| MC has got to go 21:59 - Nov 5 with 60211 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Sorry, but that has done it for me.
You don't put a right footed player, you don't trust, at left back, yet leave your left footed defender at right back.
Fcking stupid.
A shapeless, gutless performance. Players walking, not challenging, arguing with each other. No shape, no desire.
Something has to happen and fast as we have relegation written all over us.
***having had a good night's sleep, I don't want MC sacked, I just can't sit through this anymore. I actually hate this club at the moment.*** [Post edited 6 Nov 6:38]
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| MC has got to go on 10:01 - Nov 6 with 2940 views | terryb |
I've not read through the thread yet, but "leave your left footed defender at right back"?
Dunne is very much right footed & only played on the left side of the defence as Dickie was even worse with his left! | | | |
| MC has got to go on 10:02 - Nov 6 with 2939 views | qprninja |
Time for the owners to sell up and go. All they have ever consistently done is waste their own money and run the football club VERY badly. Marti is a good manager, and they've managed to make his job difficult. |  | | |
| MC has got to go on 10:10 - Nov 6 with 2875 views | NorthantsHoop |
| MC has got to go on 09:54 - Nov 6 by Gloucs_R |
Absolutely nailed this Clive.
Gaps all over the squad. I dont believe Mati isnt smart enough to have seen this and challenged it over the summer.
Feels like he is waiting to be sacked.
I am hopeful we can scrape a few points and still be within touching distance come Jan. 3/4 championship level signings / loans and we may have a chance. Sadly, that would probbaly mean shifting Chair on to do so. Who doenst look fit at all btw. |
I sometimes go to Northampton Town games had vision near end of 2022/2023 season when Ainsworth was struggling with our lot of sitting in the away end at Sixfields watching my beloved QPR and getting pelters from my Northampton mates. It is looking increasingly likely we will be playing Northampton next season, watching it from the upper loft last night, we looked a right load of old cobblers. |  | | |
| MC has got to go on 10:23 - Nov 6 with 2773 views | mart_Goblin |
| MC has got to go on 09:49 - Nov 6 by ParkRoyalR |
He came on as a replacement, and wasn't 1 on 1 against Ben Doak. |
Ok I’ve edited that last post. Went in 2 footed when it’s not people on here I’m annoyed with [Post edited 6 Nov 10:31]
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| MC has got to go on 10:39 - Nov 6 with 2664 views | terryb |
Should MC go? A very definite NO!
However, I've struggled most of this season to understand his substitutions & feel that at present he is failing to impact matches. I'm sure that nearly all of us last night could see that Santos was being taken apart & needed help. I would also sugest that Saito was the only possible player that would provide this, but he was kept on the right where he is less effective. Only being able to use three subs against Sunderland is another indication of not controlling the changes.
The present situation at left back is very worrying as Saito looks the only option to play there, but as a left wing back. Hopefully, Morrison is now available to take a place in a back three (this would be asking a lot of him).
What I'm certain of though, is that nothing will permanently change while we have the same ownership. | | | |
| MC has got to go on 10:48 - Nov 6 with 2590 views | Lblock |
I've come to the conclusion that Marti is waiting for either sacking and a nice bit of compo or there's stacked payments and once he's got one of those it'll be "mutual consent".
I've consistently said he's a novice Championship manager learning on the job but was doing that really, really well. Now we've added a load of novice players just to make his life harder.
No idea who takes over on 11 November but it may very well be Nourry himself.
I'd stick with Marti through thin and thinner but that'll never happen at our circus despite the child CEO being on the record of saying that's what we'll do. |  |
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| MC has got to go on 10:52 - Nov 6 with 2551 views | wombat |
| MC has got to go on 10:02 - Nov 6 by qprninja |
Time for the owners to sell up and go. All they have ever consistently done is waste their own money and run the football club VERY badly. Marti is a good manager, and they've managed to make his job difficult. |
yeah brillaint idea , they walk clubs shuts down few weeks later , saves us all the grief of watchng us loose every week. im all for it myself ! |  |
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| MC has got to go on 10:54 - Nov 6 with 2539 views | PhilmyRs |
It's clear to everyone there are major problems with the Team. As a MC fan and someone that really wants him to succeed and remain Manager for many years to come, I have to admit he's made mistakes, Santos left back with Field alongside in the back 4 and a half arsed Chair providing wing cover was a recipe for disaster and that is on the Manager. But do you think the odd tactical error like that is why we're in this mess?
Surely, when you spend the money we have this summer and you end up with a right back at left back, an 18 year old academy boy in centre mid and your most hardworking centre mid playing centre half, something has gone seriously wrong. Throw in the increased injuries this season, and I'm not sure there's a Manager that can get us out of this hole but the one I'd trust most to do it, as he's managed it before, is the one still in charge.
Celar and Frey. How can people look at that as our striking options and be anything other than disgusted. We've just survived relegation and we're going into the new season with 2 strikers, both unproven at this level.
Now for the slightly controversial bit, but I think all our new signings, with the exception of Santos, and possibly Celar (I'm one that still thinks he could be a good striker played in a different setup), look like they have something to offer if part of the right team, and style of play etc. But a club as disjointed as us, and with so many new toys that aren't used to the Championship, with injuries biting and confidence at a very low level, they look even worse than they actually are.
A Manager that is trying to piece a team together without the quality of JCS, the experience and ability of Jack Colback, the on his day ability of Paal, the natural ability of Dembele, is going to struggle massively. Throw in the one physical striker we have also being injured and I'm not sure what people expect MC to get out of this team. That's all on the recruitment. [Post edited 6 Nov 10:55]
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| MC has got to go on 11:49 - Nov 6 with 2377 views | TheChef |
| MC has got to go on 09:54 - Nov 6 by Gloucs_R |
Absolutely nailed this Clive.
Gaps all over the squad. I dont believe Mati isnt smart enough to have seen this and challenged it over the summer.
Feels like he is waiting to be sacked.
I am hopeful we can scrape a few points and still be within touching distance come Jan. 3/4 championship level signings / loans and we may have a chance. Sadly, that would probbaly mean shifting Chair on to do so. Who doenst look fit at all btw. |
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| MC has got to go on 11:52 - Nov 6 with 2354 views | lassel |
He’ll be gone soon enough, don’t worry.
As a fanbase though we really need to stick together so that we can hound out the next guy up as well. | | | |
| MC has got to go on 11:55 - Nov 6 with 2329 views | Hunterhoop |
| MC has got to go on 11:52 - Nov 6 by lassel |
He’ll be gone soon enough, don’t worry.
As a fanbase though we really need to stick together so that we can hound out the next guy up as well. |
We need to unite and hound out the CEO, or at the very least force him to become collobarative and open with the fanbase, on both non-playing and playing matters. |  | | |
| MC has got to go on 12:01 - Nov 6 with 2276 views | TheChef |
| MC has got to go on 11:55 - Nov 6 by Hunterhoop |
We need to unite and hound out the CEO, or at the very least force him to become collobarative and open with the fanbase, on both non-playing and playing matters. |
But annoyingly Nourry strikes me as the kind of sociopathic narcissist who will love all that attention... | |
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| MC has got to go on 12:49 - Nov 6 with 2118 views | PunteR |
| MC has got to go on 22:47 - Nov 5 by Rangersw12 |
Would love to know who this amazing left back we have at the club who could have played instead of Santos tonight
Anyway it's irrelevant as the usual suspects will get their wish shortly and we will get another has been in and give it six months and the usual suspects will want him gone as we should go for a exotic foreign coach
Rinse and fcking repeat |
Saito done fine there last Saturday.
Edit: but having read the rest of this thread it seems irrelevant now. [Post edited 6 Nov 12:58]
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| MC has got to go on 13:05 - Nov 6 with 2014 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Just my tupp'orth.
I've been confused with a few of Cifuentes' tactical decisions this season but any thought that he should be replaced seems like madness to me. Absolute madness. |  |
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| MC has got to go on 13:06 - Nov 6 with 2014 views | Hunterhoop |
| MC has got to go on 12:49 - Nov 6 by PunteR |
Saito done fine there last Saturday.
Edit: but having read the rest of this thread it seems irrelevant now. [Post edited 6 Nov 12:58]
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I’d be open to Saito at Left Back. Or Field whilst Paal, Fox, and Ashby are all out. But that needs one of Morrison and JCS to be fit. Of course, if Saito plays at LB and Chair is injured, who plays wide left?
A bad squad with lots of injuries. | | | |
| MC has got to go on 13:09 - Nov 6 with 1983 views | Northernr |
At least Saito puts it about a bit bless him. |  | | |
| MC has got to go on 13:15 - Nov 6 with 1940 views | BklynRanger |
| MC has got to go on 13:06 - Nov 6 by Hunterhoop |
I’d be open to Saito at Left Back. Or Field whilst Paal, Fox, and Ashby are all out. But that needs one of Morrison and JCS to be fit. Of course, if Saito plays at LB and Chair is injured, who plays wide left?
A bad squad with lots of injuries. |
I noticed Ayling moved over to the left in the second half.
Don't know how much that was about Saito's presence but Ayling seemed to be the focus of everything, playing at RB in the first half. Just camped there putting pressure down our left side. Agree with the couple of comments that Santos needed more support.
Apart from all that I think we need to be vocal about keeping Marti, and if it's a choice, chucking out Nourry. |  | | |
| MC has got to go on 13:17 - Nov 6 with 1935 views | Blue_Castello |
| MC has got to go on 13:06 - Nov 6 by Hunterhoop |
I’d be open to Saito at Left Back. Or Field whilst Paal, Fox, and Ashby are all out. But that needs one of Morrison and JCS to be fit. Of course, if Saito plays at LB and Chair is injured, who plays wide left?
A bad squad with lots of injuries. |
Agreed it would be very interesting to find out who made the decision to loan Larkeche to Dundee whilst bringing in two supposed right backs and in the process blocking our move for Hayden, answers on a postcard..... | | | |
| MC has got to go on 13:19 - Nov 6 with 1915 views | TheChef |
| MC has got to go on 13:06 - Nov 6 by Hunterhoop |
I’d be open to Saito at Left Back. Or Field whilst Paal, Fox, and Ashby are all out. But that needs one of Morrison and JCS to be fit. Of course, if Saito plays at LB and Chair is injured, who plays wide left?
A bad squad with lots of injuries. |
A fairly fatal combination, that. | |
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| MC has got to go on 13:24 - Nov 6 with 1893 views | ParkRoyalR |
| MC has got to go on 13:09 - Nov 6 by Northernr |
At least Saito puts it about a bit bless him. |
Yes, fair play to him, wins headers & tackles,
Like Morgan, both men who look like boys,
Compared to Celar, Madsen & Andersen who are the complete opposite, cowards. | | | |
| MC has got to go on 13:26 - Nov 6 with 1880 views | ngbqpr |
A lot of talk about how Marti "looks fed up", "can't have been involved in the signings", is "giving messages to the board with his subs bench" etc etc
Yet he and Calm signed contract extensions only a few weeks ago.
Are we really in such cynical times as to think they solely did that to ensure a higher pay out when it goes to $hit? Do they really have no belief in the (ahem) "project"?
Just my rhetorical questions / idle pondering tbh... |  |
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| MC has got to go on 13:37 - Nov 6 with 1811 views | Rangersw12 |
| MC has got to go on 13:26 - Nov 6 by ngbqpr |
A lot of talk about how Marti "looks fed up", "can't have been involved in the signings", is "giving messages to the board with his subs bench" etc etc
Yet he and Calm signed contract extensions only a few weeks ago.
Are we really in such cynical times as to think they solely did that to ensure a higher pay out when it goes to $hit? Do they really have no belief in the (ahem) "project"?
Just my rhetorical questions / idle pondering tbh... |
It might have been announced a couple of weeks ago but we don't know when they actually signed it . | | | |
| MC has got to go on 13:39 - Nov 6 with 1779 views | Northernr |
| MC has got to go on 13:26 - Nov 6 by ngbqpr |
A lot of talk about how Marti "looks fed up", "can't have been involved in the signings", is "giving messages to the board with his subs bench" etc etc
Yet he and Calm signed contract extensions only a few weeks ago.
Are we really in such cynical times as to think they solely did that to ensure a higher pay out when it goes to $hit? Do they really have no belief in the (ahem) "project"?
Just my rhetorical questions / idle pondering tbh... |
1 - I'd put everything I've got on those contracts being signed a long time before they got round to telling us plebs they'd done it.
2 - If somebody says "would you like some more money when we sack you" you say YES. | | | |
| MC has got to go on 13:47 - Nov 6 with 1702 views | Damo1962 |
| MC has got to go on 13:26 - Nov 6 by ngbqpr |
A lot of talk about how Marti "looks fed up", "can't have been involved in the signings", is "giving messages to the board with his subs bench" etc etc
Yet he and Calm signed contract extensions only a few weeks ago.
Are we really in such cynical times as to think they solely did that to ensure a higher pay out when it goes to $hit? Do they really have no belief in the (ahem) "project"?
Just my rhetorical questions / idle pondering tbh... |
Football is one of the most cynical environments there is sadly - so nothing would surprise me anymore. The CEO, the head coach and his vast army of helpers, the players all get something out of this "project". The only ones who don't get anything
are the supporters...especially those who pay to go and watch it. | | | |
| MC has got to go on 13:48 - Nov 6 with 1700 views | TheChef |
| MC has got to go on 13:39 - Nov 6 by Northernr |
1 - I'd put everything I've got on those contracts being signed a long time before they got round to telling us plebs they'd done it.
2 - If somebody says "would you like some more money when we sack you" you say YES. |
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