| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? 22:44 - Feb 21 with 8877 views | HullDale |
After 33 games, we sit rock bottom of the EFL on 21 points, 6 points from safety having played 2 or 3 games more than most of the teams around us. W5 D6 L22 GD -25. We're the only team in Lg2 not to have won a single game in the last 5.
For reference, last season Scunthorpe were on 23 (W4 D11 L18 GD -32) and Oldham were on 31 (W7 D10 L16 GD -17)
We are losing ~£1m per year, with a small fanbase unable or unwilling to sustain that kind of financial performance. We have a battle hardened (& therefore rightly suspicious) fanbase with a battle hardened & probably battle weary board. We're likely unable to leverage our enviable assets (such as the ground) because of the layers of protection we've had to wrap around them to protect us from outside predators.
Off the field performance is seemingly a struggle as much as on the field, and a 'volunteer army' scheme that was due to be announced in January, & then by last Thursday, to help reconnect with the fanbase & to support the club still hasn't materialised (& it isn't all down to red tape, as evidenced here : https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/23334246.young-carlisle-united-fans-give-half )
The fanbase seems to be split between factions of apathy and acceptance, denial, or frustration seeping out through unacceptable personal abuse, threats and intimidation. Where once in the stands people would be passionately arguing about the right way forward, instead there are empty seats or faces numb with acceptance.
Over the years, we've seen scores of clubs relegated. On or off the field they all seemed (looking from the outside in) to be going down with a fight. Where we are now that doesn't seem to be the case. I don't know if this is how relegation is supposed to feel (who knows what actually happens at the centre of a black hole?) but it feels raw, it feels numb, and it feels weirdly like we have just accepted it & given up.
We have a board who deserve our praise and thanks for saving the club from Morton House but who now captain what feels like a listless ship, we have a manager who sounds like a broken man, we have a silent captain and a seemingly mercenary squad of players without the desire, talent or work ethic to at least give us hope.
So, are we now in a position where we pay the price for previous years of self service and mis-management? Where we suffered a managed relegation and are still feeling the repercussions? Where fans may believe we're facing one battle too many in the war to have a sustainable EFL club? Where losses both on and off the pitch mean RAFC is too far gone in its current guise?
Have we lurched to one crisis too many? & its time to reset what RAFC could be, is, and will be?
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 22:51 - Feb 21 with 6989 views | joecooke |
Were going down,were skint and were struggling for true professional football expertise.
Weve probably got a die hard 1500/2000 and have to cut our cloth accordingly .
Its going to be more competative next season than this and we need to build a structure/team that understands that. |  |
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 22:54 - Feb 21 with 6943 views | 442Dale |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 22:51 - Feb 21 by joecooke |
Were going down,were skint and were struggling for true professional football expertise.
Weve probably got a die hard 1500/2000 and have to cut our cloth accordingly .
Its going to be more competative next season than this and we need to build a structure/team that understands that. |
That’s it. We need to simplify it.
And again, we didn’t suffer a “managed relegation” from L1. |  |
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:01 - Feb 21 with 6870 views | DaleFan7 |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 22:51 - Feb 21 by joecooke |
Were going down,were skint and were struggling for true professional football expertise.
Weve probably got a die hard 1500/2000 and have to cut our cloth accordingly .
Its going to be more competative next season than this and we need to build a structure/team that understands that. |
We will always have the 1500-2000 fans that come whatever level we're playing at. We proved in League One we didn't get much more of a home following. When we go down we have to arrest our quick slide from League One to the National League otherwise we could crash straight through there, too.
Will next season be more competitive? We average less than a goal a game and don't look like scoring most of the time, doesn't matter what level you're playing at when you attack as poorly was we do. We are worse off than Scunthorpe were last season and they're second bottom. We're about 10 points worse off than Oldham and they're 3 points above relegation. The players under contract next season, Lloyd and Mullarkey aside are absolute garbage. |  | | |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:03 - Feb 21 with 6843 views | Dalenet |
My head hurts - but can't argue with much of what you say.
Of course we are in a crisis. We can't afford to be relegated and we don't know how to stop it. We can all see that it doesn't seem to be hurting some of the players who will continue to be paid handsomely next season. The fans are just shocked. No large protests. A few boo's but not much else. I compare us to Gillingham who asked the town to back them to fight relegation back in November. 'Back us or lose us'. They have seen a big up tick in support, including a few games with an almost full home attendance. Helps that they now have a new owner who has given them cash to bring on players. But the town was asked to get to the stadium and back the team or lose it and it has worked. We have had none of that - just a Board Director responding to the Telegraph that the club deserves better support. But we have to earn that. £24 to watch dire football isn't top of most peoples must do's.
I thought that the Trust might have led a campaign to drag us up from our boot straps - but with Murray on the Board I wonder if they feel conflicted? Poor Murray must be tearing his hair out. | | | |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:07 - Feb 21 with 6803 views | joecooke |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 22:54 - Feb 21 by 442Dale |
That’s it. We need to simplify it.
And again, we didn’t suffer a “managed relegation” from L1. |
Self righteous helps greatly. Prick | |
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:08 - Feb 21 with 6766 views | 442Dale |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:07 - Feb 21 by joecooke |
Self righteous helps greatly. Prick |
I was agreeing with you wholeheartedly!
That is exactly the way we should go: simplify it, get that visible structure in place and cut our cloth being vital.
Sorry it didn’t come across that way. [Post edited 21 Feb 2023 23:09]
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:16 - Feb 21 with 6656 views | D_Alien |
I'm wondering what there is for Jim Bentley to keep him here
Obviously... he's getting paid. Yep, but having tried his best, it's also so obviously not worked and i'd like to think he has some pride. In which case, he should ask to speak to Simon Gauge to work out a severance package that's fair to him and fair to the club
He's under no requirement to do so, but what faces him if he refuses to budge and the board won't put him on gardening leave. A whole load of pain, which i'm sure he doesn't need. If he goes now, and of his own volition, he can hold his head up and move on
Just do it Jim, you know it's the only thing that makes sense
Then, we can start the reset. Hopefully this week
Edit: just read what he's said in his post-match interview. No....
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:34 - Feb 21 with 6500 views | TomRAFC |
The board, fans, and players alike have lost a common enemy since we beat the takeover. We're all free to fall out again and it's starting to show.
From fan owned to being open to a majority owner, from league safety to serious risk of relegation. It all feels totally unrecognisable.
Our ramshackle team needs a new manager who knows what they're doing. Our dedicated board need another non-executive director who knows how to run a football club from the inside out. The lack of these skills is beginning to eat away at the club.
I'd love us to roll the dice and stay up. Either way we are crying out for people to bring new skills into the club if next season is going to be brighter. | |
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:34 - Feb 21 with 6492 views | JimmyRustler |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:14 - Feb 21 by 442Dale |
It’s fine! Can see how it may have been read differently, so should have thought it through myself.
There’s a lot of people who care, no problem at all with a bit of anger. The bigger problem will be the signs of fans understandably having had enough. [Post edited 21 Feb 2023 23:15]
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:37 - Feb 21 with 6464 views | DorkingDale |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:16 - Feb 21 by D_Alien |
I'm wondering what there is for Jim Bentley to keep him here
Obviously... he's getting paid. Yep, but having tried his best, it's also so obviously not worked and i'd like to think he has some pride. In which case, he should ask to speak to Simon Gauge to work out a severance package that's fair to him and fair to the club
He's under no requirement to do so, but what faces him if he refuses to budge and the board won't put him on gardening leave. A whole load of pain, which i'm sure he doesn't need. If he goes now, and of his own volition, he can hold his head up and move on
Just do it Jim, you know it's the only thing that makes sense
Then, we can start the reset. Hopefully this week
Edit: just read what he's said in his post-match interview. No....
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He sounds like the boring football fan you get stuck with at the bar - droning on & making excuses. Everything is down to bad luck or someone else's fault. He's either a good actor or else living in cloud cuckoo land. | | | |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:42 - Feb 21 with 6399 views | 442Dale |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:37 - Feb 21 by DorkingDale |
He sounds like the boring football fan you get stuck with at the bar - droning on & making excuses. Everything is down to bad luck or someone else's fault. He's either a good actor or else living in cloud cuckoo land. |
It’s something else the board/the club should have addressed before as well - identified these interviews that reflect time and again on previous moments in previous games should stop.
Week on week, we’re living Groundhog Day and those at the top are the only ones who can change it. It’s staggering we are having the same conversations after every game with no visible change.
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:42 - Feb 21 with 6397 views | TalkingSutty |
It's a crisis but not as big as the crisis that we have just been through and won. The Chairman and Directors have had a torrid time and paid a lot of money for the pleasure. It's a club that has been deliberately neglected for years by self serving individuals so none of us should be too surprised that we are where we are. When there's turmoil off the pitch it's always reflected on it. The downward spiral will stop but it will need proper footballing decisions to be made and it's no good feeling sorry for ourselves, throw off the cloak of doom and gloom and let's start planning the fightback this week.
We need a new manager quickly who is up for the fight and knows what he is doing, somebody who can ignite the fans and the club, players who care and are willing to run through brick walls and we need to see an attacking style of football and goals. All of that is achievable without having a top two budget. The National League needs to be embraced, it's a new exciting challenge and a very good standard, three up and three down will make it even better. It's amazing how a winning team who we can all associate with can suddenly lift a club and it's fans and that should be the focus now. If we are going to enter the National League with a cloud hanging over us all then we will continue on our downward trajectory so that needs to change.
This relegation isn't good but it follows on the back of the biggest victory we have ever had, most clubs our size would have succumbed to the MH takeover and gone out of existence. The fact we didn't was down to a tremendous collective effort from all of our fanbase and those in the Boardroom past and present. We've proved we can win battles when we stick together and that's what we need to do now, don't become disheartened because things will change for the better on the pitch and then we can all start enjoying the football again. At the moment it's our turn to be relegated, it's not the end of the world though, far from it. I'm already looking forward to next season and the new challenges and new grounds, also visits to Halifax and York etc. [Post edited 21 Feb 2023 23:52]
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 10:21 - Feb 22 with 5849 views | DaleiLama |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:42 - Feb 21 by TalkingSutty |
It's a crisis but not as big as the crisis that we have just been through and won. The Chairman and Directors have had a torrid time and paid a lot of money for the pleasure. It's a club that has been deliberately neglected for years by self serving individuals so none of us should be too surprised that we are where we are. When there's turmoil off the pitch it's always reflected on it. The downward spiral will stop but it will need proper footballing decisions to be made and it's no good feeling sorry for ourselves, throw off the cloak of doom and gloom and let's start planning the fightback this week.
We need a new manager quickly who is up for the fight and knows what he is doing, somebody who can ignite the fans and the club, players who care and are willing to run through brick walls and we need to see an attacking style of football and goals. All of that is achievable without having a top two budget. The National League needs to be embraced, it's a new exciting challenge and a very good standard, three up and three down will make it even better. It's amazing how a winning team who we can all associate with can suddenly lift a club and it's fans and that should be the focus now. If we are going to enter the National League with a cloud hanging over us all then we will continue on our downward trajectory so that needs to change.
This relegation isn't good but it follows on the back of the biggest victory we have ever had, most clubs our size would have succumbed to the MH takeover and gone out of existence. The fact we didn't was down to a tremendous collective effort from all of our fanbase and those in the Boardroom past and present. We've proved we can win battles when we stick together and that's what we need to do now, don't become disheartened because things will change for the better on the pitch and then we can all start enjoying the football again. At the moment it's our turn to be relegated, it's not the end of the world though, far from it. I'm already looking forward to next season and the new challenges and new grounds, also visits to Halifax and York etc. [Post edited 21 Feb 2023 23:52]
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"We need a new manager quickly who is up for the fight and knows what he is doing, somebody who can ignite the fans and the club" ............
Was discussing our current demise with my Imps-following mate. They went down into the NL and he described things at the time as grim. ~1k STs sold, crowds typically 2k +/- and a fairly bleak outlook. Enter the Cowleys. Toured round all the schools, got the City enthused again, brought pride back to the squad and fans and things mushroomed, culminating in a return to L1 after back-to-back promotions, and that FA Cup run. Beat Guiseley 2-1 away in 4th round qualifying, Alty 2-1 (h) in 1st round, Latics 3-2 (h) in second round (7k crowd), Ipswich 1-0 away in 3rd round replay with 5k away fans @ Portman Road, beat Brighton (h) 3-1 in 4th round, Burnley (a) 1-0 in 5th, then battered in QF at the Emirates by Arsenal in front of 9k away fans.
Even through the most blue-tinted specs ever made, no one could ever imagine Dale achieving that kind of following (last season average gate = nearly 9k), as has been discussed ad infinitum on here, for all the well know and documented reasons. The triple irony is that we did a slightly less supercharged version of this with our own promotions and Cup successes under Hilly, we now look nailed on to follow the path of their demise falling out of the league and they are now mid-table in L1, playing some of the most boring BBM-ball under their current incumbent, Mark Kennedy, getting draw after draw at home and boring their fans rigid. Oh to be bored rigid by L1 BBM-ball again rather than the precipice we find ourselves at today.
Rather a long-winded way of agreeing with you TS. We need a totemic leader now - someone who everyone connected with the club can rally around to lead us out of this fall from grace. If we have fans who have the right background (KnavesmireBob) to assist in the selection process and the club is open to this, let's make use of our volunteer army. It isn't a sign of weakness asking for help, it's a sign of strength! [Post edited 22 Feb 2023 10:45]
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 10:37 - Feb 22 with 5805 views | 49thseason |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:37 - Feb 21 by DorkingDale |
He sounds like the boring football fan you get stuck with at the bar - droning on & making excuses. Everything is down to bad luck or someone else's fault. He's either a good actor or else living in cloud cuckoo land. |
Hes a scouser, denial is part of his DNA |  | | |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 10:54 - Feb 22 with 5747 views | AtThePeake |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 10:21 - Feb 22 by DaleiLama |
"We need a new manager quickly who is up for the fight and knows what he is doing, somebody who can ignite the fans and the club" ............
Was discussing our current demise with my Imps-following mate. They went down into the NL and he described things at the time as grim. ~1k STs sold, crowds typically 2k +/- and a fairly bleak outlook. Enter the Cowleys. Toured round all the schools, got the City enthused again, brought pride back to the squad and fans and things mushroomed, culminating in a return to L1 after back-to-back promotions, and that FA Cup run. Beat Guiseley 2-1 away in 4th round qualifying, Alty 2-1 (h) in 1st round, Latics 3-2 (h) in second round (7k crowd), Ipswich 1-0 away in 3rd round replay with 5k away fans @ Portman Road, beat Brighton (h) 3-1 in 4th round, Burnley (a) 1-0 in 5th, then battered in QF at the Emirates by Arsenal in front of 9k away fans.
Even through the most blue-tinted specs ever made, no one could ever imagine Dale achieving that kind of following (last season average gate = nearly 9k), as has been discussed ad infinitum on here, for all the well know and documented reasons. The triple irony is that we did a slightly less supercharged version of this with our own promotions and Cup successes under Hilly, we now look nailed on to follow the path of their demise falling out of the league and they are now mid-table in L1, playing some of the most boring BBM-ball under their current incumbent, Mark Kennedy, getting draw after draw at home and boring their fans rigid. Oh to be bored rigid by L1 BBM-ball again rather than the precipice we find ourselves at today.
Rather a long-winded way of agreeing with you TS. We need a totemic leader now - someone who everyone connected with the club can rally around to lead us out of this fall from grace. If we have fans who have the right background (KnavesmireBob) to assist in the selection process and the club is open to this, let's make use of our volunteer army. It isn't a sign of weakness asking for help, it's a sign of strength! [Post edited 22 Feb 2023 10:45]
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Fair to say their owner who founded a hedge-fund management company had a fair bit to do with that rise too. |  |
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 10:54 - Feb 22 with 5743 views | 442Dale |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 10:37 - Feb 22 by 49thseason |
Hes a scouser, denial is part of his DNA |
Does that apply to Shaun Reid, Alan Reeves and Gary Jones?
Maybe it could be explained to them. | |
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 11:15 - Feb 22 with 5681 views | rafc1977 |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 23:42 - Feb 21 by TalkingSutty |
It's a crisis but not as big as the crisis that we have just been through and won. The Chairman and Directors have had a torrid time and paid a lot of money for the pleasure. It's a club that has been deliberately neglected for years by self serving individuals so none of us should be too surprised that we are where we are. When there's turmoil off the pitch it's always reflected on it. The downward spiral will stop but it will need proper footballing decisions to be made and it's no good feeling sorry for ourselves, throw off the cloak of doom and gloom and let's start planning the fightback this week.
We need a new manager quickly who is up for the fight and knows what he is doing, somebody who can ignite the fans and the club, players who care and are willing to run through brick walls and we need to see an attacking style of football and goals. All of that is achievable without having a top two budget. The National League needs to be embraced, it's a new exciting challenge and a very good standard, three up and three down will make it even better. It's amazing how a winning team who we can all associate with can suddenly lift a club and it's fans and that should be the focus now. If we are going to enter the National League with a cloud hanging over us all then we will continue on our downward trajectory so that needs to change.
This relegation isn't good but it follows on the back of the biggest victory we have ever had, most clubs our size would have succumbed to the MH takeover and gone out of existence. The fact we didn't was down to a tremendous collective effort from all of our fanbase and those in the Boardroom past and present. We've proved we can win battles when we stick together and that's what we need to do now, don't become disheartened because things will change for the better on the pitch and then we can all start enjoying the football again. At the moment it's our turn to be relegated, it's not the end of the world though, far from it. I'm already looking forward to next season and the new challenges and new grounds, also visits to Halifax and York etc. [Post edited 21 Feb 2023 23:52]
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A measured response TS, and one in which a lot of sense is made. The irony is in my view that the Board who DID pull us out of the mire through the MH debacle (and paid a pretty penny for the privilege) are the only ones who can stop the slide.
Every game here on in that Bentley remains in charge will just attract more pressure and ill feeling, and with every passing game we edge nearer to the end of season and taking this negativity and dark cloud down with us. Everything at the minute feels like were doing the same thing and expecting a different result....only it never comes.
The board need to act its that simple. Jim has had a go, its not worked out and that's the way it goes sometimes. Do I think Hilly, Askey or anyone else would do a better job? Not sure, impossible to tell, but they couldn't do worse.
Nothing against the bloke but the long and short of it is Jim has to go, and go now for his sake, the clubs sake, the boards sake & ours. If the planning and fightback to tackle next season is to start to take shape, then him going is the first action that needs sorting.
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 11:38 - Feb 22 with 5612 views | 49thseason |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 10:54 - Feb 22 by 442Dale |
Does that apply to Shaun Reid, Alan Reeves and Gary Jones?
Maybe it could be explained to them. |
Not applicable, they havent been found out as being unable to do the job they were paid for. I have worked with dozens of Bentley types, there are always " reasons", they are simply incapable of admitting that its their fault. Bentley has retreated into his protective shell.. Im a human being" ( please dont shout at me) " its fine margins" ( I'm really not as bad as you think I am), " simple as..." ( if they just make one little change it will be OK) " I inherited this team" ( its not really my fault) etc etc. I would be much more supportive if he just admitted that he can't do anything to turn this lot around and walked away. My worry is that he will point to Lloyd and Mullarkey and say they prove he is capable, when everyone else will conclude they are just a couple decent footballers in a dreadfull squad and point to Eastwood, Dodgson, Quigley and Mellor as example of loanees who have added virtually nothing. | | | |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 11:43 - Feb 22 with 5583 views | 442Dale |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 11:38 - Feb 22 by 49thseason |
Not applicable, they havent been found out as being unable to do the job they were paid for. I have worked with dozens of Bentley types, there are always " reasons", they are simply incapable of admitting that its their fault. Bentley has retreated into his protective shell.. Im a human being" ( please dont shout at me) " its fine margins" ( I'm really not as bad as you think I am), " simple as..." ( if they just make one little change it will be OK) " I inherited this team" ( its not really my fault) etc etc. I would be much more supportive if he just admitted that he can't do anything to turn this lot around and walked away. My worry is that he will point to Lloyd and Mullarkey and say they prove he is capable, when everyone else will conclude they are just a couple decent footballers in a dreadfull squad and point to Eastwood, Dodgson, Quigley and Mellor as example of loanees who have added virtually nothing. |
We’ve all worked with people who say and do similar. We’ve all seen people at Spotland who say and do similar. They’ve been from a variety of places. Even Rochdale.
So it’s not part of the DNA of people from a certain part of the country because otherwise it’d be applicable to those mentioned. | |
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 12:23 - Feb 22 with 5465 views | TVOS1907 |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 11:38 - Feb 22 by 49thseason |
Not applicable, they havent been found out as being unable to do the job they were paid for. I have worked with dozens of Bentley types, there are always " reasons", they are simply incapable of admitting that its their fault. Bentley has retreated into his protective shell.. Im a human being" ( please dont shout at me) " its fine margins" ( I'm really not as bad as you think I am), " simple as..." ( if they just make one little change it will be OK) " I inherited this team" ( its not really my fault) etc etc. I would be much more supportive if he just admitted that he can't do anything to turn this lot around and walked away. My worry is that he will point to Lloyd and Mullarkey and say they prove he is capable, when everyone else will conclude they are just a couple decent footballers in a dreadfull squad and point to Eastwood, Dodgson, Quigley and Mellor as example of loanees who have added virtually nothing. |
I'm surprised you didn't say he had retreated into his protective shell suit.... |  |
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 12:23 - Feb 22 with 5463 views | TVOS1907 |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 10:54 - Feb 22 by 442Dale |
Does that apply to Shaun Reid, Alan Reeves and Gary Jones?
Maybe it could be explained to them. |
Or Danny Lloyd | |
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| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 13:06 - Feb 22 with 5280 views | 49thseason |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 12:23 - Feb 22 by TVOS1907 |
I'm surprised you didn't say he had retreated into his protective shell suit.... |
Theres no 'arms in it..... | | | |
| A Moment of Clarity - Is RAFC a Club in Crisis? on 16:50 - Mar 25 with 4422 views | HullDale |
I'll answer my own question. Yes.
On the pitch & off the pitch we are a disaster.
It makes me angry. It makes me sad. But more than anything else, I'm totally disillusioned.
Is there a chance that there may be an investor in the wings, who has agreed to buy the board out at their £2.35, but is waiting until we are relegated to sweep up the remaining available shares at a discounted rate once we are officially a non league club?
Does anyone know the non-league equivalent of the EFL owners and directors test? Should we be worried? | | | |
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