| Fundamentals on 11:47 - Oct 20 with 1674 views | QPR_Hibs |
Agree with most of this and would add:
9. Defending Corners - what is the point of having Dembele or Chair (or Smyth or Saito) in the box defending? Get one or two of them on the halfway line as an out ball.
10. Stupid goalkick routine - Why? Nardi should either play it short or lump it forward. Why is the defender passing it to Nardi to receive it back again but now under pressure from the oppo striker? [Post edited 20 Oct 11:47]
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| Fundamentals on 11:48 - Oct 20 with 1669 views | danehoop |
this all sounds like witchcraft - burn him |  |
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| Fundamentals on 11:54 - Oct 20 with 1605 views | ozexile |
| Fundamentals on 11:47 - Oct 20 by QPR_Hibs |
Agree with most of this and would add:
9. Defending Corners - what is the point of having Dembele or Chair (or Smyth or Saito) in the box defending? Get one or two of them on the halfway line as an out ball.
10. Stupid goalkick routine - Why? Nardi should either play it short or lump it forward. Why is the defender passing it to Nardi to receive it back again but now under pressure from the oppo striker? [Post edited 20 Oct 11:47]
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No.10 kills me. Hope Pep decides to go long with every kick soon so we can get rid of this nonsense. It's ok occasionally but to do it everytime when a team is set in front of you is crackers. No wonder fans are bored rigid. |  | | |
| Fundamentals on 12:50 - Oct 20 with 1445 views | Northolt_Rs |
| Fundamentals on 11:54 - Oct 20 by ozexile |
No.10 kills me. Hope Pep decides to go long with every kick soon so we can get rid of this nonsense. It's ok occasionally but to do it everytime when a team is set in front of you is crackers. No wonder fans are bored rigid. |
Then the big hoof ball by passing MF up to Frey who is marked by 3 defenders in the hope he can flick it on to…..nobody. It’s truly hopeless and fkn awful to watch. Portsmouth won’t win an easier game all season. Fkn horrific ‘performance’. |  |
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| Fundamentals on 14:12 - Oct 20 with 1312 views | rbee |
Fundamentally football is a simple game, several fans on here have said that they think that Marti is over complicating things.
Football is 11 v 11. Even if the opposition 11 are better players than your 11, Wolves today v Man City, you are at an immediate disadvantage, but there will be a way to achieve a positive outcome, Bournemouth v Arsenal yesterday.
As others have suggested I think Marti should put his preferred style of play and club ethos on the back burner and concentrate on putting points on the board. For me that starts at the back and keeping clean sheets, without that it's an uphill climb. Defend for our lives and stop putting all 11 players back at set pieces, leave Saito, or similar, up top, always pose the opposition some questions.
I remember back in 2009 (?) we sacked Jim Magilton and went up to West Brom for a Monday night Sky game with Steve Gallen and Marc Bircham in temporary charge. West Brom were second in the league and flying so we feared the worst.
We did defend for our lives, closed them down, restricted them much of the time to sideways football but we always posed a threat on the break and at set pieces. 0-0 at half time and early in the second half we took the lead before adding a second. WBA put us under so much pressure and finally equalised in injury time but an almost perfect away performance.
Portsmouth are not a better team than us but we lost, Coventry are not a better team than us so it's up to Marti to tactically get this game right and outwit his counterpart with his 11 against their 11. |  | | |
| Fundamentals on 14:13 - Oct 20 with 1306 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Fundamentals on 11:47 - Oct 20 by QPR_Hibs |
Agree with most of this and would add:
9. Defending Corners - what is the point of having Dembele or Chair (or Smyth or Saito) in the box defending? Get one or two of them on the halfway line as an out ball.
10. Stupid goalkick routine - Why? Nardi should either play it short or lump it forward. Why is the defender passing it to Nardi to receive it back again but now under pressure from the oppo striker? [Post edited 20 Oct 11:47]
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We almost got done at a corner, again, with an unmarked player standing just outside of the box. Fortunately, he smashed it over the bar. We absolutely do not learn from previous mistakes.
Basic stuff, but the quality of our play yesterday was really poor. | | | |
| Fundamentals on 14:16 - Oct 20 with 1296 views | eastside_r |
We are doing the simple things, the fundamentals, badly.
We are unlikely to come up against two such limited teams as Pompey and Derby many times this season. And we were were well beaten by both of them.
Neither of them needed to be much good (and they weren't) to beat us. |  | | |
| Fundamentals on 14:34 - Oct 20 with 1245 views | R_from_afar |
Good points. I really wonder if we *don't* practice thiis stuff because:
- It's assumed all the players have fully mastered it
- The players find it boring
- The coaching staff find it boring
- A combination of some or all of the above.
As an example, the quality of finishing has been poor for years. It must have been at least four years ago that we played Cardiff away, swarmed all over them, had over 20 shots on target, then lost 3-0 as Cardiff had just three shots, all of which went in.
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| Fundamentals on 14:47 - Oct 20 with 1198 views | mart_Goblin |
It’s really simple , but if you don’t do the most basic of footballing fundamentals like win your duals, win second balls, keep the ball, move the ball quickly, have good movement, attack the ball etc etc etc etc etc then you lose football matches.
We don’t do any of these well enough |  | | |
| Fundamentals on 15:57 - Oct 20 with 1072 views | DWQPR |
Number 8 is a bit unfair. When you have someone like Paul Smyth who crosses before he looks or thinks then it is hard for a forward to anticipate. There was one instance late in the game when Smyth hit a ball that was neither cross or shot, which had no bend or direction for a forward to get onto. It also boils my pîss the lack of pulling the ball back from the byline for oncoming midfielders to strike a shot, although based on yesterdays shooting I suspect that H&S for the supporters in the upper tier have to be considered! | |
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| Fundamentals on 17:08 - Oct 20 with 1018 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Fundamentals on 11:54 - Oct 20 by ozexile |
No.10 kills me. Hope Pep decides to go long with every kick soon so we can get rid of this nonsense. It's ok occasionally but to do it everytime when a team is set in front of you is crackers. No wonder fans are bored rigid. |
It makes even less sense when you consider that we don't have central midfielders who are comfortable receiving the ball on the turn in tight areas and can get the team moving up the pitch. The defenders inevitably have to go long so Nardi may as well go long to begin with. In our current set-up going short increases the risk when there is no reward to be had. |  | | |
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