Trust questions to Dunphy on 16:34 - Apr 4 with 7782 views | Dalenet | Very interesting indeed. A bit surprised that CD thinks £200k in new investment would be enough to stabilise the club. Doesn't sound very much of we really are struggling financially. He clearly doesn't have a great deal of confidence with the current board - like many of the posters on here. I wonder if that extends to Andrew Kelly? But to move the CEO out of position would need a pay-off. It may be popular but where does the cash come from? No mention of the plan for on the pitch | | | |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 17:02 - Apr 4 with 7679 views | D_Alien | Great to see a bit more meat on the bones from CD, well done Trust Remains to be to seen what comes back from the club - if anything. I suspect the latter | |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 17:08 - Apr 4 with 7653 views | electricblue | What an interesting read and CD as put to bed the rumours about his leaving... In that short interview with the trust CD lays bare quite a lot of past and his intension.. Lets hope the shareholders do the right thing but as CD got enough support thats the question........ | |
| My all time favourite Dale player Mr Lyndon Symmonds |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 17:31 - Apr 4 with 7550 views | nordenblue |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 17:08 - Apr 4 by electricblue | What an interesting read and CD as put to bed the rumours about his leaving... In that short interview with the trust CD lays bare quite a lot of past and his intension.. Lets hope the shareholders do the right thing but as CD got enough support thats the question........ |
I'd guess he's got a little bit more support than he has opposition.... | | | |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 17:32 - Apr 4 with 7544 views | nordenblue |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 16:34 - Apr 4 by Dalenet | Very interesting indeed. A bit surprised that CD thinks £200k in new investment would be enough to stabilise the club. Doesn't sound very much of we really are struggling financially. He clearly doesn't have a great deal of confidence with the current board - like many of the posters on here. I wonder if that extends to Andrew Kelly? But to move the CEO out of position would need a pay-off. It may be popular but where does the cash come from? No mention of the plan for on the pitch |
With Andrew Kelly on the "current" board I'd guess he falls into the category of not being in CDs plans | | | |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 17:49 - Apr 4 with 7464 views | boromat | Unfortunately I get the impression this could be a long process. Maybe I read it incorrectly but sounds like there's a complicated logistical process to go through in order to get there. I doubt the £200k is the only part of the plan to save the club but possibly also the restructuring to cut the wage bill among other ideas. | |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 17:56 - Apr 4 with 7436 views | dawlishdale | The interview is the most damning condemnation possible of the current Board, and especially, the CEO. It massively underlines the need for change, and that we are currently on a quick path to oblivion under Bottomley, which is exactly what a growing number of us have been saying for over a year. Thankfully, it appears that there is real momentum now, and I'd urge everyone to do all they can to rid us of our current CEO. If he has been such an avid Dale fan (for over 50 years, as he says) he won't require any sort of pay off at all; having been well paid for his time in the job these past couple of years, at a time when he couldn't get employment anywhere else (his words) | | | |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:01 - Apr 4 with 7395 views | nordenblue |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 17:56 - Apr 4 by dawlishdale | The interview is the most damning condemnation possible of the current Board, and especially, the CEO. It massively underlines the need for change, and that we are currently on a quick path to oblivion under Bottomley, which is exactly what a growing number of us have been saying for over a year. Thankfully, it appears that there is real momentum now, and I'd urge everyone to do all they can to rid us of our current CEO. If he has been such an avid Dale fan (for over 50 years, as he says) he won't require any sort of pay off at all; having been well paid for his time in the job these past couple of years, at a time when he couldn't get employment anywhere else (his words) |
Does anyone happen to know exactly what he has been "rewarded" for all his hard work the current CEO? | | | | Login to get fewer ads
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:02 - Apr 4 with 7390 views | EllDale | Pretty frank stuff. Strikes me that he’s completely unimpressed by the current board. The newer board members who have joined since his retirement may be welcome providing that they can convince him of their value. As for the others...... I’m pretty sure that Andrew Kelly had left the board quite a while before CDs departure but came back after he left which suggests to me that things weren’t exactly amicable between the two men. Would we see the return of Bill Goodwin? | | | |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:10 - Apr 4 with 7324 views | Nigeriamark |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 16:34 - Apr 4 by Dalenet | Very interesting indeed. A bit surprised that CD thinks £200k in new investment would be enough to stabilise the club. Doesn't sound very much of we really are struggling financially. He clearly doesn't have a great deal of confidence with the current board - like many of the posters on here. I wonder if that extends to Andrew Kelly? But to move the CEO out of position would need a pay-off. It may be popular but where does the cash come from? No mention of the plan for on the pitch |
If DB is as incompetent as some on here suggest then he could be sacked so no need for a payout | | | |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:11 - Apr 4 with 7321 views | Shun | That’s an absolutely scathing assessment of the board members! Wow! Perhaps I’ve become accustomed to the agenda from the club over the past few years, but I did not expect anything so brutally candid. Well done to Dunphy for his honesty and his passion, but I do wonder how he’ll be able to have a working relationship with those board members after saying such things publicly. Edit: I read it too quickly, he plans to remove all members of the current board. Even more wow! [Post edited 4 Apr 2021 18:13]
| | | |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:16 - Apr 4 with 7287 views | boromat |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:02 - Apr 4 by EllDale | Pretty frank stuff. Strikes me that he’s completely unimpressed by the current board. The newer board members who have joined since his retirement may be welcome providing that they can convince him of their value. As for the others...... I’m pretty sure that Andrew Kelly had left the board quite a while before CDs departure but came back after he left which suggests to me that things weren’t exactly amicable between the two men. Would we see the return of Bill Goodwin? |
Am not sure I agree. I read it that Kelly may be the only member of the current board that CD has any respect for as he has Dale at heart and is the one he's contacted. As if his statement about the board was not inclusive of Kelly. I see it that it's more so Kilpatrick and the other board members that he either doesn't agree with or doesn't know. I think Kelly came back to the board knowing that they needed someone at that time with CD leaving. I'm not sure he would have felt the need to come back otherwise regardless of CD being here or not. | |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:17 - Apr 4 with 7272 views | judd |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:11 - Apr 4 by Shun | That’s an absolutely scathing assessment of the board members! Wow! Perhaps I’ve become accustomed to the agenda from the club over the past few years, but I did not expect anything so brutally candid. Well done to Dunphy for his honesty and his passion, but I do wonder how he’ll be able to have a working relationship with those board members after saying such things publicly. Edit: I read it too quickly, he plans to remove all members of the current board. Even more wow! [Post edited 4 Apr 2021 18:13]
|
He doesn't have any intention of doing so, Shun. Factions furthering their own ambitions - quelle surprise. | |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:21 - Apr 4 with 7246 views | Nigeriamark |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 16:34 - Apr 4 by Dalenet | Very interesting indeed. A bit surprised that CD thinks £200k in new investment would be enough to stabilise the club. Doesn't sound very much of we really are struggling financially. He clearly doesn't have a great deal of confidence with the current board - like many of the posters on here. I wonder if that extends to Andrew Kelly? But to move the CEO out of position would need a pay-off. It may be popular but where does the cash come from? No mention of the plan for on the pitch |
If DB is as incompetent as some on here suggest then he could be sacked so no need for a payout | | | |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:21 - Apr 4 with 7239 views | Shun |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:17 - Apr 4 by judd | He doesn't have any intention of doing so, Shun. Factions furthering their own ambitions - quelle surprise. |
As someone who has no idea how things like this work, judd, how likely is this to happen? He says he needs shareholders to vote him in. If all the current board members hold large amounts of shares that’s a fair majority of votes that are presumably going against him? | | | |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:24 - Apr 4 with 7226 views | judd |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:21 - Apr 4 by Nigeriamark | If DB is as incompetent as some on here suggest then he could be sacked so no need for a payout |
He has over 2 years in post so proper procedure needs to be followed. It is up to the current board to identify any acts that warrant summary dismissal, I would imagine. | |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:34 - Apr 4 with 7177 views | fitzochris |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:02 - Apr 4 by EllDale | Pretty frank stuff. Strikes me that he’s completely unimpressed by the current board. The newer board members who have joined since his retirement may be welcome providing that they can convince him of their value. As for the others...... I’m pretty sure that Andrew Kelly had left the board quite a while before CDs departure but came back after he left which suggests to me that things weren’t exactly amicable between the two men. Would we see the return of Bill Goodwin? |
“ Would we see the return of Bill Goodwin?” Yes. https://rochdaleafcnews.com/2021/03/27/chris-dunphy-set-for-rochdale-afc-return/ | |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:35 - Apr 4 with 7169 views | boromat |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:24 - Apr 4 by judd | He has over 2 years in post so proper procedure needs to be followed. It is up to the current board to identify any acts that warrant summary dismissal, I would imagine. |
Yeah I don't understand the attacks on DB. I can't say whether he's doing a good job or not. But what I do know is he isn't getting the support other CEOs have had from the board. And I say know because at the very least there's hardly any of them at the moment never mind any that are hands on on a daily basis, by their own admission. In the past directors have been more heavily involved in the running of the club as it stands we don't have that and instead we have more staff in positions we didn't know we needed 😂. That's the impression I have anyway. On DB maybe he isn't doing a good job and maybe he does need to be replaced but the first step is to get the board in order and sorted out no matter what that means. | |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:36 - Apr 4 with 7165 views | judd |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:21 - Apr 4 by Shun | As someone who has no idea how things like this work, judd, how likely is this to happen? He says he needs shareholders to vote him in. If all the current board members hold large amounts of shares that’s a fair majority of votes that are presumably going against him? |
He has met with Andrew Kelly, who has c 12% shareholding. Who knows if an agreement was reached? The other board members have c 7.5% of shareholding between them. CD appears to have left on good terms with the last Chairman (22%), and although has had no contact with the Americans (15%), he undoubtedly had a good relationship with them also. The Overcoat Men may very well throw their support behind CD, cannot remember their combined share holding, and Jim Marsh's family have retained their fathers' shares,.I would expect they would support CD. The Trust has c 2.5% shareholding and the overwhelming majority who contacted the Trust in support of CD coming back should see these shares aligned to a CD return. | |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:39 - Apr 4 with 7145 views | judd |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:35 - Apr 4 by boromat | Yeah I don't understand the attacks on DB. I can't say whether he's doing a good job or not. But what I do know is he isn't getting the support other CEOs have had from the board. And I say know because at the very least there's hardly any of them at the moment never mind any that are hands on on a daily basis, by their own admission. In the past directors have been more heavily involved in the running of the club as it stands we don't have that and instead we have more staff in positions we didn't know we needed 😂. That's the impression I have anyway. On DB maybe he isn't doing a good job and maybe he does need to be replaced but the first step is to get the board in order and sorted out no matter what that means. |
"Isn't getting the support..." Fookin hell, man. He's been running the show as he sees fit from day 1. Just look at how the contract extension was handled, for example. | |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:39 - Apr 4 with 7146 views | electricblue |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 17:31 - Apr 4 by nordenblue | I'd guess he's got a little bit more support than he has opposition.... |
Reading a post just a couple up from this it sounds that CD may have a minimum of 40/45% vote support.... Lets hope the EGM is sooner than later... Its not a fore gone conclusion but we live in hope...... [Post edited 4 Apr 2021 18:53]
| |
| My all time favourite Dale player Mr Lyndon Symmonds |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:40 - Apr 4 with 7138 views | D_Alien |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:16 - Apr 4 by boromat | Am not sure I agree. I read it that Kelly may be the only member of the current board that CD has any respect for as he has Dale at heart and is the one he's contacted. As if his statement about the board was not inclusive of Kelly. I see it that it's more so Kilpatrick and the other board members that he either doesn't agree with or doesn't know. I think Kelly came back to the board knowing that they needed someone at that time with CD leaving. I'm not sure he would have felt the need to come back otherwise regardless of CD being here or not. |
CD says he's been to see AK No doubt to enquire about his well-being, which in itself is significant; but possibly also to test the water regarding a potential future relationship and support in any restructuring | |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:51 - Apr 4 with 7078 views | TomRAFC | Dunphy will surely have been scoping things out for a while, prior to going public. I don't see him having any issue getting a big enough percentage of the current shareholding to trigger an EGM. To win the vote at the EGM, he is likely to need one (if not more) of Kilpatrick, Kelly, Altman/Marcelli voting in his favour. They might welcome him, they might not, or they might simply see him as a better option than the current crop. | |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:52 - Apr 4 with 7076 views | tony_roch975 |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 17:49 - Apr 4 by boromat | Unfortunately I get the impression this could be a long process. Maybe I read it incorrectly but sounds like there's a complicated logistical process to go through in order to get there. I doubt the £200k is the only part of the plan to save the club but possibly also the restructuring to cut the wage bill among other ideas. |
plus neither CD or anyone can buy unissued shares unless the (current) Board issue them - £200K seems far too little and yet more cuts to the wage bill would be self defeating | |
| |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 19:06 - Apr 4 with 7007 views | judd |
Trust questions to Dunphy on 18:52 - Apr 4 by tony_roch975 | plus neither CD or anyone can buy unissued shares unless the (current) Board issue them - £200K seems far too little and yet more cuts to the wage bill would be self defeating |
CD clearly states he will NOT buy shares whilst the current board exists. | |
| |
| |