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Reply | Are we really waiting
at 17:19 13 Nov 2024
Thought I'd check when RH joined Wolfsburg - he started 1 year 5 months after being sacked by us - and that was considered a long time out of the game.
When doing that I noticed this quote from him about how he thought the game should be played: "When you have the ball, find a quick decision, quick transition to the front. It's about being emotional, being full of passion. Also, keep the tempo on a high level and don't slow down the game. That's what I think the people want to see."
He'd run out of energy at Saints, but boy it would be good to see some of that style again instead of the turgid dross we have to put up with. |
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Reply | Are we really waiting
at 16:46 13 Nov 2024
Yes but he had a track record of success. What does RM have if he's relieved of his duties now?
Also, from the manager's side, RH was mentally burned out and talking openly about retirement before he was sacked. There's no way he would have jumped into a new manager's job at that time. It's a different situation with RM. |
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Reply | Are we really waiting
at 16:05 13 Nov 2024
I should add that the main reason he'd go back to work is for his own career. If he's out of the game for 3 years he'll be a forgotten man. Managers (especially young managers with little track record) don't tend to go away for that long and come back. If they're not back in a year the chances are they won't be back at all.
Also, if SFC still employ him they can insist that he has no contact with football apart from job interviews and watching it on TV. They can also insist that he remains available during working hours. As a young man used to being busy, it wouldn't be long before he went stir crazy. |
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Reply | Are we really waiting
at 14:39 13 Nov 2024
Because she'd end up telling him to feck off out of the house and get a job |
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Reply | Are we really waiting
at 14:21 13 Nov 2024
If the new DOF is another idiot who worships at the alter of Pep, then it is worse than doing nothing. It will mean that RM's replacement will also have us playing possession football, and will be destined to fail in the PL, if he ever gets there, for exactly the same reasons that RM is failing.
A new DOF can be expected to be Ankersen's man, just like Wilcox and RM were, and that means that we're probably destined for several more years of this. We'll be better off if they don't appoint a DOF until they've worked out why things are going wrong and who is to blame.
As for the expense of sacking RM, this is reported as being "as much as £10m" i.e. in reality a lot less than £10m. There is no reason for a pay off. Just keep him on the payroll sitting at home until the summer and he will resign of his own accord. At least that's what a switched on club would do, but a switched on club wouldn't have given him a fecking 3 year contract extension for no reason in the first place. |
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Reply | Ankersen's propaganda
at 12:15 13 Nov 2024
Interesting and confirms what I was thinking about how he had little to do with their success. I looked it up and he was co-director of football with Phil Giles. Ankersen left (whose decision was that?) and Giles is now the sole DOF. Sounds like Giles was the man who was really making the decisions, along with Matthew Benham.
Didn't know enough about him personally to know he was a total narcissist but it certainly fits with the other bits of evidence.
Unfortunately for Saints, it seems that Dragan and Kraft didn't know enough about football to see through his bullsh*t and challenge his decisions (e.g. why on earth would copying Man City rather than Brentford be a good idea for Saints?). I hope they can get together and kick him out of SR and Saints, but I suspect it will take a few more years of failure before they feel they have no other option. |
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Reply | Get Ruud now!
at 12:07 13 Nov 2024
We need someone who knows about small clubs, not Man U. Someone who can take small club players, who aren't world class, and create a team that is more than the sum of its parts. Potter and Moyes have both shown they can do that, but are unlikely to be interested. Ruud only ever played and coached at big clubs for their country. OGS is much the same.
A more likely route is a foreign manager with a brain and a gameplan that works for lesser players (i.e. not possession ffs). Someone like Iraola but who could be persuaded. I'm not holding my breath, I think we'll be stuck with RM until it's too late. If we bring someone in to change the gameplan it will take a while. That's what happened with Iraola at B'mouth. So delaying the decision as they seem to be doing probably puts the seal on relegation. |
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Thread | Ankersen's propaganda
at 14:49 12 Nov 2024
This BBC article seems a bit ridiculous to me:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/clyr6g4d0weo
For example we're told that "There is a firm belief Saints are not far away - and have not been - from a breakthrough" which is utter bollux. We're no further forward than we were at the start of the season.
But the bit that really takes the biscuit is the bit (obviously propaganda provided by the club media rep) that says:
"The experience of Rasmus Ankersen, co-founder and chief executive of Saints owners Sport Republic, means he remains patient and strategic.
His time at Brentford as co-director of football - helping to oversee the Bees' rise and Premier League promotion - has given him knowledge of how to build a sustainable model and a successful team."
This bit of propaganda was then copied across to the Echo website by Alfie House. But all the evidence says that this is utter tosh. Brentford do things completely differently to Saints. If these were Ankersen's choices at Brentford, then why has he made the completely opposite decisions at Saints?
Three key aspects of Brentford's success have been:
1) Thomas Frank's style of play, which is a world away from possession football.
2) Shutting down the academy to concentrate on recruiting players from minor leagues into their B team.
3) Heavy use of data e.g. to find optimal set piece tactics, which are a special focus, as opposed to the chaos that we see regularly.
It's just a world away from what we do. I reckon if they fed our match data into their machine it would have hysterics. 70% possession and no shots on target? Ha ha ha.
Ankersen obviously knows how to market himself if nothing else, so we keep on hearing what a genius he is. But the reality is that Brentford is the only success he's been associated with and it was probably nothing to do with him. If it was, then why is he implementing the complete opposite here?
"A sustainable model and a successful team", my arse. |
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Reply | Goalkeeper To Have Surgery As Saints Season Gets Even Worse
at 13:14 12 Nov 2024
I predict that AM will make some great saves over the next few games. It's inevitable because he'll have so many shots to deal with. Unfortunately he'll let a few in as well.
One of the key questions here is what RM will ask for in terms of playing out from the back. Will he ask AM to play with his feet as he did at the start of the season, or will he tell him to play like he did when Baz was injured at the end of last season? There's probably half a goal a game difference in goals conceded between those 2 options. You never know, maybe this will force RM to adapt his style and we'll start bombing forward and catching teams by surprise!
Ultimately though it probably doesn't matter much. Would we have got any points in the next few games with Ramsdale between the sticks? Seems unlikely. We needed a miracle either way. [Post edited 12 Nov 13:20]
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Reply | Enough
at 13:10 12 Nov 2024
There's a pattern here. Whenever I set out specific facts that you can't dispute, then I'm told that the discussion is best finished with! |
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Reply | Enough
at 22:09 11 Nov 2024
Hah hah. When you say it's "done and over" what you really mean is that you want to conveniently ignore what I actually said and instead give me a lecture about how "There really is no mileage to be gained in insults ( either implied or stated )". So please tell me, when you said to me:
"A less kind hearted person than myself may well say that you lied. Personally I’m happy to suggest that you were perhaps just economical with the truth."
How was that not an insult (either implied or stated)?
You're a hypocrite. |
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Reply | Enough
at 19:01 11 Nov 2024
My frustration with you is that you keep making things up and claiming I said them. It is you that is "economical with the truth" not me. Can you really not understand how that is annoying? It's either deliberate or you don't understand anything I say. So let me spell out some basics:
1) I did not deny that I made the statements I actually made. I denied that I made the statement that you made up. THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS. You suggested that I said "all UK old people who were unable to self fund their own latter years care should be compulsorily sent to Scotland". I did not.
2) The statements I made were in the context of a discussion about freeing up NHS beds by moving people to care homes. You left out my words which preceded the words you quote, which were:
"So we've ended up with a problem with elderly people blocking up expensive hospital beds when they don't need to be there. As I said above, even if the government is now forced to pick up the tab for these people, it would be cheaper to do that and move them out of hospital into a care home than keep them in a hospital bed. But if the government is now being forced to pick up the tab (which has never been agreed on or voted for politically) then ..."
So, I'm talking about the people who are blocking hospital beds. This is different to your statement which referred to "all UK old people". The people who are blocking hospital beds are not "all UK old people". Understand?
3) A moderately intelligent person would understand that my statement "If the available space is in Scotland then that’s where they should go" does not mean that they should be sent to Scotland. It means they should be sent to where the available capacity is and if that is in Scotland so be it. This is very different to your words.
I hope that's clear. If you don't want to be so annoying, then stop making things up and pretending I said them. |
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Reply | Reports that Martin has been sacked!
at 15:34 11 Nov 2024
No one has over-riding power AT THE MOMENT. They will try very hard to reach compromise agreements that don't cause a split in the board, just as any company would. But if it comes to a full on boardroom dispute, it ultimately comes down to who owns how many shares in SFC. SR own 80% of SFC, so their vote (which would be indivisible) decides the outcome. In turn, the SR vote depends on who owns how many shares in SR. I don't know this and I'm not sure anyone outside SR does.
Dragan is very likely the major shareholder, but does he own more than Kraft and Ankersen combined? I guess yes, but I don't know. Kraft and Ankersen are the original founders of SR and Dragan was brought in to add more money.
It's also possible that there are other, publicly unnamed shareholders in SR. If they are substantial shareholders, they would have had to be approved as fit and proper owners, but their names don't have to be made public. If they exist, they might be the decision makers in any dispute between the other parties.
So, a lot of unknowns, but they will do all they can to avoid it reaching this stage of dispute. |
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