| The Championship Table 11:08 - Nov 4 with 1304 views | swancity |
Looking at the current table we are in 12th position. That’s a very good return when we consider where our club is and how it’s currently being run.
Manager Luke Williams his staff and players are on balance doing a good job. Defensively we look as solid as we have for a long time. The other team cannot score without the ball. 😃
Wr appreciate the constraints and limitations we have up front but so far we are doing well. I’ll stick with my pre season prediction of 13-16th which will be a respectable decent return.
Leeds Sunderland and Burnley look good so far with Sheff Utd in with a chance.
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| The Championship Table on 11:32 - Nov 4 with 1257 views | onehunglow |
We keep Cabango and Darling , we should stay up with something to spare
Invest in a striker and coach better finishes in the box and we could finish top six
It was wide open
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| The Championship Table on 11:38 - Nov 4 with 1246 views | Whiterockin |
There is a massive imbalance in finances in the Championship due to parachute payments, clubs gambling on promotion and clubs with attendances of 40,000. Anyone who thinks there is nothing in this league clearly underestimates the excellent job Williams is doing or just doesn't want to believe it. |  | | |
| The Championship Table on 13:10 - Nov 4 with 1135 views | builthjack |
Williams is working with one hand tied behind his back. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The Championship Table on 13:18 - Nov 4 with 1124 views | Whiterockin |
| The Championship Table on 13:10 - Nov 4 by builthjack |
Williams is working with one hand tied behind his back. |
We are very lucky to have him, others would have walked. | | | |
| The Championship Table on 13:20 - Nov 4 with 1115 views | RichardO |
Even those three clubs have had some up and down results, we seem to have a stable and consistent back four which hopefully won't be badly affected by individual players missing the odd game be it suspension or in need of a rest.
If we can create more good attacking situations and take our chances then nothing so say we cannot compete in this league.
Would like to see it sooner than later giving the likes of Cabango and Darling something to think about when taking into consideration of where their future lies, Trundle and Leon both thought the grass was greener elsewhere but was that the case? Better the devil you know, the manager does seem to be adaptable and seems to have managed the team well given some of the obstacles that have affected the team and at least although we don't have a great strength in depth when the substitutions are mad they aren't as idiotic as Martin's moving players around only to reverse his descions a couple of minutes later causing chaos nor does he seem as stubborn as to not change things to suit players at his disposal
Abdulai seems the exception but hopefully with time of his side he can finally be picked in a position that suit his skill set or he can adapt. [Post edited 4 Nov 13:26]
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| The Championship Table on 13:32 - Nov 4 with 1082 views | Whiterockin |
| The Championship Table on 13:20 - Nov 4 by RichardO |
Even those three clubs have had some up and down results, we seem to have a stable and consistent back four which hopefully won't be badly affected by individual players missing the odd game be it suspension or in need of a rest.
If we can create more good attacking situations and take our chances then nothing so say we cannot compete in this league.
Would like to see it sooner than later giving the likes of Cabango and Darling something to think about when taking into consideration of where their future lies, Trundle and Leon both thought the grass was greener elsewhere but was that the case? Better the devil you know, the manager does seem to be adaptable and seems to have managed the team well given some of the obstacles that have affected the team and at least although we don't have a great strength in depth when the substitutions are mad they aren't as idiotic as Martin's moving players around only to reverse his descions a couple of minutes later causing chaos nor does he seem as stubborn as to not change things to suit players at his disposal
Abdulai seems the exception but hopefully with time of his side he can finally be picked in a position that suit his skill set or he can adapt. [Post edited 4 Nov 13:26]
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If you were Darling or Cabango would commit your future to a club apparently lacking a long term plan or ambition. This is a serious question not a throwaway statement. | | | |
| The Championship Table on 13:46 - Nov 4 with 1045 views | RichardO |
| The Championship Table on 13:32 - Nov 4 by Whiterockin |
If you were Darling or Cabango would commit your future to a club apparently lacking a long term plan or ambition. This is a serious question not a throwaway statement. |
Knew we were going to lose Piroe but losing Ntcham was a big loss of quality in areas that we thought we were going to be at a good standard in, the players can see what is happening in the club and must have an effect on their descions. | | | |
| The Championship Table on 14:02 - Nov 4 with 1013 views | Whiterockin |
| The Championship Table on 13:46 - Nov 4 by RichardO |
Knew we were going to lose Piroe but losing Ntcham was a big loss of quality in areas that we thought we were going to be at a good standard in, the players can see what is happening in the club and must have an effect on their descions. |
Without a doubt. A players contract has built bonuses and crevats to cover many outcomes not only match appearances. You could have an automatic increase for promotion or decrease if relegated. Which is more lightly to a player re signing for us under the current ownership and business model. | | | |
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| The Championship Table on 15:50 - Nov 4 with 933 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The Championship Table on 13:18 - Nov 4 by Whiterockin |
We are very lucky to have him, others would have walked. |
Another tired narrative. "Ambitious" managers like Martin and Cooper jumped ship and Martin did not even pay his compensation in full. Both voluntarily broke their 3 year contracts. Same with Potter.
Potter and Cooper got as much transfer money they could spend and both underachieved and got sacked.£1 Billion between them more than enough the fix the M4 relief road. Bonkers.
Williams has to work to a budget and recruitment has given him a stack of promising young players he has to develop and improve. This is not a quick fix job. He will be given time to show his value and will do if he does not have his head turned by clubs with bigger budgets. Mark Robbins is an example. Even he with his squad is having difficulties.
What has Williams got to complain about? Vipotnik has a scored more than Langstaff.. |  |
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| The Championship Table on 15:56 - Nov 4 with 929 views | onehunglow |
| The Championship Table on 15:50 - Nov 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Another tired narrative. "Ambitious" managers like Martin and Cooper jumped ship and Martin did not even pay his compensation in full. Both voluntarily broke their 3 year contracts. Same with Potter.
Potter and Cooper got as much transfer money they could spend and both underachieved and got sacked.£1 Billion between them more than enough the fix the M4 relief road. Bonkers.
Williams has to work to a budget and recruitment has given him a stack of promising young players he has to develop and improve. This is not a quick fix job. He will be given time to show his value and will do if he does not have his head turned by clubs with bigger budgets. Mark Robbins is an example. Even he with his squad is having difficulties.
What has Williams got to complain about? Vipotnik has a scored more than Langstaff.. |
I agree
Lucky how
It’s simply a case of him having the sympathy vote because of our doom brain owners
He’s playing the Poor Me track and I dint like it at all.
He is lucky to be employed at our club .
We are a fine club albeit one who is rather stranded on the rocks at the moment
Had we a pragmatic less stubborn coach,we’d be top six
If he’s that good ,then he should have walked into another more lucrative job by now | |
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| The Championship Table on 16:12 - Nov 4 with 895 views | Whiterockin |
| The Championship Table on 15:50 - Nov 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Another tired narrative. "Ambitious" managers like Martin and Cooper jumped ship and Martin did not even pay his compensation in full. Both voluntarily broke their 3 year contracts. Same with Potter.
Potter and Cooper got as much transfer money they could spend and both underachieved and got sacked.£1 Billion between them more than enough the fix the M4 relief road. Bonkers.
Williams has to work to a budget and recruitment has given him a stack of promising young players he has to develop and improve. This is not a quick fix job. He will be given time to show his value and will do if he does not have his head turned by clubs with bigger budgets. Mark Robbins is an example. Even he with his squad is having difficulties.
What has Williams got to complain about? Vipotnik has a scored more than Langstaff.. |
I am glad that you finally accept that Williams has no say in the incoming players and he is given them by the recruitment team. | | | |
| The Championship Table on 17:18 - Nov 4 with 819 views | jack247 |
| The Championship Table on 13:10 - Nov 4 by builthjack |
Williams is working with one hand tied behind his back. |
He’s working with a far weaker squad than either Martin or Cooper and, so far at least, he’s making far less of a fuss about it than either of them. | | | |
| The Championship Table on 19:47 - Nov 4 with 717 views | swancity |
| The Championship Table on 17:18 - Nov 4 by jack247 |
He’s working with a far weaker squad than either Martin or Cooper and, so far at least, he’s making far less of a fuss about it than either of them. |
In trying circumstances Williams is effectively calmly and quietly getting on with his business and is doing a superb job. | |
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| The Championship Table on 19:51 - Nov 4 with 707 views | Fireboy2 |
| The Championship Table on 19:47 - Nov 4 by swancity |
In trying circumstances Williams is effectively calmly and quietly getting on with his business and is doing a superb job. |
Agreed.
All he needs is a decent attacking midfielder and a decent striker. |  | | |
| The Championship Table on 20:19 - Nov 4 with 661 views | max936 |
| The Championship Table on 19:51 - Nov 4 by Fireboy2 |
Agreed.
All he needs is a decent attacking midfielder and a decent striker. |
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| The Championship Table on 20:20 - Nov 4 with 661 views | KeithHaynes |
| The Championship Table on 15:50 - Nov 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Another tired narrative. "Ambitious" managers like Martin and Cooper jumped ship and Martin did not even pay his compensation in full. Both voluntarily broke their 3 year contracts. Same with Potter.
Potter and Cooper got as much transfer money they could spend and both underachieved and got sacked.£1 Billion between them more than enough the fix the M4 relief road. Bonkers.
Williams has to work to a budget and recruitment has given him a stack of promising young players he has to develop and improve. This is not a quick fix job. He will be given time to show his value and will do if he does not have his head turned by clubs with bigger budgets. Mark Robbins is an example. Even he with his squad is having difficulties.
What has Williams got to complain about? Vipotnik has a scored more than Langstaff.. |
You are going to have to trust me on this. I’ve said it five times now.
Cooper asked for a 50k a year pay rise and four million pounds to guarantee a repeat of the previous season. It was refused. He left saying he can’t manage the team with his hands tied behind his back, this after two play offs. The whole timeframe was exclusively reported on these pages.
He didn’t break his contract the club negotiated a pay off with him to leave. That’s how stupid they are. No other club after two play offs would do such a thing.
Martin ? Didn’t break his contract. You have to understand that Coleman was reviewing investing in the club in January of the year Martin left. He was Chairman when Martin was sacked. This is why as he stated earlier this year he didn’t take over as Chairman in May, it was August. That has already been exposed. The scrap with Southampton over the compensation for the Swans wasn’t as a result of him or his coaching staff walking out. And it didn’t go to court for two reasons, one is cost, the other is Andrew Coleman at no point was going to sit in an open civil court being the man responsible for the absolute horrendous decision making and Martin leaving. He thinks politically and financially, any in-depth involvement in Martin leaving he was walking away from.
The majority owners fall out in time with everyone, Josh Marsh, Julian Winter, even Trevor Birch who saw what was happening and quickly found another job. We can add Martin and Cooper and numerous others to that point. They have no foresight in seeing what a manager or certain employees can offer. They orchestrate situations to force the individual into a corner. They can’t form relationships nor can they see beyond scapegoating at least seven employees that I know of to leave.
You can believe what you want, we’ve a long trail of proof on this website, and as I have always stated, the internet is a great time stamp. If we are wrong then why haven’t we had any interventions from lawyers or the IPCC as it was then 🤷🏻♂️
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| The Championship Table on 20:44 - Nov 4 with 619 views | max936 |
| The Championship Table on 20:20 - Nov 4 by KeithHaynes |
You are going to have to trust me on this. I’ve said it five times now.
Cooper asked for a 50k a year pay rise and four million pounds to guarantee a repeat of the previous season. It was refused. He left saying he can’t manage the team with his hands tied behind his back, this after two play offs. The whole timeframe was exclusively reported on these pages.
He didn’t break his contract the club negotiated a pay off with him to leave. That’s how stupid they are. No other club after two play offs would do such a thing.
Martin ? Didn’t break his contract. You have to understand that Coleman was reviewing investing in the club in January of the year Martin left. He was Chairman when Martin was sacked. This is why as he stated earlier this year he didn’t take over as Chairman in May, it was August. That has already been exposed. The scrap with Southampton over the compensation for the Swans wasn’t as a result of him or his coaching staff walking out. And it didn’t go to court for two reasons, one is cost, the other is Andrew Coleman at no point was going to sit in an open civil court being the man responsible for the absolute horrendous decision making and Martin leaving. He thinks politically and financially, any in-depth involvement in Martin leaving he was walking away from.
The majority owners fall out in time with everyone, Josh Marsh, Julian Winter, even Trevor Birch who saw what was happening and quickly found another job. We can add Martin and Cooper and numerous others to that point. They have no foresight in seeing what a manager or certain employees can offer. They orchestrate situations to force the individual into a corner. They can’t form relationships nor can they see beyond scapegoating at least seven employees that I know of to leave.
You can believe what you want, we’ve a long trail of proof on this website, and as I have always stated, the internet is a great time stamp. If we are wrong then why haven’t we had any interventions from lawyers or the IPCC as it was then 🤷🏻♂️
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Great post, lets hope that this finally gets absorbed once and for all. | |
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| The Championship Table on 20:45 - Nov 4 with 616 views | Fireboy2 |
| The Championship Table on 20:20 - Nov 4 by KeithHaynes |
You are going to have to trust me on this. I’ve said it five times now.
Cooper asked for a 50k a year pay rise and four million pounds to guarantee a repeat of the previous season. It was refused. He left saying he can’t manage the team with his hands tied behind his back, this after two play offs. The whole timeframe was exclusively reported on these pages.
He didn’t break his contract the club negotiated a pay off with him to leave. That’s how stupid they are. No other club after two play offs would do such a thing.
Martin ? Didn’t break his contract. You have to understand that Coleman was reviewing investing in the club in January of the year Martin left. He was Chairman when Martin was sacked. This is why as he stated earlier this year he didn’t take over as Chairman in May, it was August. That has already been exposed. The scrap with Southampton over the compensation for the Swans wasn’t as a result of him or his coaching staff walking out. And it didn’t go to court for two reasons, one is cost, the other is Andrew Coleman at no point was going to sit in an open civil court being the man responsible for the absolute horrendous decision making and Martin leaving. He thinks politically and financially, any in-depth involvement in Martin leaving he was walking away from.
The majority owners fall out in time with everyone, Josh Marsh, Julian Winter, even Trevor Birch who saw what was happening and quickly found another job. We can add Martin and Cooper and numerous others to that point. They have no foresight in seeing what a manager or certain employees can offer. They orchestrate situations to force the individual into a corner. They can’t form relationships nor can they see beyond scapegoating at least seven employees that I know of to leave.
You can believe what you want, we’ve a long trail of proof on this website, and as I have always stated, the internet is a great time stamp. If we are wrong then why haven’t we had any interventions from lawyers or the IPCC as it was then 🤷🏻♂️
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So I am right about coleman then.
Thought so.
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| The Championship Table on 22:17 - Nov 4 with 548 views | Whiterockin |
| The Championship Table on 20:20 - Nov 4 by KeithHaynes |
You are going to have to trust me on this. I’ve said it five times now.
Cooper asked for a 50k a year pay rise and four million pounds to guarantee a repeat of the previous season. It was refused. He left saying he can’t manage the team with his hands tied behind his back, this after two play offs. The whole timeframe was exclusively reported on these pages.
He didn’t break his contract the club negotiated a pay off with him to leave. That’s how stupid they are. No other club after two play offs would do such a thing.
Martin ? Didn’t break his contract. You have to understand that Coleman was reviewing investing in the club in January of the year Martin left. He was Chairman when Martin was sacked. This is why as he stated earlier this year he didn’t take over as Chairman in May, it was August. That has already been exposed. The scrap with Southampton over the compensation for the Swans wasn’t as a result of him or his coaching staff walking out. And it didn’t go to court for two reasons, one is cost, the other is Andrew Coleman at no point was going to sit in an open civil court being the man responsible for the absolute horrendous decision making and Martin leaving. He thinks politically and financially, any in-depth involvement in Martin leaving he was walking away from.
The majority owners fall out in time with everyone, Josh Marsh, Julian Winter, even Trevor Birch who saw what was happening and quickly found another job. We can add Martin and Cooper and numerous others to that point. They have no foresight in seeing what a manager or certain employees can offer. They orchestrate situations to force the individual into a corner. They can’t form relationships nor can they see beyond scapegoating at least seven employees that I know of to leave.
You can believe what you want, we’ve a long trail of proof on this website, and as I have always stated, the internet is a great time stamp. If we are wrong then why haven’t we had any interventions from lawyers or the IPCC as it was then 🤷🏻♂️
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Brilliant post if the carrot banana tip top can't understand this it's his loss.
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| The Championship Table on 22:19 - Nov 4 with 540 views | Fireboy2 |
| The Championship Table on 22:17 - Nov 4 by Whiterockin |
Brilliant post if the carrot banana tip top can't understand this it's his loss.
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| The Championship Table on 22:28 - Nov 4 with 518 views | pencoedjack |
| The Championship Table on 11:32 - Nov 4 by onehunglow |
We keep Cabango and Darling , we should stay up with something to spare
Invest in a striker and coach better finishes in the box and we could finish top six
It was wide open
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https://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=241763&sid=df9941
What a difference in 2 fanbases ours is more realistic |  | | |
| The Championship Table on 22:42 - Nov 4 with 503 views | builthjack |
Great post Keith. Lots of answers and truth. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The Championship Table on 23:15 - Nov 4 with 471 views | KeithHaynes |
| The Championship Table on 13:46 - Nov 4 by RichardO |
Knew we were going to lose Piroe but losing Ntcham was a big loss of quality in areas that we thought we were going to be at a good standard in, the players can see what is happening in the club and must have an effect on their descions. |
He went because Martin did.
There are three players that I know would have stayed had Martin been allowed to build on his second season. Let’s not forget the players who did leave all had experiences of Michael Duff in training. It just wasn’t the same and was the catalyst, possibly bar Piroe for them all leaving. And there’s a lot.
There is a saying ‘repent at your leisure’ Something I very much doubt any of the decision makers at Swansea City even give a thought to.
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