| Taylor 16:05 - Dec 23 with 10901 views | deanscfc |
Curtis just said that he'd been our player of the year so far and this is why Tabanou hadn't been given any time at all. I know there's not a lot to choose from right now but I nearly spat my coffee over the PC. Surely I'm not the only one who thinks we need more quality...pace, crossing ability etc at left back?? |  | | |  |
| Taylor on 11:33 - Jan 7 with 1198 views | deanscfc |
http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/Franck-Tabanou-hopes-new-manager-improve
"Tabanou was supposed to provide competition for Neil Taylor on one side of the Swansea defence.
But Taylor has been in outstanding form so far this season and Tabanou has hardly featured."
Just an update - The press have confirmed that Taylor has in fact been in absolutely outstanding form this season and anything to the contrary was just all my imagination. Tabanou should consider himself lucky to even still be on the books. | | | |
| Taylor on 11:37 - Jan 7 with 1176 views | jack247 |
| Taylor on 11:33 - Jan 7 by deanscfc |
http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/Franck-Tabanou-hopes-new-manager-improve
"Tabanou was supposed to provide competition for Neil Taylor on one side of the Swansea defence.
But Taylor has been in outstanding form so far this season and Tabanou has hardly featured."
Just an update - The press have confirmed that Taylor has in fact been in absolutely outstanding form this season and anything to the contrary was just all my imagination. Tabanou should consider himself lucky to even still be on the books. |
Looks like it's just the press, both this seasons managers, Huw Jenkins and most of the posters on here disagreeing with you then Dean. | | | |
| Taylor on 11:44 - Jan 7 with 1148 views | deanscfc |
| Taylor on 11:37 - Jan 7 by jack247 |
Looks like it's just the press, both this seasons managers, Huw Jenkins and most of the posters on here disagreeing with you then Dean. |
Apparently so. well there are a minority here who also agree with me but anyway..
Either I am completely wrong and or all these people are slightly biased towards Neil because he is Welsh. Personally, some of the things I have read about Montero, Gomis, Ayew, Shelvey, Fernandez, Naughton etc etc...are pretty harsh considering that the poor performances by Taylor go completely unnoticed. | | | |
| Taylor on 11:56 - Jan 7 with 1116 views | jack247 |
| Taylor on 11:44 - Jan 7 by deanscfc |
Apparently so. well there are a minority here who also agree with me but anyway..
Either I am completely wrong and or all these people are slightly biased towards Neil because he is Welsh. Personally, some of the things I have read about Montero, Gomis, Ayew, Shelvey, Fernandez, Naughton etc etc...are pretty harsh considering that the poor performances by Taylor go completely unnoticed. |
It's not because he is Welsh, it's because he is consistent. If you are expecting him to be Roberto Carlos, then yes, he is going to disappoint you.
I do agree that some of the criticism of some of our players is over the top. Don't think Taylor has put in many bad performances though. He is pretty much the only player bar our captain and keeper (possibly Ayew, I can't remember) who hasn't been dropped. | | | |
| Taylor on 12:03 - Jan 7 with 1101 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Taylor is average ,dreadfully average , saying that the whole squad has been this season .
We were spoilt with Ben , who suited us with Laudrup's all out attack & Taylor couldn't get a sniff of a game .
He then suited Monks sousa's approach to tactics .
He just defends you won't get much more out of him . |  |
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| Taylor on 12:08 - Jan 7 with 1113 views | deanscfc |
| Taylor on 11:56 - Jan 7 by jack247 |
It's not because he is Welsh, it's because he is consistent. If you are expecting him to be Roberto Carlos, then yes, he is going to disappoint you.
I do agree that some of the criticism of some of our players is over the top. Don't think Taylor has put in many bad performances though. He is pretty much the only player bar our captain and keeper (possibly Ayew, I can't remember) who hasn't been dropped. |
Consistently ok in defence and non existent going forward (at a time when we really need to be creating more) I would say.
Don't you think 'outstanding' is a bit of an overstatement? Honestly, the plaudits he is getting baffles me... I really think that if we go down then our weakness at full back (in addition to the stiker role obviously) will have been a big part of it. | | | |
| Taylor on 12:24 - Jan 7 with 1082 views | jack247 |
| Taylor on 12:08 - Jan 7 by deanscfc |
Consistently ok in defence and non existent going forward (at a time when we really need to be creating more) I would say.
Don't you think 'outstanding' is a bit of an overstatement? Honestly, the plaudits he is getting baffles me... I really think that if we go down then our weakness at full back (in addition to the stiker role obviously) will have been a big part of it. |
Yeah, outstanding is a bit strong I agree. Solid would probably have been a better description. Did the SWEP actually say Tabanou was lucky to be on the books, or did you make that bit up?
He has always been a scapegoat because he is a reliable player rather than a flair player and he is unlikely to do anything sensational in a game, he just does his job well. He has gone under the radar a bit this season, because Gomis and latterly Shelvey have taken a lot of the flack. He will always have his detractors though, for being a defensive minded defender.
Do you really think we need an attack minded full back playing behind Ayew or Montero? We would get absolutely roasted down that side. | | | |
| Taylor on 12:31 - Jan 7 with 1063 views | raynor94 |
| Taylor on 11:33 - Jan 7 by deanscfc |
http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/Franck-Tabanou-hopes-new-manager-improve
"Tabanou was supposed to provide competition for Neil Taylor on one side of the Swansea defence.
But Taylor has been in outstanding form so far this season and Tabanou has hardly featured."
Just an update - The press have confirmed that Taylor has in fact been in absolutely outstanding form this season and anything to the contrary was just all my imagination. Tabanou should consider himself lucky to even still be on the books. |
And you feel the need to bring it up again? You really are in minority, Taylor has had a solid season, seems like hell of a lot of others think so to |  |
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| Taylor on 12:47 - Jan 7 with 1028 views | Neath_Jack |
| Taylor on 11:33 - Jan 7 by deanscfc |
http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/Franck-Tabanou-hopes-new-manager-improve
"Tabanou was supposed to provide competition for Neil Taylor on one side of the Swansea defence.
But Taylor has been in outstanding form so far this season and Tabanou has hardly featured."
Just an update - The press have confirmed that Taylor has in fact been in absolutely outstanding form this season and anything to the contrary was just all my imagination. Tabanou should consider himself lucky to even still be on the books. |
"Tabanou should consider himself lucky to even still be on the books."
Believe me, that quote is absolutely bang on the money. And its nothing to do with how well Taylor has been playing either. |  |
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| Taylor on 12:50 - Jan 7 with 1012 views | perchrockjack |
What is brought up on here is the endless tedious "support" of players who are, god help them, criticised. I doubt this support is even noticed by the players.
Neil Taylor is nothing special but he s honest and a bit of a warrior to be fair.
However, one would think by now, he d be able to be of some use going forward.
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| Taylor on 12:51 - Jan 7 with 1008 views | Joe_bradshaw |
Taylor has been consistently solid all season playing most games towards the top end of his capabilities which is testament to his professionalism.
Having said that, the fact that Neil is a serious contender for player of the season (which he is), tells us a lot about how poor we've been. |  |
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| Taylor on 12:53 - Jan 7 with 1002 views | karnataka |
| Taylor on 12:08 - Jan 7 by deanscfc |
Consistently ok in defence and non existent going forward (at a time when we really need to be creating more) I would say.
Don't you think 'outstanding' is a bit of an overstatement? Honestly, the plaudits he is getting baffles me... I really think that if we go down then our weakness at full back (in addition to the stiker role obviously) will have been a big part of it. |
"at a time when we really need to be creating more"
In midfield and wide positions, we have the captain of South Korea, an England international, an Icelandic international, an Ecuadorian international and a Ghanaian international and you put all the blame for our lack of creativity on our leftback who has been defending like a warrior at times these last few weeks. Hmmmmm, no further comment m'Lud. |  | | |
| Taylor on 12:55 - Jan 7 with 995 views | perchrockjack |
"All" .where he say that | |
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| Taylor on 12:56 - Jan 7 with 994 views | FatherJack |
| Taylor on 12:24 - Jan 7 by jack247 |
Yeah, outstanding is a bit strong I agree. Solid would probably have been a better description. Did the SWEP actually say Tabanou was lucky to be on the books, or did you make that bit up?
He has always been a scapegoat because he is a reliable player rather than a flair player and he is unlikely to do anything sensational in a game, he just does his job well. He has gone under the radar a bit this season, because Gomis and latterly Shelvey have taken a lot of the flack. He will always have his detractors though, for being a defensive minded defender.
Do you really think we need an attack minded full back playing behind Ayew or Montero? We would get absolutely roasted down that side. |
Yes, but the problem is that we try to use him in attacks and he's almost completely incapable of playing a forward pass successfully. Watch him - back or sideways fine, ask him to pass forward or cross - goes straight to the opposition. If we're going to attempt to attack down that channel (and we regularly do) then we need a player in that position who can do what the team require of him.
Maybe coaching from a new manager could improve his attacking abilities. Thing is, he tends to use his arse a lot in his defence technique, not sure how he could incorporate that part of his anatomy in attack. |  |
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| Taylor on 12:57 - Jan 7 with 988 views | deanscfc |
| Taylor on 12:47 - Jan 7 by Neath_Jack |
"Tabanou should consider himself lucky to even still be on the books."
Believe me, that quote is absolutely bang on the money. And its nothing to do with how well Taylor has been playing either. |
why? because he spoke in the press about being disappointed for not playing, or something else? | | | |
| Taylor on 12:58 - Jan 7 with 985 views | perchrockjack |
Exactly.
In an advanced position what does he do.
Pass back or sideways | |
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| Taylor on 12:59 - Jan 7 with 981 views | deanscfc |
| Taylor on 12:56 - Jan 7 by FatherJack |
Yes, but the problem is that we try to use him in attacks and he's almost completely incapable of playing a forward pass successfully. Watch him - back or sideways fine, ask him to pass forward or cross - goes straight to the opposition. If we're going to attempt to attack down that channel (and we regularly do) then we need a player in that position who can do what the team require of him.
Maybe coaching from a new manager could improve his attacking abilities. Thing is, he tends to use his arse a lot in his defence technique, not sure how he could incorporate that part of his anatomy in attack. |
Exactly. | | | |
| Taylor on 13:02 - Jan 7 with 976 views | jack247 |
| Taylor on 12:51 - Jan 7 by Joe_bradshaw |
Taylor has been consistently solid all season playing most games towards the top end of his capabilities which is testament to his professionalism.
Having said that, the fact that Neil is a serious contender for player of the season (which he is), tells us a lot about how poor we've been. |
Would agree with that. He isn't a world beater, never will be. Puts in a decent shift week in week out, that's about it. If we were having a decent season he wouldn't be in the reckoning for player of the year | | | |
| Taylor on 13:09 - Jan 7 with 943 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
| Taylor on 12:58 - Jan 7 by perchrockjack |
Exactly.
In an advanced position what does he do.
Pass back or sideways |
Have to be fair to him he has overlapped numerous times this season with only 1 option to hit in the box, no wonder he pauses to wait for supporting midfielders who if tracked become unavailable
Think its more of a tactics issue as Beckham aside the percentages suggest he is unlikely to hit a stationary Gomis |  |
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| Taylor on 13:11 - Jan 7 with 942 views | PapaLazarou |
Surely we have to give Tabanou a run out on Sunday to see what he can do?!
Taylor has 1 assist and 0 goals in 5.5 years for Swansea - does nobody else think this is an issue?! |  | | |
| Taylor on 13:39 - Jan 7 with 866 views | lovejuicejack |
| Taylor on 13:11 - Jan 7 by PapaLazarou |
Surely we have to give Tabanou a run out on Sunday to see what he can do?!
Taylor has 1 assist and 0 goals in 5.5 years for Swansea - does nobody else think this is an issue?! |
Nah he's mint mun, player of the season |  | | |
| Taylor on 13:55 - Jan 7 with 847 views | JJJack |
| Taylor on 21:00 - Dec 26 by jackrabbit |
Why not try Taylor at RB and Tabanou at LB? Taylor seems to be right footed anyway. |
"Taylor seems to be right footed anyway"
Jesus, please tell me you're on a wind-up? He can hardly stand on his right leg let alone put it to any footballing use. It has to be the worst right foot I've ever seen in a top flight player! |  | | |
| Taylor on 14:35 - Jan 7 with 810 views | karnataka |
Interesting Mr P, I was wondering whether or not to put that and whether or not anyone would comment. True, he doesn't say 'all' but then he doesn't blame anyone else specifically so it's open to interpretation. However, somewhere he does say "Personally, some of the things I have read about Montero, Gomis, Ayew, Shelvey, Fernandez, Naughton etc etc...are pretty harsh"[i/] so he specifically exonerates quite a few of them whilst still berating Taylor. So maybe not 'all' but how many more "etc, etc" covers is also open to interpretation. [Post edited 7 Jan 2016 14:41]
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| Taylor on 14:40 - Jan 7 with 805 views | jack247 |
| Taylor on 12:56 - Jan 7 by FatherJack |
Yes, but the problem is that we try to use him in attacks and he's almost completely incapable of playing a forward pass successfully. Watch him - back or sideways fine, ask him to pass forward or cross - goes straight to the opposition. If we're going to attempt to attack down that channel (and we regularly do) then we need a player in that position who can do what the team require of him.
Maybe coaching from a new manager could improve his attacking abilities. Thing is, he tends to use his arse a lot in his defence technique, not sure how he could incorporate that part of his anatomy in attack. |
We really haven't used him In attacks that much. Compare how often he is in possession in an advanced position to how often Rangel is. Makes sense not to, as it is not his strong point.
The new setup however, puts more emphasis on the full backs to attack as Leon splits the centre backs, which allows the full backs to push further up the pitch, plus they don't have a winger ahead of them as much as attacking midfielders inside of them. That may prove a challenge for Neil, as (as others have pointed out) his strength is in defending not attacking. | | | |
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