be lucky. Or just pray.
Won’t happen if you don’t do something about it
Still I think our squad is never not good enough. Could have gotten something at Huddersfield if we were set up properly, the players, the team, the tactics etc
There is still time. To change. Our fate. Is not sealed. Yet. |  |
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| Ainsworth on 20:30 - Oct 21 with 3138 views | BostonR |
| Ainsworth on 20:03 - Oct 21 by BazzaInTheLoft |
See Bury and Scunthorpe for details. There is no Angel investor over the horizon. |
That’s my point! | | | |
| Ainsworth on 20:49 - Oct 21 with 3030 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Ainsworth on 20:00 - Oct 21 by BostonR |
Usual question - who’s buying a club that is losing £2M a month? |
It's gone beyond that though. We are being relegated this season, regardless of GA being manager or not, but the bigger question is how far are we going to fall before our owners FO.
I can see us going full Luton, National League level. We need anyone to come in get a proper structure and stop the rot.
We need new owners who will put some structure in place so we can bounce back quickly.
London club, League 1, FA wage bill, loyal fan base. Some one will buy us. |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 21:12 - Oct 21 with 2882 views | terryb |
| Ainsworth on 19:23 - Oct 21 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I’ll put my neck out and say he should stay on.
Don’t mistake that for praise or a signal I think he’s doing a good job. I just think he should stay on until the following questions are answered:
1) Who will replace him?
2) Why is that person coming to QPR?
Question 2) particularly important. Anyone stupid enough or cheap enough to take the job won’t be good enough. There is a set of managers who just take jobs so they can get the release fee after they are sacked (I’m looking at you Steve Bruce).
Sadly, this is the pond we are fishing in.
Personally, barring a miracle, I think we will be relegated. I want Ainsworth in charge of that scenario on the basis of his record of lower league promotions. If we went down with anyone else in charge he’d be the name we’d be calling for.
I hope my logic makes sense! [Post edited 21 Oct 2023 19:25]
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But the answer to question two Baz is what Ainsworth was when we employed him. Stupid & cheap enough! Also not good enough.
He is meant to be a motivator, so why did he lose all the players so soon after being installed? He is not alone, Dobson & Hall must go with him.
As to his promotion record, has he not been in charge of as many relegations as he has promotions? | | | |
| Ainsworth on 21:15 - Oct 21 with 2864 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Ainsworth on 21:12 - Oct 21 by terryb |
But the answer to question two Baz is what Ainsworth was when we employed him. Stupid & cheap enough! Also not good enough.
He is meant to be a motivator, so why did he lose all the players so soon after being installed? He is not alone, Dobson & Hall must go with him.
As to his promotion record, has he not been in charge of as many relegations as he has promotions? |
Your question about motivation can be applied to all the managers back to Warnock.
It’s the players in my opinion. | | | |
| Ainsworth on 21:26 - Oct 21 with 2801 views | connell10 |
| Ainsworth on 21:15 - Oct 21 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Your question about motivation can be applied to all the managers back to Warnock.
It’s the players in my opinion. |
Well the next home game should be interesting, I'd rather GA goes now than see him crucified by the crowd. |  |
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| Ainsworth on 02:53 - Oct 22 with 2538 views | Hoopsie |
It is about how you play the players too
We still have most of the players here that topped the division a year ago
They can’t just suddenly became sh*t
The football is not right. Blackburn wasn't right. Huddersfield first 20 wasn’t either
That’s down to the manager, mostly | |
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| Ainsworth on 05:52 - Oct 22 with 2423 views | QPROslo |
| Ainsworth on 17:56 - Oct 21 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
I've reached the point that I'd actually have him back. Some on here say the club should have some pride, but we are now being humiliated and becoming a laughing stock.
I'm saying it. Beale back! |
We'll be even more of a "laughing stock" if we took Beale back. Especially so if we win a couple of games with him and then he repeats his previous - with his reputation a little improved he finds a job he cannot refuse and leaves us again before Christmas. | | | |
| Ainsworth on 06:53 - Oct 22 with 2372 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Ainsworth on 05:52 - Oct 22 by QPROslo |
We'll be even more of a "laughing stock" if we took Beale back. Especially so if we win a couple of games with him and then he repeats his previous - with his reputation a little improved he finds a job he cannot refuse and leaves us again before Christmas. |
True, but those 2 wins might help keep us up, and we could get another £1m if he walks again. 😀 | | | |
| Ainsworth on 07:12 - Oct 22 with 2331 views | NorthantsHoop |
It's all very lightweight at Rangers, we just don't have the players or management to keep up with how the game is and progressed at this level. Ainsworth tactics of flowing wing backs getting the ball across for a big centre forward to nod in is all so old school. The better teams are able to stream and flood through the middle, pass quickly and transition defence into attack very quickly, see it so often at Loftus Road. We just don't have the players with sufficient quality or attributes to do this and it does not help is having a manager who is sub standard at the level he is operating in. At the moment all I see is relegation the whole package is below the standard required to maintain Championship football, it was the same with Ainsworth's Wycombe team a couple of years back and it will no doubt come to pass the longer he stays. |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 07:36 - Oct 22 with 2251 views | derbyhoop |
| Ainsworth on 19:23 - Oct 21 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I’ll put my neck out and say he should stay on.
Don’t mistake that for praise or a signal I think he’s doing a good job. I just think he should stay on until the following questions are answered:
1) Who will replace him?
2) Why is that person coming to QPR?
Question 2) particularly important. Anyone stupid enough or cheap enough to take the job won’t be good enough. There is a set of managers who just take jobs so they can get the release fee after they are sacked (I’m looking at you Steve Bruce).
Sadly, this is the pond we are fishing in.
Personally, barring a miracle, I think we will be relegated. I want Ainsworth in charge of that scenario on the basis of his record of lower league promotions. If we went down with anyone else in charge he’d be the name we’d be calling for.
I hope my logic makes sense! [Post edited 21 Oct 2023 19:25]
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I'll repeat what I said on the match thread.
1. We cant afford to sack him
2. We cant afford a replacement
3. if we could fi d somebody of sound mind, to come in we havent got any money to make any changes in personnel. |  |
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| Ainsworth on 07:56 - Oct 22 with 2208 views | traininvain |
Anyone else get the feeling that our owners want Ainsworth to quit so they don’t have to pay him off. It’s the only logical explanation as to why he’s still in the job.
If Ainsworth cares about the club half as much as he says, he’ll do the right thing and admit he’s completely out of his depth. Not holding my breath. |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 08:03 - Oct 22 with 2190 views | Monkey_Roots |
| Ainsworth on 07:56 - Oct 22 by traininvain |
Anyone else get the feeling that our owners want Ainsworth to quit so they don’t have to pay him off. It’s the only logical explanation as to why he’s still in the job.
If Ainsworth cares about the club half as much as he says, he’ll do the right thing and admit he’s completely out of his depth. Not holding my breath. |
I honestly believe that there is something afoot - either a DOF/CEO incoming to take over operations and make the decisions, or we’re in the middle of getting sold, and some kind of legal issue is preventing us from making a change.
Either/and/or, the board just don’t know what they’re doing. |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 08:58 - Oct 22 with 1997 views | distortR |
| Ainsworth on 19:23 - Oct 21 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I’ll put my neck out and say he should stay on.
Don’t mistake that for praise or a signal I think he’s doing a good job. I just think he should stay on until the following questions are answered:
1) Who will replace him?
2) Why is that person coming to QPR?
Question 2) particularly important. Anyone stupid enough or cheap enough to take the job won’t be good enough. There is a set of managers who just take jobs so they can get the release fee after they are sacked (I’m looking at you Steve Bruce).
Sadly, this is the pond we are fishing in.
Personally, barring a miracle, I think we will be relegated. I want Ainsworth in charge of that scenario on the basis of his record of lower league promotions. If we went down with anyone else in charge he’d be the name we’d be calling for.
I hope my logic makes sense! [Post edited 21 Oct 2023 19:25]
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Fair points Baz, but I can't agree.
If we get relegated, there will be no faith in Ainsworth's abilities at any level - supporters, players, potential players. I can watch direct football if it's done well, but this is just shit and, quite frankly, some of the bullshit going on out there on the pitch tactically is utterly moronic.
Contrary to some opinions, I think the big majority of players at Rangers are good lads, they keep running, but their body language is awful at times, and I think that's with what they are asked to do.
People say we can't financially afford to sack Ainsworth and co., I'd argue we can't afford to keep them on. The obvious cost is relegation, there's also declining crowds and associated sales, and, importantly, the depreciation of the value of our assets - if, for instance, we sold Chair or Dykes etc in January, we would get a lot less for them then we would have pre-season.
Next time Amit has an itch, he should buy some cream. | | | |
| Ainsworth on 09:11 - Oct 22 with 1964 views | dmm |
I agree with you distortR. Relegation would obviously cost more than sacking Ainsworth, and quite possibly a very great deal more.
Ainsworth should have gone 2 weeks ago. The longer he stays the worse things will get. The next two games are almost certainly nailed on losses. Saturday's match v Leicester could well be a horrible shellacking with the crowd, those that turn up that is, turning against Ainsworth and the players. I must admit to being in two minds about attending, and I never, ever think about not going to a home game. |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 09:14 - Oct 22 with 1950 views | dm97 |
I cannot hear another word about “transformation/ we’re going to surprise people / we’ve got a great thing going / the boys emptied the tank / they’re giving me everything”. I understand what they’re tying to do in regards to positivity but at this point he is mugging off every fan off who is attending these games. There is no transformation, we are not surprising anyone (maybe except with how little interest we have in defending) and they certainly aren’t giving him everything.
There is no sincerity in what he’s saying and if we feel that way the players must feel it ten fold. Most of them are a disgrace and the lack of proper clear out in the summer looking more and more bizarre, as is the decision not to get a DoF in pronto. This recruitment consultancy better be worth the money.
Feels like we’re down whatever happens, but the idea we should keep him in case he’s good in league 1 is proper barmy. He needs to go for everyone’s sake. I’ve turned up to every home game this season at 2.59 because i don’t want to spend anymore time at LR than I have to, and only considering next Saturday because Leicester look pretty good and might be nice to see some real football played in the flesh.
This is properly f’in horrible now |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 09:18 - Oct 22 with 1923 views | Quite_Possibly_Ropey |
Agree with last couple of posts, I find myself almost worried to go to Leicester game as it feels like we will witness a massacre of our beloved club. I also feel like I don't want to go, with everything going on anyway, and that really is depressing.
Genuine question though, if there was a boycott of the Leicester game, would it have any impact on the board/management? Would an 8-0 drubbing next week cause any fundamental change, other than the guaranteed end of Ainsworth's tenure?
Feels like the board are oblivious/ignorant to any of very obvious changes that should have happened years ago. [Post edited 22 Oct 2023 9:19]
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| Ainsworth on 09:41 - Oct 22 with 1789 views | GaryBannister86 |
I rarely think it makes much difference to get rid of one of our managers, but GA lost me at the Leeds away game. Doesn't always have to be a massive defeat to make you realise the tactics are plain stupid, the hoofball demoralising and the whole thing.......stinks.
I don't think we should keep him as he knows how to get out of League One. If we are so desperate to do that, we could just rehire him then anyway? Am sure he would come.
We need a long-term reset - with a proper manager who wants to play football. I would rather try and get out of League One playing football than hoofball.
I also hate what he is doing to our players, to Chair, Armstrong, Dykes - they are hardly world-beaters but being giving such little chance to play properly. [Post edited 22 Oct 2023 9:42]
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