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They're at it again 16:37 - Nov 15 with 3449 viewsBoundy

Please discuss the merits of this , one man's mission which will cost us the taxpayer money . when you consider the only 20% speak Welsh ,why ?

https://www.gov.wales/sites/default/files/inline-documents/2021-05/20190513%20DG

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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They're at it again on 16:51 - Nov 15 with 2508 viewsWhiterockin

Welcome to a dictatorship.
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They're at it again on 16:53 - Nov 15 with 2505 viewsgadgetuk

This is dated 2019?
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They're at it again on 17:02 - Nov 15 with 2487 viewsWingstandwood

This post summed up quango-land, third-sector-land, made-up-job-land, WOKE-job-land, jobs-for-the boys/girls-land and parallel universe Bo*****s where money is prioritarised and wasted by politcal-party-Wales on absolute bullsh1t!!!

Never mind the public services, economy and infrastrucure hey! Lets just fill the ever expanding, sh*te excuse of a trough so that the patronised can feed. Wales has NO sustainable future!!!


Argus!

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They're at it again on 17:04 - Nov 15 with 2485 viewsBoundy

They're at it again on 16:53 - Nov 15 by gadgetuk

This is dated 2019?


Yes but if you recall the renaming of the Brecon Beacons for example , its started .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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They're at it again on 17:15 - Nov 15 with 2458 viewsGwyn737

With all the different GPS map tools now available, surely standardising place names is sensible 🤷‍♂️
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They're at it again on 17:51 - Nov 15 with 2437 viewsWhiterockin

They're at it again on 17:15 - Nov 15 by Gwyn737

With all the different GPS map tools now available, surely standardising place names is sensible 🤷‍♂️


Totally agree, standardise place names in the language the majority use.
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They're at it again on 18:22 - Nov 15 with 2399 viewsSullutaCreturned

How about standardising the name the majority use regardless of language
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They're at it again on 18:23 - Nov 15 with 2399 viewsmajorraglan

They're at it again on 17:15 - Nov 15 by Gwyn737

With all the different GPS map tools now available, surely standardising place names is sensible 🤷‍♂️


100% on the money. It’s simply a guide for the relevant bodies to apply a consistent approach.
As a Welsh speaker I think it makes sense and welcome it.
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They're at it again on 19:20 - Nov 15 with 2349 viewsKilkennyjack

There will be 1 million Welsh speakers by 2050.

Many nations in the world use 2 languages.
Cymru is no different.

Its a good thing and a very small amount of money relative to the money lost to PPE corruption, Truss budget, illegal wars, non-flights to Rwanda, the useless Bibby Stockholm gimmick and defending the useless Johnson legal costs.

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They're at it again on 19:24 - Nov 15 with 2341 viewsWhiterockin

They're at it again on 19:20 - Nov 15 by Kilkennyjack

There will be 1 million Welsh speakers by 2050.

Many nations in the world use 2 languages.
Cymru is no different.

Its a good thing and a very small amount of money relative to the money lost to PPE corruption, Truss budget, illegal wars, non-flights to Rwanda, the useless Bibby Stockholm gimmick and defending the useless Johnson legal costs.


Define welsh speakers.

https://senedd.wales/senedd-now/news/one-million-welsh-speakers-target-at-risk-d

As for the wasted money, it's not relevant because it was Westminster spend not Senedd.
[Post edited 15 Nov 2023 19:26]
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They're at it again on 19:36 - Nov 15 with 2316 viewshowenjack

Is that Ken Moon or Keith Moon ?
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They're at it again on 20:34 - Nov 15 with 2232 viewsBoundy

They're at it again on 19:20 - Nov 15 by Kilkennyjack

There will be 1 million Welsh speakers by 2050.

Many nations in the world use 2 languages.
Cymru is no different.

Its a good thing and a very small amount of money relative to the money lost to PPE corruption, Truss budget, illegal wars, non-flights to Rwanda, the useless Bibby Stockholm gimmick and defending the useless Johnson legal costs.


Wrong , it's in decline ,significantly so.The 1 million you quote is anuntainable figure based on wishful thinking.Not that I'm against it but what I am againgst is wasting yet more money because of rabid nationalism in these hard times is a disgrace

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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They're at it again on 20:57 - Nov 15 with 2184 viewslifelong

They're at it again on 20:34 - Nov 15 by Boundy

Wrong , it's in decline ,significantly so.The 1 million you quote is anuntainable figure based on wishful thinking.Not that I'm against it but what I am againgst is wasting yet more money because of rabid nationalism in these hard times is a disgrace


There are 450 Welsh speaking primary schools in Wales, they are very popular. There is even one Welsh speaking primary school in London. The language is very much alive.
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They're at it again on 21:03 - Nov 15 with 2170 viewsWhiterockin

They're at it again on 20:57 - Nov 15 by lifelong

There are 450 Welsh speaking primary schools in Wales, they are very popular. There is even one Welsh speaking primary school in London. The language is very much alive.


It is a fact that as soon as they walk out of the school gate they revert back to English, why?
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They're at it again on 21:09 - Nov 15 with 2147 viewslifelong

They're at it again on 21:03 - Nov 15 by Whiterockin

It is a fact that as soon as they walk out of the school gate they revert back to English, why?


Why do parents send their children to Welsh speaking schools?
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They're at it again on 21:16 - Nov 15 with 2137 viewsKilkennyjack

They're at it again on 20:57 - Nov 15 by lifelong

There are 450 Welsh speaking primary schools in Wales, they are very popular. There is even one Welsh speaking primary school in London. The language is very much alive.


Boundy does not want to see the obvious.
He is stuck in 1974.
Pity mun.

Great post btw - the language is very much alive and thriving with the young.

Cymru has two languages and its a very special thing.
If the uk government was truly a modern union it would be funding the welsh language as a national and international treasure.
Parliament renovation alone may take 76 years and cost £22,000,000.000.
This alone equates to some 500 years of welsh language funding.

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They're at it again on 21:17 - Nov 15 with 2134 viewsKilkennyjack

They're at it again on 19:24 - Nov 15 by Whiterockin

Define welsh speakers.

https://senedd.wales/senedd-now/news/one-million-welsh-speakers-target-at-risk-d

As for the wasted money, it's not relevant because it was Westminster spend not Senedd.
[Post edited 15 Nov 2023 19:26]


Westminster funds the Senedd.

Got it now ?

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They're at it again on 21:17 - Nov 15 with 2134 viewsWhiterockin

They're at it again on 21:09 - Nov 15 by lifelong

Why do parents send their children to Welsh speaking schools?


Quite often it is the local school. It probably depends where you live. My grandchildren have gone to welsh schools so I can speak from experience.
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They're at it again on 21:28 - Nov 15 with 2106 viewsKilkennyjack

They're at it again on 21:09 - Nov 15 by lifelong

Why do parents send their children to Welsh speaking schools?


It offers a distinct and positive culture - and an additional language to enjoy on a daily basis.

Proven to make learning further languages far easier, than our monoglot English friends and family.
🇬🇧

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They're at it again on 22:35 - Nov 15 with 2032 viewsBoundy

They're at it again on 21:16 - Nov 15 by Kilkennyjack

Boundy does not want to see the obvious.
He is stuck in 1974.
Pity mun.

Great post btw - the language is very much alive and thriving with the young.

Cymru has two languages and its a very special thing.
If the uk government was truly a modern union it would be funding the welsh language as a national and international treasure.
Parliament renovation alone may take 76 years and cost £22,000,000.000.
This alone equates to some 500 years of welsh language funding.


The only one living in the past is your self ,the poster who became ex extremely irate when I posted a quotation of Cromwell's a faux Welshman , Now we've cleared that up. the use of the Welsh language is in decline whether you me or next doors cat likes it or not.
The percentage of people able to speak Welsh recorded in 2021 is the lowest ever recorded in a census.

The 2021 census was held in March that year, during the coronavirus pandemic, following periods of remote learning for children.

The Welsh government said in its analysis that it was not known how the pandemic may have affected people's reported Welsh language ability.

Deputy Welsh language commissioner Gwenith Price believed there is "considerable" work to be done to boost the language.

"The proposed Welsh Language Education Bill must therefore do more than introduce minor adjustments to the current system, and guarantee an opportunity for all learners to develop into confident Welsh speakers," she said.

She recognised the census was carried out during the pandemic and this may have affected parents' understanding of children's skills

"It would be unwise to attribute these disappointing results to the effects of the pandemic alone," Ms Price added.

Education Minister Jeremy Miles told BBC Radio Cymru's Dros Ginio he was disappointed, especially given the current enthusiasm for the language.

"These statistics are not going to make a difference to our full commitment as a government to the Welsh language strategy 2015 and the target of one million of speakers by 2050," he said.
The percentage of residents aged three and over able to speak Welsh decreased between 2011 and 2021 in all local authorities except Cardiff, Vale of Glamorgan, Rhondda Cynon Taf, and Merthyr Tydfil.

Carmarthenshire saw the largest decrease from 43.9% in 2011 to 39.9% in 2021. Carmarthenshire also saw the largest drop in Welsh speakers between the 2001 and 2011 census, the Welsh government said.
Among children and young people aged three to 15, the percentage who could speak Welsh decreased in all local authorities between 2011 and 2021.

There were small increases in the percentage of people able to speak Welsh in the younger adult age groups (aged 16 to 19, and 20 to 44 respectively), with decreases for the older age groups.

The National Eisteddfod cultural festival said it was "more important than ever" to inspire people to learn "our crucially important language".

"It's essential that the Eisteddfod continues to travel in the future, so that people in all parts of Wales get a taste of our language and culture on their doorstep," said chief executive Betsan Moses.

Heledd Fychan, Plaid Cymru's spokesperson for children, young people and the Welsh Language, said it was "extremely concerning" to see such a fall in the number of children speaking Welsh.

"This data shows that it's not enough to simply set a target - it needs to be backed up by action. The reality is we're now further away from Labour's goal of one million speakers by 2050 than we were 10 years ago," she said.

She said it showed the critical role of teachers with Welsh language abilities is, and investment in schools.

"We don't have enough of either, so if Welsh government are serious about reaching their target, they must ensure further investment in these areas."

Welsh Conservative shadow minister for the Welsh language Samuel Kurtz said the drop was "a deeply disappointing statistic that shows the Labour government is further off meeting its Cymraeg 2050 ambition than it was when it set the target of reaching a million speakers in 30 years' time"

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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They're at it again on 17:53 - Nov 16 with 1925 viewsKilkennyjack

They're at it again on 22:35 - Nov 15 by Boundy

The only one living in the past is your self ,the poster who became ex extremely irate when I posted a quotation of Cromwell's a faux Welshman , Now we've cleared that up. the use of the Welsh language is in decline whether you me or next doors cat likes it or not.
The percentage of people able to speak Welsh recorded in 2021 is the lowest ever recorded in a census.

The 2021 census was held in March that year, during the coronavirus pandemic, following periods of remote learning for children.

The Welsh government said in its analysis that it was not known how the pandemic may have affected people's reported Welsh language ability.

Deputy Welsh language commissioner Gwenith Price believed there is "considerable" work to be done to boost the language.

"The proposed Welsh Language Education Bill must therefore do more than introduce minor adjustments to the current system, and guarantee an opportunity for all learners to develop into confident Welsh speakers," she said.

She recognised the census was carried out during the pandemic and this may have affected parents' understanding of children's skills

"It would be unwise to attribute these disappointing results to the effects of the pandemic alone," Ms Price added.

Education Minister Jeremy Miles told BBC Radio Cymru's Dros Ginio he was disappointed, especially given the current enthusiasm for the language.

"These statistics are not going to make a difference to our full commitment as a government to the Welsh language strategy 2015 and the target of one million of speakers by 2050," he said.
The percentage of residents aged three and over able to speak Welsh decreased between 2011 and 2021 in all local authorities except Cardiff, Vale of Glamorgan, Rhondda Cynon Taf, and Merthyr Tydfil.

Carmarthenshire saw the largest decrease from 43.9% in 2011 to 39.9% in 2021. Carmarthenshire also saw the largest drop in Welsh speakers between the 2001 and 2011 census, the Welsh government said.
Among children and young people aged three to 15, the percentage who could speak Welsh decreased in all local authorities between 2011 and 2021.

There were small increases in the percentage of people able to speak Welsh in the younger adult age groups (aged 16 to 19, and 20 to 44 respectively), with decreases for the older age groups.

The National Eisteddfod cultural festival said it was "more important than ever" to inspire people to learn "our crucially important language".

"It's essential that the Eisteddfod continues to travel in the future, so that people in all parts of Wales get a taste of our language and culture on their doorstep," said chief executive Betsan Moses.

Heledd Fychan, Plaid Cymru's spokesperson for children, young people and the Welsh Language, said it was "extremely concerning" to see such a fall in the number of children speaking Welsh.

"This data shows that it's not enough to simply set a target - it needs to be backed up by action. The reality is we're now further away from Labour's goal of one million speakers by 2050 than we were 10 years ago," she said.

She said it showed the critical role of teachers with Welsh language abilities is, and investment in schools.

"We don't have enough of either, so if Welsh government are serious about reaching their target, they must ensure further investment in these areas."

Welsh Conservative shadow minister for the Welsh language Samuel Kurtz said the drop was "a deeply disappointing statistic that shows the Labour government is further off meeting its Cymraeg 2050 ambition than it was when it set the target of reaching a million speakers in 30 years' time"


Glad to help ….


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They're at it again on 17:56 - Nov 16 with 1921 viewsBoundy

They're at it again on 17:53 - Nov 16 by Kilkennyjack

Glad to help ….



And your point is ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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They're at it again on 20:40 - Nov 16 with 1885 viewsKilkennyjack

They're at it again on 17:56 - Nov 16 by Boundy

And your point is ?


Well look at the graph innit ….

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They're at it again on 21:18 - Nov 16 with 1855 viewsBoundy

They're at it again on 20:40 - Nov 16 by Kilkennyjack

Well look at the graph innit ….


I've looked and it has no bearing on the document I took time to find, absorb and post

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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They're at it again on 16:56 - Nov 19 with 1707 viewsKilkennyjack

They're at it again on 21:18 - Nov 16 by Boundy

I've looked and it has no bearing on the document I took time to find, absorb and post


Cut and paste job.

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