| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action 22:01 - Nov 20 with 38929 views | aberhugh |
The violent scenes today in the East stand are a disgrace and were instigated by a group who have in the past displayed openly racist behaviour. During the Cardiff game my daughter and I called out two of this group for shouting racist insults which were vile. Prior to this she had spoken to them about booing taking the knee to which the reply was 'It's political'
Following the game I e-mailed the club with detailed information about the racist behaviour of this group. There was also health and safety concerns regarding these people standing on seats and when we scored and falling on to supporters in front of them and injuring one guy.
I made it clear that I felt this behaviour would be repeated and some overt stewarding would be required with senior stewards present. If my suggestions had been implemented decisive intervention today when the flags were displayed would have prevented the violent scenes. I feel let down by the club and unsupported when tackling racism on the terraces. Lots of fine words before the Cardiff game have not been backed up by action to root out racists. The club must support the fans when they call out racist behaviour as well as their players. My wife tackled them today about booing taking the knee.
I exchanged a number of e-mails with people in the club and identified the problem and perpetrators. The club must now take action to stop this blatant racism and protect the health and safety of supporters. It is time they took seriously their duty of care to us and not leave it to us to police people's behaviour. |  | | |  |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 18:04 - Nov 25 with 972 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 17:03 - Nov 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea were in the league right at the start of the English leagues. It is not a racial matter. Its linked to historical precedent geography and professional sport. Loyalism is a political movement of some sort I do not have much interest in to be honest. its political therefore should be banned on flags representing Swansea city to prevent the club used as a tool to recruit for others (without payment).
Birch allowed the BLM to be advertised by the club without payment. A mistake. |
Eh ! Lost me after the 1st sentence. |  | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 18:11 - Nov 25 with 962 views | Swanseaman |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 18:02 - Nov 25 by trampie |
That is what I worked out in my head and that is why I said it, I took the highest figure like you and thought hello the majority of people that identify as Welsh could be for independence, like I said those figures seem very high, lots of people that identify as Welsh have clearly had enough of Westminster, pity incomers are skewing the Welsh vote truth be said, many think they skewed the Brexit vote in Wales from one way to the other way |
With the polls hovering around 28% to 33% now, it would be a close one. 28% of the 3.1M would work out as 44.5% out of the people who identify as Welsh. |  |
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| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 18:11 - Nov 25 with 962 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 23:37 - Nov 23 by Badlands |
Where are we on the racism spectrum?
Look at 73-73 thread
Kyle Rittenhouse
A true American hero. |
What does a white man shooting three white men that were attacking him got to do with race again?
I’m sure this world can’t get more bizarre. |  |
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| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 18:26 - Nov 25 with 940 views | trampie |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 18:11 - Nov 25 by Swanseaman |
With the polls hovering around 28% to 33% now, it would be a close one. 28% of the 3.1M would work out as 44.5% out of the people who identify as Welsh. |
Indeed, I would have expected it to have been far lower but apparently not, the craving for independence is far stronger than I expected amongst those that identify as Welsh. |  |
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| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 18:57 - Nov 25 with 919 views | Catullus |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 18:11 - Nov 25 by Swanseaman |
With the polls hovering around 28% to 33% now, it would be a close one. 28% of the 3.1M would work out as 44.5% out of the people who identify as Welsh. |
About 1.8 million identified as Welsh only in 2011, not sure what it is now but apparently the number has been falling.
In October 2020 only 23% said they supported going indy, of 3.1 million people that's around 700,000 so not even a majority of those who identify as Welsh support indy, it's about 37%.
53% said they'd vote against it, 16% didn't know and the rest weren't bothered either way. So even if all the don't knows went to indy it'd be 14% short of winning. | |
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| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 18:59 - Nov 25 with 918 views | LoyalSwansea |
South Wales Police have since banned the 4 boys who had the union flag from the ground with the club supporting them!!
This is absolute farce decision when they were the ones attacked | | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:06 - Nov 25 with 907 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 18:59 - Nov 25 by LoyalSwansea |
South Wales Police have since banned the 4 boys who had the union flag from the ground with the club supporting them!!
This is absolute farce decision when they were the ones attacked |
Hmm that’s a strange decision.
What reasoning have they give for that? |  | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:08 - Nov 25 with 903 views | trampie |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 18:59 - Nov 25 by LoyalSwansea |
South Wales Police have since banned the 4 boys who had the union flag from the ground with the club supporting them!!
This is absolute farce decision when they were the ones attacked |
Are the police able to ban them from the ground so quickly ?, or is it the club banned them and the police will try to make sure the ban is enforced. | |
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| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:14 - Nov 25 with 896 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:08 - Nov 25 by trampie |
Are the police able to ban them from the ground so quickly ?, or is it the club banned them and the police will try to make sure the ban is enforced. |
I only seen the big lad being escorted out of ground and that was more because people were attacking him, I forgot his name now (wouldn’t put it on here anyway) but I’m sure I met him at Bristol and he seemed a decent enough fella.
They’ve used camera footage and ticket details to ban the others have they?
Not sure I agree with that at all. | | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:14 - Nov 25 with 894 views | Swanseaman |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 18:59 - Nov 25 by LoyalSwansea |
South Wales Police have since banned the 4 boys who had the union flag from the ground with the club supporting them!!
This is absolute farce decision when they were the ones attacked |
I can't find any news about it online. | |
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| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:20 - Nov 25 with 879 views | LoyalSwansea |
They were asked by the club to come in so they can move forward and ensure the scenes Saturday wouldn’t be repeated and they got ambushed by the police in attendance issuing a stadium ban whilst the investigate what happened and have been told they will push for 3 year bans!
The club are an absolute joke not one of the people throwing punches Saturday have been identified
Matthew Daniel the operations manager has been deceitful in his emails and have done the absolute dirty by doing this to 4 young swansea city fans who ONLY crime was having a union flag | | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:22 - Nov 25 with 869 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:20 - Nov 25 by LoyalSwansea |
They were asked by the club to come in so they can move forward and ensure the scenes Saturday wouldn’t be repeated and they got ambushed by the police in attendance issuing a stadium ban whilst the investigate what happened and have been told they will push for 3 year bans!
The club are an absolute joke not one of the people throwing punches Saturday have been identified
Matthew Daniel the operations manager has been deceitful in his emails and have done the absolute dirty by doing this to 4 young swansea city fans who ONLY crime was having a union flag |
No appeals process or anything like that? Sounds like a carve up. | | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:24 - Nov 25 with 865 views | trampie |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:20 - Nov 25 by LoyalSwansea |
They were asked by the club to come in so they can move forward and ensure the scenes Saturday wouldn’t be repeated and they got ambushed by the police in attendance issuing a stadium ban whilst the investigate what happened and have been told they will push for 3 year bans!
The club are an absolute joke not one of the people throwing punches Saturday have been identified
Matthew Daniel the operations manager has been deceitful in his emails and have done the absolute dirty by doing this to 4 young swansea city fans who ONLY crime was having a union flag |
Waving a Union flag in the home end of a Welsh club is not the most sensible thing to do. | |
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| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:26 - Nov 25 with 863 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:24 - Nov 25 by trampie |
Waving a Union flag in the home end of a Welsh club is not the most sensible thing to do. |
No one has ever said anything previously though, surely can’t stay banning people for political reasons? | | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:33 - Nov 25 with 849 views | trampie |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:26 - Nov 25 by 34dfgdf54 |
No one has ever said anything previously though, surely can’t stay banning people for political reasons? |
Have they been waving them about in people's faces before ?, the key word being waving. | |
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| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:33 - Nov 25 with 849 views | NotLoyal |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:20 - Nov 25 by LoyalSwansea |
They were asked by the club to come in so they can move forward and ensure the scenes Saturday wouldn’t be repeated and they got ambushed by the police in attendance issuing a stadium ban whilst the investigate what happened and have been told they will push for 3 year bans!
The club are an absolute joke not one of the people throwing punches Saturday have been identified
Matthew Daniel the operations manager has been deceitful in his emails and have done the absolute dirty by doing this to 4 young swansea city fans who ONLY crime was having a union flag |
Police can't issue a stadium ban that has to be ratified by the club then the police can issue the ban. But it isn't necessary, as a ban is a ban. So the club issued the ban. Things getting lost in translation already. The club issues the ban and the length is decided by the club. If these lads are charged and found guilty then the police request a 3 year ban via the courts. As happens everywhere.
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| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:47 - Nov 25 with 824 views | Treforys_Jack |
They should have been relocated and told to leave their "loyal" flags at home. The big fella in the blue jacket looked like he was causing most of the issues from where I was standing, roughly 10 rows behind and slightly to the righ Trying to offer out and being abusive to most of the East stand is unlikely to end well. He was the only one causing issues from what I could see, don't know why the others have recieved banning orders. Still think there will be a few more hearing from plod. | | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:47 - Nov 25 with 823 views | KeithHaynes |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:26 - Nov 25 by 34dfgdf54 |
No one has ever said anything previously though, surely can’t stay banning people for political reasons? |
A union flag alone isn’t political ? |  |
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| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:51 - Nov 25 with 813 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:47 - Nov 25 by KeithHaynes |
A union flag alone isn’t political ? |
I wrongly assumed the UJ with "London is our capital" on it was purely to wind up them up the road, as the Cardiff game was the first time I'd seen it. Obviously I was wrong. | | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:52 - Nov 25 with 813 views | LoyalSwansea |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:24 - Nov 25 by trampie |
Waving a Union flag in the home end of a Welsh club is not the most sensible thing to do. |
A British flag in a British club stadium
This is an absolute farce!!! | | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:54 - Nov 25 with 808 views | trampie |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:51 - Nov 25 by Treforys_Jack |
I wrongly assumed the UJ with "London is our capital" on it was purely to wind up them up the road, as the Cardiff game was the first time I'd seen it. Obviously I was wrong. |
A double play perhaps, wind Kaardiff up and wind some Swans fans up that strongly identify as Welsh. | |
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| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 20:00 - Nov 25 with 799 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:54 - Nov 25 by trampie |
A double play perhaps, wind Kaardiff up and wind some Swans fans up that strongly identify as Welsh. |
The lad with the UJ looked very confrontational, maybe he'd had a few. The few with him seemed relativel quiet. | | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 20:09 - Nov 25 with 782 views | LoyalSwansea |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 19:51 - Nov 25 by Treforys_Jack |
I wrongly assumed the UJ with "London is our capital" on it was purely to wind up them up the road, as the Cardiff game was the first time I'd seen it. Obviously I was wrong. |
It wasn’t that flag that they were holding!
And why the fck is there a huge obsession with buddying up with cardiff esp on derby days when that flag was brought out?
This is a carve up and anyone not appalled by this decision is part of the problem in this snowflake society | | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 20:20 - Nov 25 with 762 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 20:09 - Nov 25 by LoyalSwansea |
It wasn’t that flag that they were holding!
And why the fck is there a huge obsession with buddying up with cardiff esp on derby days when that flag was brought out?
This is a carve up and anyone not appalled by this decision is part of the problem in this snowflake society |
Not wanting flags with sectarian nonsense on them is hardly budding up with Cardiff. | | | |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 20:24 - Nov 25 with 751 views | LoyalSwansea |
| Racist behaviour and a lack of club action on 20:20 - Nov 25 by Treforys_Jack |
Not wanting flags with sectarian nonsense on them is hardly budding up with Cardiff. |
What is sectarian about the word loyalist or saying London is our capital (as a dig back about them constantly saying they are our capital)
Please enlighten me!! | | | |
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