| Face masks 10:37 - Jan 13 with 4702 views | Whiterockin |
Should people who are exempt from wearing face masks on medical grounds be made to shield, for their own safety and the safety of others. IMO opinion it makes no sense for people to be allowed into confined spaces without a face mask. It certainly would simplify matters, no face mask no entry 100%. |  | | |  |
| Face masks on 19:47 - Jan 13 with 1398 views | SPboy |
| Face masks on 19:12 - Jan 13 by exhmrc1 |
As far as student parties they are not majorly impacting on the figures. Brynmill has had 27 new cases in the last 7 days and Uplands 35. They are down from 67 and 85 on 22 Dec. [Post edited 13 Jan 2021 19:13]
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| Face masks on 21:28 - Jan 13 with 1358 views | Jack_Kass |
Lets say it how it is and that face masks have done f**k all, considering we are in a worse position than we were in March |  |
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| Face masks on 21:31 - Jan 13 with 1355 views | onehunglow |
| Face masks on 21:28 - Jan 13 by Jack_Kass |
Lets say it how it is and that face masks have done f**k all, considering we are in a worse position than we were in March |
And the proof is what exactly.
Proven how?
By stats?
What you suggest.Bin them,distanceing too wrong.1 mtr/2 mtr. Which is right or simply zero. Maybe we just ignore it and it'll go away. Good luck on that.
Better take a look at the Christmas parties people flocked to.A far better guide. | |
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| Face masks on 22:55 - Jan 13 with 1336 views | Jack_Kass |
| Face masks on 21:31 - Jan 13 by onehunglow |
And the proof is what exactly.
Proven how?
By stats?
What you suggest.Bin them,distanceing too wrong.1 mtr/2 mtr. Which is right or simply zero. Maybe we just ignore it and it'll go away. Good luck on that.
Better take a look at the Christmas parties people flocked to.A far better guide. |
The proof is in the pudding.
The mask is only as good as the person behind it.
People think wearing a mask is a catch all safety net, and most people don't wear them the right way, or are wearing ones labelled as 'fashion masks', that are horrendously useless. [Post edited 13 Jan 2021 22:56]
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| Face masks on 07:15 - Jan 14 with 1293 views | Dr_Winston |
| Face masks on 22:55 - Jan 13 by Jack_Kass |
The proof is in the pudding.
The mask is only as good as the person behind it.
People think wearing a mask is a catch all safety net, and most people don't wear them the right way, or are wearing ones labelled as 'fashion masks', that are horrendously useless. [Post edited 13 Jan 2021 22:56]
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False sense of security. "I'm OK, I've got a mask on". The same kind of effect you can see with those who wear gloves everywhere. You're supposed to use them once then get rid of them, yet these eejits wear them to every single place they go.
Social distancing in shops = out the window. Proper sanitisation of hands and trolleys = out the window. The Welsh Gov have got Police issuing tickets to people visiting their elderly parents whilst dopes spread it freely in Tesco. [Post edited 14 Jan 2021 7:16]
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| Face masks on 07:32 - Jan 14 with 1290 views | raynor94 |
| Face masks on 22:55 - Jan 13 by Jack_Kass |
The proof is in the pudding.
The mask is only as good as the person behind it.
People think wearing a mask is a catch all safety net, and most people don't wear them the right way, or are wearing ones labelled as 'fashion masks', that are horrendously useless. [Post edited 13 Jan 2021 22:56]
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Great post, people with beards wearing masks, laughable. |  |
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| Face masks on 09:35 - Jan 14 with 1286 views | builthjack |
| Face masks on 07:32 - Jan 14 by raynor94 |
Great post, people with beards wearing masks, laughable. |
Get them shaved |  |
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| Face masks on 12:37 - Jan 14 with 1254 views | Highjack |
| Face masks on 21:28 - Jan 13 by Jack_Kass |
Lets say it how it is and that face masks have done f**k all, considering we are in a worse position than we were in March |
It would certainly seem so, but then correlation is often not related to causation.
As posted above I think people have been misinformed about the effectiveness of masks. Although they can help they are never going to stop you from catching it if you come into close contact with someone who has it. One of the main reasons the experts were reluctant to move to mask use in the first place was that it instills a false sense of safety and people wouldn't distance anymore. That is exactly what has happened. |  |
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| Face masks on 12:54 - Jan 14 with 1243 views | whiterock |
JVT said there is no evidence that masks work, I think, at the time, he was trying to protect our scandalously low supply and wanted to keep what we did have for front line workers, he's changed his tune now.
I personally think masks help, like distancing and hand sanitising, if we all do these 3 things it will take the strain off the NHS or help too. | | | |
| Face masks on 13:09 - Jan 14 with 1239 views | exhmrc1 |
| Face masks on 12:54 - Jan 14 by whiterock |
JVT said there is no evidence that masks work, I think, at the time, he was trying to protect our scandalously low supply and wanted to keep what we did have for front line workers, he's changed his tune now.
I personally think masks help, like distancing and hand sanitising, if we all do these 3 things it will take the strain off the NHS or help too. |
It isnt just JVT who believed that. So did Frank Atherton and looking at what has happened since they are correct. They were concerned that people wearing masks would then be less likely to keep to social distancing and hand washing. The evidence since masks were introduced supports that argument. Figures have risen ever since. Johnson introduced them against medical advice just like he changed the 2 metre rule in England against medical advice. | | | |
| Face masks on 13:31 - Jan 14 with 1236 views | whiterock |
| Face masks on 13:09 - Jan 14 by exhmrc1 |
It isnt just JVT who believed that. So did Frank Atherton and looking at what has happened since they are correct. They were concerned that people wearing masks would then be less likely to keep to social distancing and hand washing. The evidence since masks were introduced supports that argument. Figures have risen ever since. Johnson introduced them against medical advice just like he changed the 2 metre rule in England against medical advice. |
Social distancing works, stay in where ever possible but wearing a mask, if out is a last resort. I agree it does lull people into a false sense of security but shouldn't. | | | |
| Face masks on 13:40 - Jan 14 with 1231 views | onehunglow |
| Face masks on 13:31 - Jan 14 by whiterock |
Social distancing works, stay in where ever possible but wearing a mask, if out is a last resort. I agree it does lull people into a false sense of security but shouldn't. |
This thread worries me.
Nobody but nobody know the best way to treat this virus.
It is effectively eat of the pants stuff.
To dismiss wearing mask is ludicrous. Is it worth the risk.?
An no,people at large do NOT believe wearing a mask is as suggested.
We simply cannot face up to this curse of covid.
We all think we are right,which is wrong | |
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| Face masks on 13:44 - Jan 14 with 1227 views | Highjack |
| Face masks on 12:54 - Jan 14 by whiterock |
JVT said there is no evidence that masks work, I think, at the time, he was trying to protect our scandalously low supply and wanted to keep what we did have for front line workers, he's changed his tune now.
I personally think masks help, like distancing and hand sanitising, if we all do these 3 things it will take the strain off the NHS or help too. |
Distancing is the only thing that matters. They need to be banging this drum as hard as they can. If I’m in my house and you are in yours and one of us has covid the chance of us catching a virus off each other is zero. If we both decide to go to the shop and we both congregate around the reduced to clear area with masks and clean hands the chance increases exponentially. | |
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| Face masks on 15:55 - Jan 14 with 1209 views | onehunglow |
Bollox.
We have a country where people,during a vicious pandemic,drive over 100 miles to get pyssed up and party,seeing it as a priority.
It is the mindset we must change.
It is what this country suffers from-the party generation . | |
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| Face masks on 17:43 - Jan 14 with 1186 views | Highjack |
| Face masks on 15:55 - Jan 14 by onehunglow |
Bollox.
We have a country where people,during a vicious pandemic,drive over 100 miles to get pyssed up and party,seeing it as a priority.
It is the mindset we must change.
It is what this country suffers from-the party generation . |
Bollocks.
Just stay at home unless you absolutely have to go out. If you do have to go out keep your distance from others and try and get back home as soon as possible. It isn’t a complicated concept.
Remain indoors. | |
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| Face masks on 18:34 - Jan 14 with 1165 views | Neath_Jack |
| Face masks on 07:32 - Jan 14 by raynor94 |
Great post, people with beards wearing masks, laughable. |
Masks and face coverings are two different things, which work in different ways.
Having a beard and wearing a face covering is sound. The face covering is there to ask as a barrier for you shooting your spittle and breath out. like holding a handkerchief over your nose when sneezing.
A face mask (or RPE) relies on a good seal around your face. This doesn't happen if you've got a beard, or even stubble, when wearing half masks, disposable masks etc, so are not worth a toss. RPE is to prevent you breathing things in, not out. |  |
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| Face masks on 21:53 - Jan 14 with 1143 views | onehunglow |
| Face masks on 17:43 - Jan 14 by Highjack |
Bollocks.
Just stay at home unless you absolutely have to go out. If you do have to go out keep your distance from others and try and get back home as soon as possible. It isn’t a complicated concept.
Remain indoors. |
Read what is said before jumping in.
Several flooded into Liverpool from many British cities to party.
None were prepared to stay at home.
That we have so many prepared to flout any rules for the greater good of us al is our main problem.
It is Bellox to think otherwise so it follows you are posting said bollox | |
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| Face masks on 22:09 - Jan 14 with 1138 views | Catullus |
| Face masks on 22:55 - Jan 13 by Jack_Kass |
The proof is in the pudding.
The mask is only as good as the person behind it.
People think wearing a mask is a catch all safety net, and most people don't wear them the right way, or are wearing ones labelled as 'fashion masks', that are horrendously useless. [Post edited 13 Jan 2021 22:56]
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It's hard to say as we have no idea where we'd be if we weren't wearing masks.
We only know where we are, trying to claim where we would have been is a fools errand.
I agree we have too mnay stupid people ignoring rules and spreading it. Just today I had to go to the chemist for my prescription. A woman came barging into the shop, no mask, ignoring the sign about only 2 people at a time, proclaiming loudly sorry but she's in a rush. Well that's ok then, as long as it's important eh.
That there is a huge problem, too many people think they can do as they please no matter the impact because they are that self important.
I should be getting my scripts delivered! | |
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| Face masks on 11:26 - Jan 15 with 1092 views | onehunglow |
| Face masks on 22:09 - Jan 14 by Catullus |
It's hard to say as we have no idea where we'd be if we weren't wearing masks.
We only know where we are, trying to claim where we would have been is a fools errand.
I agree we have too mnay stupid people ignoring rules and spreading it. Just today I had to go to the chemist for my prescription. A woman came barging into the shop, no mask, ignoring the sign about only 2 people at a time, proclaiming loudly sorry but she's in a rush. Well that's ok then, as long as it's important eh.
That there is a huge problem, too many people think they can do as they please no matter the impact because they are that self important.
I should be getting my scripts delivered! |
She could be rushing to an early grave.
Watching the new last night is harrowing with the obvious pain Covid brings and yet, we doubt distancing ,masks and let's face it,washing hands for 20 seconds.
Those who catch it and lose family from it have no doubts at all | |
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| Face masks on 11:36 - Jan 15 with 1084 views | jackrmee |
I suggest everyone read this book.
It's simple facts and figures, showing how misguided we all may be.
THe book covers mask wearing, infection and death rates, lockdowns and vaccines.
It's written by German doctors, so is from their point of view, however it's an extremely interesting and eye-opening take on the pandemic, which is directly relatable to ourselves and the figures given to us by the media and our government.
Edit...forgot to link the book
https://www.waterstones.com/book/corona-false-alarm/karina-reiss/sucharit-bhakdi [Post edited 15 Jan 2021 11:37]
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| Face masks on 11:49 - Jan 15 with 1077 views | onehunglow |
Are the doctors and nurses in IC treating patients via a book. | |
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| Face masks on 11:53 - Jan 15 with 1075 views | Catullus |
Hmmm, Riess is a biologist, Bhakdi a Microbiologist....is it relevant they are married? Probably not.
The book...false alarm...
Now here's my issue, this book is their opinion. I don't doubt their qualifications or experience but what are their motives for writing this book? Are they interested in the greater good or just doing something controversial to make a shedload of money?
Stats are there to be manipulated and misused, how can I be sure any stats in this book are not manipulated and misused?
I think actually, I'll stay away from this book. I doubt reading it is going to change very much and it certainly won't change the UK ruleswhich I'll still have to live by. | |
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| Face masks on 12:09 - Jan 15 with 1072 views | onehunglow |
Books are invariably about opinion.I m half way through "How to win friends and influence people" and whilst entertaining,I do not agree with much what Carnegie writes.
Nobody was ever fixed by a book
Life is about people,how they behave and how it affects others.
Right now, we are killing ourselves and far too many are in LaLa land | |
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| Face masks on 12:14 - Jan 15 with 1067 views | Neath_Jack |
| Face masks on 11:53 - Jan 15 by Catullus |
Hmmm, Riess is a biologist, Bhakdi a Microbiologist....is it relevant they are married? Probably not.
The book...false alarm...
Now here's my issue, this book is their opinion. I don't doubt their qualifications or experience but what are their motives for writing this book? Are they interested in the greater good or just doing something controversial to make a shedload of money?
Stats are there to be manipulated and misused, how can I be sure any stats in this book are not manipulated and misused?
I think actually, I'll stay away from this book. I doubt reading it is going to change very much and it certainly won't change the UK ruleswhich I'll still have to live by. |
The German non-profit Correctiv fact-checked one of Bhakdi's YouTube videos, and found a number of problematic claims, including the claim that any COVID-19 vaccine would be "pointless", and that the virus posed no more threat than influenza. Writing for Foreign Policy, Tyson Barker (Head of DGAP's Technology & Global Affairs Program) described Bhakdi as a prominent example from a "crop of debunked but credentialed so-called experts minting conspiracy theories and undermining fact-based information".
In October 2020 the University of Mainz issued a statement to the effect that it does not support Bhakdi's views | |
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| Face masks on 13:44 - Jan 15 with 1045 views | Catullus |
| Face masks on 12:14 - Jan 15 by Neath_Jack |
The German non-profit Correctiv fact-checked one of Bhakdi's YouTube videos, and found a number of problematic claims, including the claim that any COVID-19 vaccine would be "pointless", and that the virus posed no more threat than influenza. Writing for Foreign Policy, Tyson Barker (Head of DGAP's Technology & Global Affairs Program) described Bhakdi as a prominent example from a "crop of debunked but credentialed so-called experts minting conspiracy theories and undermining fact-based information".
In October 2020 the University of Mainz issued a statement to the effect that it does not support Bhakdi's views |
So it's something controversial to make a shedload of money then.
My son watched youtube a lot, his whole generation do. The number of lies, fake news stories and utter BS he has come down spouting is beyond.
Youtube is the perfect outlet for freaks and weirdos. for liars and deceivers. People think the mainstream news outlets are bad, youtube is beyond.
Debunked but credentialled, lots of them about. | |
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