| Lotto News on 12:11 - Aug 6 with 3031 views | Brierls |
"What prompted that decision to go direct debit only
The simple reason is that it will be more profitable for the club. The previous twelve months of Lotto saw a turnover of £165,000. This brought a return to the club of less than £20,000 when the expenses of prize money, salaries, agents, results sheets, fuel costs, banking charges and postage was taken off. Being direct debit only, the admin costs for the scheme are massively reduced. Given the number of people currently signed up, twelve months trading based on those numbers will see a considerably more profit to the club based on what is a projected £89,000 turnover from those who have signed up already. This is something that all parties are wanting to see increased. Supporters who are not yet signed up for it are requested to do so by the links at the bottom of this report."
If these numbers stack up (which I'm sure judd will do his best to disprove) then the club have made the correct decision. Albeit with terrible execution regarding the Goldbond agents.
Unfortunately we'll have to wait 12 months to get a true comparison. As it stands its figures vs projected figures (including costs). [Post edited 6 Aug 2020 12:28]
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| Lotto News on 12:47 - Aug 6 with 2947 views | judd |
| Lotto News on 12:11 - Aug 6 by Brierls |
"What prompted that decision to go direct debit only
The simple reason is that it will be more profitable for the club. The previous twelve months of Lotto saw a turnover of £165,000. This brought a return to the club of less than £20,000 when the expenses of prize money, salaries, agents, results sheets, fuel costs, banking charges and postage was taken off. Being direct debit only, the admin costs for the scheme are massively reduced. Given the number of people currently signed up, twelve months trading based on those numbers will see a considerably more profit to the club based on what is a projected £89,000 turnover from those who have signed up already. This is something that all parties are wanting to see increased. Supporters who are not yet signed up for it are requested to do so by the links at the bottom of this report."
If these numbers stack up (which I'm sure judd will do his best to disprove) then the club have made the correct decision. Albeit with terrible execution regarding the Goldbond agents.
Unfortunately we'll have to wait 12 months to get a true comparison. As it stands its figures vs projected figures (including costs). [Post edited 6 Aug 2020 12:28]
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| Lotto News on 15:36 - Sep 2 with 2577 views | kel |
I think it is.
When Chalks signed up for the lotto he was sent a club key ring which was no use to him obviously so he messaged me asking if one of my lads would like it. He posted it to me at his own expense and my lad loves it and has it on his school bag.
Glad to see he’s won summat even if it’s a small amount. He can still fook off though. [Post edited 2 Sep 2020 15:37]
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| Lotto News on 17:25 - Sep 2 with 2446 views | ncfc_chalky |
Woo hoo!
Yeah that's me,my next move will be for the top prize  |  |
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| Lotto News on 17:32 - Sep 2 with 2429 views | DaleiLama |
| Lotto News on 17:25 - Sep 2 by ncfc_chalky |
Woo hoo!
Yeah that's me,my next move will be for the top prize |
That's the Leffe, the Wheat Beer and the DRK ISLD RSRV paid for (or you could say FOC?!?) and a quid off the Stingo. Alternatively you could buy a bottle of Champagne with your winnings, but you'd still be belching by Christmas if you drink that now. |  |
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| Lotto News on 17:42 - Sep 2 with 2406 views | ncfc_chalky |
| Lotto News on 17:32 - Sep 2 by DaleiLama |
That's the Leffe, the Wheat Beer and the DRK ISLD RSRV paid for (or you could say FOC?!?) and a quid off the Stingo. Alternatively you could buy a bottle of Champagne with your winnings, but you'd still be belching by Christmas if you drink that now. |
Yeah you're right DL,that's paid for the real ale,I never check the results of the lotto so thanks to James for mentioning it 😎 | |
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| Lotto News on 18:22 - Sep 2 with 2351 views | 56years |
| Lotto News on 12:11 - Aug 6 by Brierls |
"What prompted that decision to go direct debit only
The simple reason is that it will be more profitable for the club. The previous twelve months of Lotto saw a turnover of £165,000. This brought a return to the club of less than £20,000 when the expenses of prize money, salaries, agents, results sheets, fuel costs, banking charges and postage was taken off. Being direct debit only, the admin costs for the scheme are massively reduced. Given the number of people currently signed up, twelve months trading based on those numbers will see a considerably more profit to the club based on what is a projected £89,000 turnover from those who have signed up already. This is something that all parties are wanting to see increased. Supporters who are not yet signed up for it are requested to do so by the links at the bottom of this report."
If these numbers stack up (which I'm sure judd will do his best to disprove) then the club have made the correct decision. Albeit with terrible execution regarding the Goldbond agents.
Unfortunately we'll have to wait 12 months to get a true comparison. As it stands its figures vs projected figures (including costs). [Post edited 6 Aug 2020 12:28]
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There were those who said it would never get started, but mysteriously they have disappeared on this thread.......
Fully support it, my only complaint is that I haven’t won anything yet! |  | | |
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| Lotto News on 19:09 - Sep 2 with 2277 views | Thacks_Rabbits |
| Lotto News on 18:22 - Sep 2 by 56years |
There were those who said it would never get started, but mysteriously they have disappeared on this thread.......
Fully support it, my only complaint is that I haven’t won anything yet! |
Well done chalky!
Don’t think anyone ever said it would not get started, if they did, then I stand corrected.
I think many questioned its profitability and overall impact compared to the regular face to face meetings with goldbond agents. |  |
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| Lotto News on 21:24 - Sep 2 with 2151 views | judd |
| Lotto News on 18:22 - Sep 2 by 56years |
There were those who said it would never get started, but mysteriously they have disappeared on this thread.......
Fully support it, my only complaint is that I haven’t won anything yet! |
😂😂😂
I've been pondering the word patience. [Post edited 2 Sep 2020 21:27]
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| Lotto News on 21:55 - Sep 2 with 2100 views | SuddenLad |
| Lotto News on 17:25 - Sep 2 by ncfc_chalky |
Woo hoo!
Yeah that's me,my next move will be for the top prize |
You could fund a couple of players with that Chalky. Your mates at Meadow Lane would be overwhelmed by your generosity. I feel a statue coming on..... |  |
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| Lotto News on 17:41 - Sep 3 with 1937 views | Reedy |
| Lotto News on 18:22 - Sep 2 by 56years |
There were those who said it would never get started, but mysteriously they have disappeared on this thread.......
Fully support it, my only complaint is that I haven’t won anything yet! |
I didn’t question if it would get started, more the profitability of the new scheme.
284 old goldbond members signed up out of 5,500.
There were roughly 500 people on the old direct debit system, some paying £1 and some £2.
Across 784 if you say half pay £2 and half pay £1 that would equal £1,962 per week coming into the club.
The prizes have been vastly reduced to £350 per week from £1,000 per week. This doesn’t include the £1,000 prize, as this rolls over if it’s not won.
You’ve then got 20% going to charity, which is £392 per week.
Which leaves you with £1,220 per week. This is before outside parties take their cut, meaning it will certainly be less than £1,000.
I do wonder what will happen when the advance payers from the old goldbond system (of which I had quite a lot) fall off when they’re money runs out.
The club under the new system, never, ever canvassed for agents. In hindsight it was fully in the knowledge that this would one day come to pass, and we would be surplus to requirements. I was listening to a podcast the other day, and someone said the virus has accelerated a lot of companies plans in terms of staffing, and this is one of them.
In the original statement the club stated some of the costs:
Prize money - granted, now considerably lower.
Salaries - used to have three full time staff members, went to one full time and one part time, that would’ve been a considerable saving.
Agents - took 15%, 5% less than goes to charity and we don’t know how much outside parties get.
Results sheets - paid for by advertising on the reverse side
Fuel costs - will be lower now given there is no staff!
Banking charges - will be lower by going to direct debit, but it won’t be nothing
Postage - the club must’ve spent thousands on postage to all old goldbond members, and to get a such a poor return must’ve been damning to them.
As someone said earlier in the thread, the proof will be in the numbers next year, but I don’t think for one minute any of us have been told the full story, and if I’m completely honest, it still annoys me, not only how it was done but also I genuinely enjoyed doing it. The worst part is that the club no longer has that link to people who have a passing interest in football or sport in the local community, and that is criminal. | |
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| Lotto News on 18:00 - Sep 3 with 1885 views | SuddenLad |
Has Mr. Parry left the building? | |
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| Lotto News on 18:07 - Sep 3 with 1873 views | judd |
| Lotto News on 18:00 - Sep 3 by SuddenLad |
Has Mr. Parry left the building? |
I believe so. I read on another platform he was going 31st August. | |
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| Lotto News on 18:10 - Sep 3 with 1857 views | SuddenLad |
| Lotto News on 18:07 - Sep 3 by judd |
I believe so. I read on another platform he was going 31st August. |
Cost cutting measure I presume. He always seemed to be doing his best to promote the lottery as far as I could tell. Always available, upfront and ever-present on matchdays, selling tickets as well. Good luck to him. | |
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| Lotto News on 18:51 - Sep 3 with 1819 views | Statzdale |
| Lotto News on 17:41 - Sep 3 by Reedy |
I didn’t question if it would get started, more the profitability of the new scheme.
284 old goldbond members signed up out of 5,500.
There were roughly 500 people on the old direct debit system, some paying £1 and some £2.
Across 784 if you say half pay £2 and half pay £1 that would equal £1,962 per week coming into the club.
The prizes have been vastly reduced to £350 per week from £1,000 per week. This doesn’t include the £1,000 prize, as this rolls over if it’s not won.
You’ve then got 20% going to charity, which is £392 per week.
Which leaves you with £1,220 per week. This is before outside parties take their cut, meaning it will certainly be less than £1,000.
I do wonder what will happen when the advance payers from the old goldbond system (of which I had quite a lot) fall off when they’re money runs out.
The club under the new system, never, ever canvassed for agents. In hindsight it was fully in the knowledge that this would one day come to pass, and we would be surplus to requirements. I was listening to a podcast the other day, and someone said the virus has accelerated a lot of companies plans in terms of staffing, and this is one of them.
In the original statement the club stated some of the costs:
Prize money - granted, now considerably lower.
Salaries - used to have three full time staff members, went to one full time and one part time, that would’ve been a considerable saving.
Agents - took 15%, 5% less than goes to charity and we don’t know how much outside parties get.
Results sheets - paid for by advertising on the reverse side
Fuel costs - will be lower now given there is no staff!
Banking charges - will be lower by going to direct debit, but it won’t be nothing
Postage - the club must’ve spent thousands on postage to all old goldbond members, and to get a such a poor return must’ve been damning to them.
As someone said earlier in the thread, the proof will be in the numbers next year, but I don’t think for one minute any of us have been told the full story, and if I’m completely honest, it still annoys me, not only how it was done but also I genuinely enjoyed doing it. The worst part is that the club no longer has that link to people who have a passing interest in football or sport in the local community, and that is criminal. |
Great post Reedy The community link now severed, will be almost impossible to get back. Most of my Goldbond customers didn’t attend games in fact it was only two out of 100 customers to my knowledge did.
The ones I see in Milnrow say how much they miss our weekly chats and it was the reason they did Goldbond. They supported the agent, not necessarily the club. And to most of the elderly people I was probably the only person they spoke too face to face that week.
They were all disgusted how I was treated and stated that if the rounds were reinstated and I was collecting to give them a knock and they would rejoin, but were not interested in doing it by DD. I’m sure lots of other former agents received similar feedback. I miss my rounds so much as I thoroughly enjoyed doing them. Maybe that’s why I did it for over 15 years. [Post edited 3 Sep 2020 19:15]
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| Lotto News on 19:11 - Sep 10 with 1584 views | ncfc_chalky |
Well it's been over a week since I won twenty sovs on the lotto and not so much as a sniff of it entering into my bank account,how long does it take to put £20 back into the account that they take out of every month?
It smells of a scam and I'm it's poor innocent victim,I didn't get this from Notts Lifeline when I won a tenner,it was in the next day
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| Lotto News on 19:34 - Sep 10 with 1556 views | James1980 |
When I won £20 on goldbond the I received a note in the post. | |
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| Lotto News on 19:36 - Sep 10 with 1550 views | ncfc_chalky |
| Lotto News on 19:34 - Sep 10 by James1980 |
When I won £20 on goldbond the I received a note in the post. |
A note in the post?
Don't they have online banking in Rochdale or is the lotto run by Samuel Smith? | |
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| Lotto News on 19:37 - Sep 10 with 1550 views | SuddenLad |
| Lotto News on 19:34 - Sep 10 by James1980 |
When I won £20 on goldbond the I received a note in the post. |
What did it say? | |
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| Lotto News on 19:42 - Sep 10 with 1540 views | James1980 |
| Lotto News on 19:37 - Sep 10 by SuddenLad |
What did it say? |
I promise to pay the bearer the sum of twenty pounds. Pic of Our Lizzie the 2nd on it. | |
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| Lotto News on 19:49 - Sep 10 with 1518 views | SuddenLad |
| Lotto News on 19:42 - Sep 10 by James1980 |
I promise to pay the bearer the sum of twenty pounds. Pic of Our Lizzie the 2nd on it. |
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| Lotto News on 13:48 - Sep 16 with 1222 views | ncfc_chalky |
I received a cheque through the post today for the £20 win but it was made out to 'Chalky' so may that be a lesson to you if you ever think about being clever  ,
Anyway I'm gonna return it and ask for the money to go to a charity local to Rochdale,any suggestions? | |
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| Lotto News on 14:02 - Sep 16 with 1182 views | judd |
| Lotto News on 13:48 - Sep 16 by ncfc_chalky |
I received a cheque through the post today for the £20 win but it was made out to 'Chalky' so may that be a lesson to you if you ever think about being clever ,
Anyway I'm gonna return it and ask for the money to go to a charity local to Rochdale,any suggestions? |
A cheque?????????
All this bollox about modern means of payment and you get a cheque?
Springhill Hospice is a worthy local cause, Chalky lad. | |
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| Lotto News on 14:09 - Sep 16 with 1161 views | ncfc_chalky |
| Lotto News on 14:02 - Sep 16 by judd |
A cheque?????????
All this bollox about modern means of payment and you get a cheque?
Springhill Hospice is a worthy local cause, Chalky lad. |
Thanks judd,I shall pop a letter in the post tomorrow  | |
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