| Next Season 14:53 - Apr 4 with 16859 views | Yossarian |
Apparently:
The Academy is being cut back to Tier 3
All Youth coaches will be part-time
The kids will be back at Llandarcy or the Elba and the First team back at Landore
Fairwood is being offloaded back to the University....or another buyer like a Health Club chain
They can’t afford to pay McBurnie’s bonus for scoring so he’s being used sparingly
Most of the young players who have come through this season are being lined up for transfers
If Potter gets an offer, he will be off because it will involve a compensation payment.
We are in a battle for survival. I am depressed. Shades of 1982 all over again.
How on earth did it come to this?
[Post edited 4 Apr 2019 14:55]
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| Next Season on 15:02 - Apr 4 with 7380 views | Thornburyswan |
Wow I really hope you are our 'chicken little' with the sky is falling theme but I guess time will tell, first test will be to see if Socks starts on Saturday.
Not sure why we'd have bothered to appoint a new Chairman if things are/were that bad but then what do I know! |  | | |
| Next Season on 15:04 - Apr 4 with 7364 views | 34dfgdf54 |
Well that made for pleasant reading on a Thursday afternoon. |  | | |
| Next Season on 15:04 - Apr 4 with 7361 views | jasper_T |
Chairman only started work today but every decision already been made, apparently. | | | |
| Next Season on 15:05 - Apr 4 with 7355 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Next Season on 15:04 - Apr 4 by jasper_T |
Chairman only started work today but every decision already been made, apparently. |
Decisions about redundancies were made before his appointment too. | | | |
| Next Season on 15:12 - Apr 4 with 7314 views | jasper_T |
| Next Season on 15:05 - Apr 4 by 34dfgdf54 |
Decisions about redundancies were made before his appointment too. |
A warning letter was issued as a first step in the process. Nothing nearly final. | | | |
| Next Season on 15:23 - Apr 4 with 7259 views | Glyn1 |
"Apparently:"
Source? Just in general like. [Post edited 4 Apr 2019 15:27]
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| Next Season on 15:28 - Apr 4 with 7242 views | jacktar |
| Next Season on 15:23 - Apr 4 by Glyn1 |
"Apparently:"
Source? Just in general like. [Post edited 4 Apr 2019 15:27]
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You beat me to it Glyn.
Probably a friend of a friend of mine who's close to the club.
Rumours abound at the moment I'm afraid. |  |
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| Next Season on 15:41 - Apr 4 with 7190 views | bluey_the_blue |
The bit problem will be if your Academy cuts back to tier 3.
Guess how much we got for Matondo when he left Man City - fvck all. Man CIty poached him and paid a pittance, kept all the profit selling him on. | | | |
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| Next Season on 15:53 - Apr 4 with 7145 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Next Season on 15:41 - Apr 4 by bluey_the_blue |
The bit problem will be if your Academy cuts back to tier 3.
Guess how much we got for Matondo when he left Man City - fvck all. Man CIty poached him and paid a pittance, kept all the profit selling him on. |
Did not know Mason do played for our Academy. Thought he was from Cardiff's Academy. | |
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| Next Season on 15:55 - Apr 4 with 7133 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Next Season on 15:53 - Apr 4 by felixstowe_jack |
Did not know Mason do played for our Academy. Thought he was from Cardiff's Academy. |
He was.
I'm pointing out that without your academy being at the top level, you too will get raided by top level academies. | | | |
| Next Season on 16:04 - Apr 4 with 7093 views | Wingstandwood |
#next level |  |
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| Next Season on 16:16 - Apr 4 with 7051 views | Vincent_Vega |
Though it cannot be proven to be true until late summer what's more depressing is that some if not all of this is very believable.
If this keeps the club afloat we have no choice, unfortunately |  |
| Boycott Shampoo......Demand Real Poo!!! |
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| Next Season on 16:36 - Apr 4 with 6974 views | karnataka |
| Next Season on 16:16 - Apr 4 by Vincent_Vega |
Though it cannot be proven to be true until late summer what's more depressing is that some if not all of this is very believable.
If this keeps the club afloat we have no choice, unfortunately |
We have no choice because of choices made in the past. This hasn't happened for no reason. |  | | |
| Next Season on 16:39 - Apr 4 with 6968 views | andypitt56 |
Id be surprised if they want to cut it down that much, when its quite clear that the reason we have players of value is due to it. Surely in the long run even if they plan to sell a lot of players keeping the academy is vital?? | | | |
| Next Season on 17:03 - Apr 4 with 6891 views | jasper_T |
| Next Season on 16:39 - Apr 4 by andypitt56 |
Id be surprised if they want to cut it down that much, when its quite clear that the reason we have players of value is due to it. Surely in the long run even if they plan to sell a lot of players keeping the academy is vital?? |
According to the op they're keeping the academy, just running it closer to how it was prior to the 15/16 season (when we started playing Cat One fixtures, although officially we didn't gain the full status until June 2016). | | | |
| Next Season on 17:41 - Apr 4 with 6772 views | pencoedbuffoon |
League 1 here we come.....👀🤔 | | | |
| Next Season on 17:51 - Apr 4 with 6744 views | Fireboy2 |
| Next Season on 17:41 - Apr 4 by pencoedbuffoon |
League 1 here we come.....👀🤔 |
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| Next Season on 17:56 - Apr 4 with 6718 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Next Season on 17:41 - Apr 4 by pencoedbuffoon |
League 1 here we come.....👀🤔 |
Not even your lot can fall two divisions in one go you big buffoon. |  |
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| Next Season on 18:25 - Apr 4 with 6607 views | Vincent_Vega |
| Next Season on 16:36 - Apr 4 by karnataka |
We have no choice because of choices made in the past. This hasn't happened for no reason. |
100%
If the club was run better from before and after the sale even if we got relegated we wouldn’t of needed to do any of this.
Like I said if. | |
| Boycott Shampoo......Demand Real Poo!!! |
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| Next Season on 19:09 - Apr 4 with 6492 views | Oldjack |
All will be revealed this summer |  |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Next Season on 19:10 - Apr 4 with 6486 views | Al_Bundy |
The main culprit for this is benefitting from his wealth at the expense of a lot of people now sadly. | | | |
| Next Season on 19:16 - Apr 4 with 6460 views | LeonWasGod |
| Next Season on 16:39 - Apr 4 by andypitt56 |
Id be surprised if they want to cut it down that much, when its quite clear that the reason we have players of value is due to it. Surely in the long run even if they plan to sell a lot of players keeping the academy is vital?? |
Bean counters will be making the decisions. What may or may not make sense from a footballing side will probably have little to do with it. |  | | |
| Next Season on 19:36 - Apr 4 with 6389 views | Glyn1 |
| Next Season on 19:16 - Apr 4 by LeonWasGod |
Bean counters will be making the decisions. What may or may not make sense from a footballing side will probably have little to do with it. |
Exactly right. I'm sure we all know firms where the management went for short-term gains rather than working for the long term - took their profit / bonuses and bailed out quickly, leaving others to clear up the resulting mess. | |
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| Next Season on 20:24 - Apr 4 with 6258 views | majorraglan |
The Academy is the future of the club, every effort should be made to retain it at the highest level possible. There was talk on here yesterday about Cabango being sold for £2.5m, one of him every year and the academy would be paying for itself. The club’s major assets, Rodon, James, Roberts, McBurnie have all spent time playing in the Academy structure, there’s potentially £15m to £20m there, maybe a lot more. If they can get the Ayew’s and Baston off the books and some wedge in, then that will help. | | | |
| Next Season on 20:46 - Apr 4 with 6202 views | jasper_T |
| Next Season on 20:24 - Apr 4 by majorraglan |
The Academy is the future of the club, every effort should be made to retain it at the highest level possible. There was talk on here yesterday about Cabango being sold for £2.5m, one of him every year and the academy would be paying for itself. The club’s major assets, Rodon, James, Roberts, McBurnie have all spent time playing in the Academy structure, there’s potentially £15m to £20m there, maybe a lot more. If they can get the Ayew’s and Baston off the books and some wedge in, then that will help. |
Sunderland said their Cat One academy cost £4m a year to run, plus wages of the players which at the moment must run us over £1m a year, plus the cost of bringing in the players that have allowed us to compete at this level (McBurnie £300k, similar for each of the Falkirk crew etc.) £2.5m a year doesn't cover it. And Sunderland weren't selling an Asoro every year from theirs.
Clubs in this division without top level academies already make operational losses in the tens of millions that need to be covered by player sales. Add in the cost of an academy and you place a huge onus on constantly selling products, or racking up significant debt.
With our players potentially spending less time in development football now due to the increased opportunity for senior games (Brandon Cooper made his debut in the League Cup 6 or 7 months after his u23s debut as an extreme example) it's worth thinking about the relative value of that spending. Cat Three might save the club £3m a year and still allow for players like Joe Allen, Ben Davies and Connor Roberts to come through (Rodon would likely have been poached). That's 10-20% of a typical Championship club's turnover, compared to 2-3% in the PL when players were staying in the u23s squad (and on the books) until they were 22/23/24. | | | |
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