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Shelvey 15:29 - Nov 29 with 3936 viewsSgorioFruit

Dominant Swans off to an amazing start and find themselves 1-0 up.
Along comes Shelvey and undoes all our hard work.

Liabillity.
He doesn't fit our mindset nor team ethos.

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Shelvey on 15:36 - Nov 29 with 3080 viewsIslander

Totally.
Too daft
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Shelvey on 16:58 - Nov 29 with 2942 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Except of course it wasn't a Penalty.
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Shelvey on 17:01 - Nov 29 with 2917 viewsChrisSCFC

Wasn't a pen but he gave the ball away unnecessarily all game and missed a golden chance.
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Shelvey on 17:02 - Nov 29 with 2898 viewsMagicDaps

Shelvey had a very good game, essential in us keeping hold of the ball. I don't know how he can be blamed for yet another shocking refereeing decision.

Yes, he missed a chance he should have scored but so did Routledge who won't get scape goated.

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Shelvey on 17:03 - Nov 29 with 2891 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Shelvey on 16:58 - Nov 29 by A_Fans_Dad

Except of course it wasn't a Penalty.


It was indeed a dive. Yet Jonjo didn't even protest; in fact his body language looked pretty guilty.

Maybe we are getting too used to being screwed by the refs.

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Shelvey on 17:42 - Nov 29 with 2738 viewsParlay

Shelvey on 17:02 - Nov 29 by MagicDaps

Shelvey had a very good game, essential in us keeping hold of the ball. I don't know how he can be blamed for yet another shocking refereeing decision.

Yes, he missed a chance he should have scored but so did Routledge who won't get scape goated.


He did not have a good game, worst player on the pitch - but it wasn't a penalty so cant blame him for that it would be unfair. Just one of those games for Jonjo. The nature of his game is and will be quite hit and miss, this game was very much a miss.

Cant say anything about any of the others though, not much you can do against a side that doesnt want to play football.

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Shelvey on 17:42 - Nov 29 with 2738 viewsLeonisGod

Shelvey on 17:02 - Nov 29 by MagicDaps

Shelvey had a very good game, essential in us keeping hold of the ball. I don't know how he can be blamed for yet another shocking refereeing decision.

Yes, he missed a chance he should have scored but so did Routledge who won't get scape goated.


He had a very good 20 mins. Gave away the pen and never recovered imo. Should have been the first off.
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Shelvey on 18:11 - Nov 29 with 2656 viewsjohnlangy

Shelvey on 17:42 - Nov 29 by LeonisGod

He had a very good 20 mins. Gave away the pen and never recovered imo. Should have been the first off.


He looked completely unfit. I'm sure I could see a spare tyre round his waist. Generally slow and lethargic looking.
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Shelvey on 18:12 - Nov 29 with 2650 viewsParlay

Yup i said to my Mrs he looked like he'd piled on some weight around the midriff too.
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Shelvey on 19:02 - Nov 29 with 2494 viewsSwansNZ

Shelvey on 17:02 - Nov 29 by MagicDaps

Shelvey had a very good game, essential in us keeping hold of the ball. I don't know how he can be blamed for yet another shocking refereeing decision.

Yes, he missed a chance he should have scored but so did Routledge who won't get scape goated.


Not a penalty, so you can't really blame him for that.

I like Shelvey, but he was crap today, we should have subbed on Carroll early in the second half, IMO.

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Shelvey on 19:04 - Nov 29 with 2484 viewsOldjack

Shelvey on 19:02 - Nov 29 by SwansNZ

Not a penalty, so you can't really blame him for that.

I like Shelvey, but he was crap today, we should have subbed on Carroll early in the second half, IMO.


he was crap today i must admit ,needs a time on the bench, perhaps that'll bring a spring back into his step

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Shelvey on 19:07 - Nov 29 with 2460 viewsThe_Doorman

Shelvey on 19:04 - Nov 29 by Oldjack

he was crap today i must admit ,needs a time on the bench, perhaps that'll bring a spring back into his step


Too lazy off the ball and lack of desire to track back. Needs a size 10 up his hoop!

I agree some bench time is needed. We cannot carry passengers like him.
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Shelvey on 19:10 - Nov 29 with 2447 viewslegoman

IMHO he has become a liability. Whether it was a penalty or not is immaterial to me - he's one of those players refs now know has a hot head.

Plus, he seemed to wander around looking disinterested to me. He may not feel that way but its certainly the impression he gives.

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Shelvey on 19:34 - Nov 29 with 2362 viewsMusical_Swan

Always been a huge faj of Jonjo's, now, due to circumstances beyond my control, I'd ha a few too many sherberts before today's game too remember any of it. It still pains me to say he feels oike the week chain in the squad at the mo though.

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Shelvey on 19:41 - Nov 29 with 2328 viewsbargoedjack

from where I was sat, Jonjo did some things very well and missed a sitter. He sprayed the ball around well by and large, won some good balls in midfield and was unlucky not to score after the chest down and quick shot, forcing a good save.

There was a period in the second half in particular where he instigated some of our better attacking play with break ups in midfield and intelligent use of the ball ...

Best player on the pitch today? No.

Total liability? Crap? Definitely not.
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Shelvey on 19:41 - Nov 29 with 2328 viewsJackfath

JJS is not very clever. He needs to shape up big time.

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Shelvey on 19:46 - Nov 29 with 2302 viewsMusical_Swan

Shelvey on 19:41 - Nov 29 by bargoedjack

from where I was sat, Jonjo did some things very well and missed a sitter. He sprayed the ball around well by and large, won some good balls in midfield and was unlucky not to score after the chest down and quick shot, forcing a good save.

There was a period in the second half in particular where he instigated some of our better attacking play with break ups in midfield and intelligent use of the ball ...

Best player on the pitch today? No.

Total liability? Crap? Definitely not.


For me, the way Jonjo plays is vital for us, he gives us more options going forward, and can do the 'ugly stuff' well too.

Just not consistent enough for us at the moment, and I'm running out of patience rapidly.

Loves him though!

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Shelvey on 19:54 - Nov 29 with 2261 viewsbargoedjack

Shelvey on 19:46 - Nov 29 by Musical_Swan

For me, the way Jonjo plays is vital for us, he gives us more options going forward, and can do the 'ugly stuff' well too.

Just not consistent enough for us at the moment, and I'm running out of patience rapidly.

Loves him though!


Fair analysis of JJS I guess at the moment. He is getting better over time though.

It's been 4 weeks since he last started for us, hasn't it? He usually gets better with a run of games ... though you're right about consistency. I'd keep playing him though - worth persevering with the mistakes and unlike Mr Carroll, he is our player.
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Shelvey on 20:02 - Nov 29 with 2228 viewsMusical_Swan

Shelvey on 19:54 - Nov 29 by bargoedjack

Fair analysis of JJS I guess at the moment. He is getting better over time though.

It's been 4 weeks since he last started for us, hasn't it? He usually gets better with a run of games ... though you're right about consistency. I'd keep playing him though - worth persevering with the mistakes and unlike Mr Carroll, he is our player.


This has always been my point of view, but a fter a skinfull this afternoon, and even after dabbing out a nice fat one, I still can't get out of my head, that while the rest of the squad seem to be progressing, he seems to be regressing. So frustrated!!!!

Time for another jabba methinks!

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Shelvey on 20:29 - Nov 29 with 2155 viewsOldjack

He needs too get his head up ,puff his chest out ,and play as if he's enjoying it the miserable twa*

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Shelvey on 20:34 - Nov 29 with 2136 viewsScoobyWho

I can see JJS leaving us in the summer.

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Shelvey on 20:51 - Nov 29 with 2071 viewscontroversial_jack

I was looking for the his on switch
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Shelvey on 21:27 - Nov 29 with 2006 viewsymaohyd

Shelvey on 17:02 - Nov 29 by MagicDaps

Shelvey had a very good game, essential in us keeping hold of the ball. I don't know how he can be blamed for yet another shocking refereeing decision.

Yes, he missed a chance he should have scored but so did Routledge who won't get scape goated.


With respect you are clueless.

I'd love him to do well, he has the talent but unfortunately something isn't right,

If that little something was right he'd be one of the first on Roy Hodgson's team list. Unfortunately many players over the years come into that category.

Persevere all you like it aint going to happen.

Get rid I'm afraid.

Gylfi and Bony are bailing the likes of Shelvey out.

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Shelvey on 21:31 - Nov 29 with 1986 viewsParlay

Shelvey on 21:27 - Nov 29 by ymaohyd

With respect you are clueless.

I'd love him to do well, he has the talent but unfortunately something isn't right,

If that little something was right he'd be one of the first on Roy Hodgson's team list. Unfortunately many players over the years come into that category.

Persevere all you like it aint going to happen.

Get rid I'm afraid.

Gylfi and Bony are bailing the likes of Shelvey out.


I wouldn't say get rid of him, he has too much potential for that. Harnessing that potential looks an unenviable task though.

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Shelvey on 21:31 - Nov 29 with 1985 views3swan

"I'd love him to do well, he has the talent but unfortunately something isn't right, "

It does seem that his reading of the game is a second or so behind what is needed. It's as if something kicks in and he then moves position etc. Not something that can be taught but may come with experience, but although still young has played enough games by now for it to happen.
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