| Closed lists on 08:08 - Sep 20 with 1408 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Closed lists on 09:30 - Sep 19 by Kilkennyjack |
What a bunch of drama queens …
Westminster just cut the number of welsh MPs from 40 to 32.
Any views on that one - like all our children will now have live in Dubai as a result etc … 😢
I thought not …🤷â€â™‚ï¸ |
Wrong again Wales still has 40 MPs.
Did you mean the independent electoral commission which has proposed that all constituencies in the UK should have the same number of voters so that they are more democratic.
Closed list are not democratic. ALLl Senedd members should be elected by the people of Wales not appointed by Drakeford's Labour |  |
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| Closed lists on 08:30 - Sep 20 with 1397 views | BryanSwan |
| Closed lists on 13:56 - Sep 19 by onehunglow |
Kid yourself not.many Englsih people will eshew Wales preferring places where their language wont be seen as that of the Devil himself.
Tourist taxes will also see Wales lose jobs.Fact.Nobody HAS to go to Wales;it has to attract people . |
I'll tell that to the two English couples who have recently moved into the street. They seem to like it more than enough down here.
Most of Europe has a tourist tax, which works out at a couple of £ at the most. I dont think there will be loads of people reconsidering holidays because of loose change.
Back to the original thread topic though, I think closed lists are a disgrace. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:19 - Sep 20 with 1371 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Closed lists on 17:42 - Sep 19 by Flashberryjack |
Wales is being strangled by Drakeford and the clowns in the Senedd, while screaming that it's Westminsters fault. |
Its Westmonsters fault.
Eddie Butler was right. |  |
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| Closed lists on 09:24 - Sep 20 with 1370 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Closed lists on 08:08 - Sep 20 by felixstowe_jack |
Wrong again Wales still has 40 MPs.
Did you mean the independent electoral commission which has proposed that all constituencies in the UK should have the same number of voters so that they are more democratic.
Closed list are not democratic. ALLl Senedd members should be elected by the people of Wales not appointed by Drakeford's Labour |
They have announced that they are cutting the number of welsh mps.
There is no more debate - its done.
This means less votes for Wales so Wales gets less say.
It further reduces welsh influence at Westminster.
Dress it up as you like - but thats the bottom line.
It shuts down the welsh voice in uk politics.
Independence is the only answer. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:28 - Sep 20 with 1369 views | onehunglow |
| Closed lists on 08:30 - Sep 20 by BryanSwan |
I'll tell that to the two English couples who have recently moved into the street. They seem to like it more than enough down here.
Most of Europe has a tourist tax, which works out at a couple of £ at the most. I dont think there will be loads of people reconsidering holidays because of loose change.
Back to the original thread topic though, I think closed lists are a disgrace. |
You ever spoken to any English family moving into Bethesda,Nefyn or Blaenau Fest. England doesnt have a tourist tax.There is a choice,go somewhere where there is a tax or one where there is not. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:35 - Sep 20 with 1366 views | BryanSwan |
| Closed lists on 09:28 - Sep 20 by onehunglow |
You ever spoken to any English family moving into Bethesda,Nefyn or Blaenau Fest. England doesnt have a tourist tax.There is a choice,go somewhere where there is a tax or one where there is not. |
Nope, just the ones who have moved into my street. Thats just my experience, obviously different areas will be different. I'd imagine if i moved into some places i wouldn't get on either.
There will slways be a choice though, i just dont think around £2 or £3 is the deciding factor for 99% of people. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:54 - Sep 20 with 1361 views | onehunglow |
| Closed lists on 09:35 - Sep 20 by BryanSwan |
Nope, just the ones who have moved into my street. Thats just my experience, obviously different areas will be different. I'd imagine if i moved into some places i wouldn't get on either.
There will slways be a choice though, i just dont think around £2 or £3 is the deciding factor for 99% of people. |
Well you seem a decent sort to me.
You'd be welcomed here alright in the north west | |
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| Closed lists on 10:53 - Sep 20 with 1335 views | Whiterockin |
| Closed lists on 09:35 - Sep 20 by BryanSwan |
Nope, just the ones who have moved into my street. Thats just my experience, obviously different areas will be different. I'd imagine if i moved into some places i wouldn't get on either.
There will slways be a choice though, i just dont think around £2 or £3 is the deciding factor for 99% of people. |
As a matter of interest how is the £2-£3 calculated and is that the total tax or is it multiplied by person and per night. Who collects the tax and forwards it to the Senedd. If its just a total of £2-£3 surely it would cost more to administer than is received. |  | | |
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| Closed lists on 11:02 - Sep 20 with 1318 views | builthjack |
| Closed lists on 17:41 - Sep 19 by onehunglow |
Well yes.
Welsh will be spoken by all or not at all.
Every English road sign taken down and any English people expelled
Not that socialist really.
Plenty to talk about in Welsh though ,mainly about the English and all this whilst Wales starves and the jobs evaporate.
30 per cent of welsh economy is tourism.
Still,yma o hyd and the valleys sing again only this time Oratoria in memorial of a once great little land . |
You really don't like the Welsh do you. |  |
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| Closed lists on 11:23 - Sep 20 with 1305 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Closed lists on 09:24 - Sep 20 by Kilkennyjack |
They have announced that they are cutting the number of welsh mps.
There is no more debate - its done.
This means less votes for Wales so Wales gets less say.
It further reduces welsh influence at Westminster.
Dress it up as you like - but thats the bottom line.
It shuts down the welsh voice in uk politics.
Independence is the only answer. |
The number of Welsh MPs is still the same it has not been cut and legislation has not been introduced to parliament let alone passed.
Why do you keep posting mistruths.
Wales has more control over its own decisions than England because there is no devolution in England. Welsh and Scottish MPs can still vote on England only matters in Parliament.
Anyway back to the Original post. Why should closed lists be imposed on the people of Wales? What ever happened to democracy? Perhaps voters should have a referendum on this power grab. | |
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| Closed lists on 12:46 - Sep 20 with 1273 views | onehunglow |
| Closed lists on 11:02 - Sep 20 by builthjack |
You really don't like the Welsh do you. |
Oh I dunno. Only those that act like it’s Nirvana | |
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| Closed lists on 19:54 - Sep 20 with 1221 views | BryanSwan |
| Closed lists on 10:53 - Sep 20 by Whiterockin |
As a matter of interest how is the £2-£3 calculated and is that the total tax or is it multiplied by person and per night. Who collects the tax and forwards it to the Senedd. If its just a total of £2-£3 surely it would cost more to administer than is received. |
I have to be honest I have no clue how the system works or is applied. But from what I've seen in European countries the tax is usually collected by the hotel, I'd assume we would work on a similar model. | |
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| Closed lists on 21:01 - Sep 20 with 1186 views | Whiterockin |
| Closed lists on 19:54 - Sep 20 by BryanSwan |
I have to be honest I have no clue how the system works or is applied. But from what I've seen in European countries the tax is usually collected by the hotel, I'd assume we would work on a similar model. |
Looks like it would be up to individual councils to decide if they want to implement the tax. They are also talking about it costing about £75 per family. Would you travel from Manchester to North Wales or the lake district, or from Bristol to west Wales or Cornwall if the tax was implemented.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tourism-tax-could-add-75-24899 | | | |
| Closed lists on 23:09 - Sep 20 with 1146 views | majorraglan |
| Closed lists on 19:54 - Sep 20 by BryanSwan |
I have to be honest I have no clue how the system works or is applied. But from what I've seen in European countries the tax is usually collected by the hotel, I'd assume we would work on a similar model. |
I’ve recently returned from a trip to Majorca where the Balearic Government have imposed a tourist tax - the place was bouncing! The rates vary according to the type of accommodation, a 5 star hotel costs €4 per person per night, a 3 star hotel costs €2 and camping or lodges cost €1, inland tourism is cheaper and kids under 16 are free. After 9 days the rate decreases by 50% and out of season the rate reduces by 75%.
There is no reason why we can’t introduce a sensible tourist tax, but the emphasis needs to be on the word sensible. Politicians have a habit of killing the goose that lays the golden egg!
On the subject of the closed list, I’m against it. [Post edited 20 Sep 2022 23:11]
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| Closed lists on 08:54 - Sep 21 with 1110 views | felixstowe_jack |
If you are a Welsh resident and you have to pay a tourist tax for a holiday in Wales but none if you went on holiday in England would this influence your decision. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:47 - Sep 21 with 1104 views | BryanSwan |
I wouldn't take much notice of that, those are estimates drawn up by the "Welsh" conservatives and we all know the calibre of their representation.
Most European countries usually operate on a rate of €1 per night per room, this would be a sensible option for councils to apply. If they decide to do so at all. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:56 - Sep 21 with 1100 views | Whiterockin |
| Closed lists on 08:54 - Sep 21 by felixstowe_jack |
If you are a Welsh resident and you have to pay a tourist tax for a holiday in Wales but none if you went on holiday in England would this influence your decision. |
I think it would depend on the size of my family and where I lived in Wales (travelling distance). Living in Newport/Chepstow would be different to someone living in Swansea. | | | |
| Closed lists on 09:59 - Sep 21 with 1098 views | Whiterockin |
| Closed lists on 09:47 - Sep 21 by BryanSwan |
I wouldn't take much notice of that, those are estimates drawn up by the "Welsh" conservatives and we all know the calibre of their representation.
Most European countries usually operate on a rate of €1 per night per room, this would be a sensible option for councils to apply. If they decide to do so at all. |
It will be like the 20mph speed limit, local councils will not implement it. Several have already said that they will not enforce the speed limit, the same will be with the tourist tax. | | | |
| Closed lists on 10:02 - Sep 21 with 1094 views | BryanSwan |
| Closed lists on 09:59 - Sep 21 by Whiterockin |
It will be like the 20mph speed limit, local councils will not implement it. Several have already said that they will not enforce the speed limit, the same will be with the tourist tax. |
They won't put in speed limits and fine offenders, they'll just chuck down a load of speed bumps. The councils know exactly what the people want....
If it were a couple £ a holiday ive no problem with it, any extra money to help improve the communities would be great. | |
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| Closed lists on 10:08 - Sep 21 with 1091 views | Whiterockin |
| Closed lists on 10:02 - Sep 21 by BryanSwan |
They won't put in speed limits and fine offenders, they'll just chuck down a load of speed bumps. The councils know exactly what the people want....
If it were a couple £ a holiday ive no problem with it, any extra money to help improve the communities would be great. |
Can you really see Mumbles Pier to to halfway along Fabian Way being cut to 20mph with speed humps. | | | |
| Closed lists on 10:17 - Sep 21 with 1087 views | BryanSwan |
| Closed lists on 10:08 - Sep 21 by Whiterockin |
Can you really see Mumbles Pier to to halfway along Fabian Way being cut to 20mph with speed humps. |
I was just lamenting how most councils decide to lump a load of speed bumps to stop speeding.
They'd rather do that than use a camera. | |
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| Closed lists on 10:49 - Sep 21 with 1079 views | Whiterockin |
| Closed lists on 10:17 - Sep 21 by BryanSwan |
I was just lamenting how most councils decide to lump a load of speed bumps to stop speeding.
They'd rather do that than use a camera. |
They either put in blanket rules across Wales or don't bother. The regulations, speed limit and tourist tax are not practical. Only 68% (that includes Welsh Nationals visiting another area) of overnight stays are tourists the rest are business stays and people visiting relatives. The pressure that will be put on local councilors whether to implement the rules will be unexceptable.
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Apologies for straying away from the core subject I will leave it there. [Post edited 21 Sep 2022 10:50]
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| Closed lists on 09:46 - Sep 22 with 1019 views | Kilkennyjack |
Its a very good thing.
The money must be reinvested in facilities for future tourism.
That builds a better sustainable future for all.
The tax will not be onerous. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:49 - Sep 22 with 1019 views | onehunglow |
Tom Beynon on yesterday stating clearly they were a very bad idea and would discourage people from coming to Wales.That is a caravan site owner speaking who makes a living out of tourism.
Anyone involved in the tourism industry on here.? | |
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| Closed lists on 10:39 - Sep 22 with 1011 views | Boundy |
| Closed lists on 10:08 - Sep 21 by Whiterockin |
Can you really see Mumbles Pier to to halfway along Fabian Way being cut to 20mph with speed humps. |
Yep , Fabian Way is now 40 not 50 so it's a coming , | |
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