| Jeff Stelling 18:49 - Jan 9 with 5520 views | RotherhamDale |
Apparently Jeff Stelling was moaning today after we equalised... because of our players having a pile on and therefore not social distancing.
Maybe they could do some important work like sit in a studio with a load of other people and watch football? |  |
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| Jeff Stelling on 18:55 - Jan 9 with 4294 views | onedalefan |
While I can appreciate that emotions take over when you have come back from 3 down, I actually agree with him. In the current climate, it should be stressed to players that celebrations like that are not needed. |  | | |
| Jeff Stelling on 18:56 - Jan 9 with 4290 views | Dalenet |
Given the guidance issued by the EFL and the fact we had just been hit as a team, I thought he had a point. He didn't make a meal of it - just said that it was something none of us want to see right now. I agree as much as I was delighted with the equaliser |  | | |
| Jeff Stelling on 19:08 - Jan 9 with 4207 views | RotherhamDale |
But its ok to run around grappling/kicking each other and holding eachother at corners and set pieces? | |
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| Jeff Stelling on 19:14 - Jan 9 with 4167 views | 442Dale |
| Jeff Stelling on 19:08 - Jan 9 by RotherhamDale |
But its ok to run around grappling/kicking each other and holding eachother at corners and set pieces? |
Well that’s the argument now around whether games will carry on should infections rise. Minimising risk has always been the aim at whatever stage things are at. Right now if it’s deemed ok to play games, contact during play is unavoidable, jumping all over each other like they did after the third goal is. |  |
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| Jeff Stelling on 19:21 - Jan 9 with 4126 views | nordenblue |
Be reet,dont panic as long as they all wear their masks walking in and out of the ground, its a "covid safe" environment this football malarkey | | | |
| Jeff Stelling on 19:25 - Jan 9 with 4108 views | 442Dale |
| Jeff Stelling on 19:21 - Jan 9 by nordenblue |
Be reet,dont panic as long as they all wear their masks walking in and out of the ground, its a "covid safe" environment this football malarkey |
It’s certainly a lot less safe now, like many work places which have either been closed or seen further tightening of restrictions. Would not be surprised for a pause to come at some stage, much as we may see other sectors affected which will lead to others being unable to work like last March. Fingers crossed it doesn’t come to that. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 19:29]
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| Jeff Stelling on 19:27 - Jan 9 with 4095 views | judd |
Stelling has had it in for us ever since we sacked the gala dinner nonsense and he lost the gig |  |
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| Jeff Stelling on 19:28 - Jan 9 with 4079 views | 442Dale |
| Jeff Stelling on 19:27 - Jan 9 by judd |
Stelling has had it in for us ever since we sacked the gala dinner nonsense and he lost the gig |
Not sure it’s that, maybe just got a little bit carriaged away today. | |
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| Jeff Stelling on 19:47 - Jan 9 with 3993 views | finberty |
| Jeff Stelling on 19:27 - Jan 9 by judd |
Stelling has had it in for us ever since we sacked the gala dinner nonsense and he lost the gig |
Stelling and co are contractually obliged, I think, to find something to get over-excited, indignant or appalled by. Today it's us.
How did Hartlepool get on in their league match? |  | | |
| Jeff Stelling on 19:55 - Jan 9 with 3947 views | nordenblue |
| Jeff Stelling on 19:25 - Jan 9 by 442Dale |
It’s certainly a lot less safe now, like many work places which have either been closed or seen further tightening of restrictions. Would not be surprised for a pause to come at some stage, much as we may see other sectors affected which will lead to others being unable to work like last March. Fingers crossed it doesn’t come to that. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 19:29]
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Its no less safe now,nothings changed its clearly never been safe, it was just as "safe" months back when clubs all paid a small fortune for these "covid safe" measures to be implemented. | | | |
| Jeff Stelling on 20:00 - Jan 9 with 3930 views | 442Dale |
| Jeff Stelling on 19:55 - Jan 9 by nordenblue |
Its no less safe now,nothings changed its clearly never been safe, it was just as "safe" months back when clubs all paid a small fortune for these "covid safe" measures to be implemented. |
The risk of transmission is much higher and players/staff should always have been following strict protocols, which admittedly as seen today have been overlooked at times - as they are by many. The risk level has increased illustrated by the increase in positive tests and games being called off illustrates.
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| Jeff Stelling on 20:55 - Jan 9 with 3772 views | nordenblue |
| Jeff Stelling on 20:00 - Jan 9 by 442Dale |
The risk of transmission is much higher and players/staff should always have been following strict protocols, which admittedly as seen today have been overlooked at times - as they are by many. The risk level has increased illustrated by the increase in positive tests and games being called off illustrates.
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"Players should always have been following strict protocols" jesus I think Kyle Walkers been caught at more lockdown parties than he's appeared for City in these last few months...
There was never a single ounce of doubt that the virus would rip through football, its impossible for it not to do, again a ridiculous idea to even start the season.
Most games are played out like a knock about and when you're faced with scenarios like Derbys game today and Villas last night its an absolute farce its even continuing. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 20:56]
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| Jeff Stelling on 20:56 - Jan 9 with 3763 views | Dalenet |
| Jeff Stelling on 19:08 - Jan 9 by RotherhamDale |
But its ok to run around grappling/kicking each other and holding eachother at corners and set pieces? |
No not really but that's the game. But when the country is trying to get people to behave and somebody dies every 72 seconds right now, we can do without it. That's all. If somebody that can wants to suspend the season is looking for proof they can easily find it when that happens | | | |
| Jeff Stelling on 21:18 - Jan 9 with 3693 views | 442Dale |
| Jeff Stelling on 20:55 - Jan 9 by nordenblue |
"Players should always have been following strict protocols" jesus I think Kyle Walkers been caught at more lockdown parties than he's appeared for City in these last few months...
There was never a single ounce of doubt that the virus would rip through football, its impossible for it not to do, again a ridiculous idea to even start the season.
Most games are played out like a knock about and when you're faced with scenarios like Derbys game today and Villas last night its an absolute farce its even continuing. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 20:56]
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Which is why I mentioned that there are indeed valid arguments for a pause now. As with any other industry/sector, what was deemed ok to continue in the last six months, may not be now. Which is why schools have now been impacted. Sure there will be people on here who have also been impacted at work or may be in the future as their ability to carry out their normal roles is affected.
The decision makers of the game, like everywhere else, have some real choices to make. However if they hadn’t started the season, should other people have returned to factories/offices/working in construction in a team etc? It’s all back to minimising risk, yes contact sports are obviously carrying a higher risk but then again so is sharing a work’s van. There were some hard decisions to make, and there still will be. We won’t all agree on them all but if football hadn’t started the season clubs would have gone to the wall and people would have been out of work - again, like other sectors.
The virus appears to moving through most areas now, one advantage football actually has is that they are now tested twice a week. The stupid thing is that should always have been happening to reduce that aforementioned risk further. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 21:25]
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| Jeff Stelling on 21:42 - Jan 9 with 3616 views | nordenblue |
| Jeff Stelling on 21:18 - Jan 9 by 442Dale |
Which is why I mentioned that there are indeed valid arguments for a pause now. As with any other industry/sector, what was deemed ok to continue in the last six months, may not be now. Which is why schools have now been impacted. Sure there will be people on here who have also been impacted at work or may be in the future as their ability to carry out their normal roles is affected.
The decision makers of the game, like everywhere else, have some real choices to make. However if they hadn’t started the season, should other people have returned to factories/offices/working in construction in a team etc? It’s all back to minimising risk, yes contact sports are obviously carrying a higher risk but then again so is sharing a work’s van. There were some hard decisions to make, and there still will be. We won’t all agree on them all but if football hadn’t started the season clubs would have gone to the wall and people would have been out of work - again, like other sectors.
The virus appears to moving through most areas now, one advantage football actually has is that they are now tested twice a week. The stupid thing is that should always have been happening to reduce that aforementioned risk further. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 21:25]
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Absolutely those places should all have returned to work,its a necessity most employees are saddled with mortgages they can just cover, most the jobs you mentioned also won't have anywhere near the money overflowing either football had and still has,there's ample money within the sport to comfortably look after everyone and still plenty to spare.
You cant sensibly minimise a risk where people are constantly touching and sweating all over each other, its impossible to keep any distance, that will always be a constant. | | | |
| Jeff Stelling on 22:16 - Jan 9 with 3547 views | 442Dale |
| Jeff Stelling on 21:42 - Jan 9 by nordenblue |
Absolutely those places should all have returned to work,its a necessity most employees are saddled with mortgages they can just cover, most the jobs you mentioned also won't have anywhere near the money overflowing either football had and still has,there's ample money within the sport to comfortably look after everyone and still plenty to spare.
You cant sensibly minimise a risk where people are constantly touching and sweating all over each other, its impossible to keep any distance, that will always be a constant. |
Unfortunately as we’ve seen with the £375k payout Dale got, football isn’t very good at redistributing its money. And much as small businesses may go bust in some sectors whilst larger ones survive, the smaller clubs will have been grateful for the chance to get going again when it was deemed safe. And that’s exactly what happened as players and possibly more pertinently, other club staff have the same mortgages and bills to pay.
They did sensibly minimise the risk as there were very few issues in the sport initially. Now there are and so, like other sectors, a decision may need to be made. Would totally understand if it was paused now, other may disagree. Much as some would disagree if the lockdown went further and their own jobs were affected. | |
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| Jeff Stelling on 22:22 - Jan 9 with 3513 views | D_Alien |
| Jeff Stelling on 22:16 - Jan 9 by 442Dale |
Unfortunately as we’ve seen with the £375k payout Dale got, football isn’t very good at redistributing its money. And much as small businesses may go bust in some sectors whilst larger ones survive, the smaller clubs will have been grateful for the chance to get going again when it was deemed safe. And that’s exactly what happened as players and possibly more pertinently, other club staff have the same mortgages and bills to pay.
They did sensibly minimise the risk as there were very few issues in the sport initially. Now there are and so, like other sectors, a decision may need to be made. Would totally understand if it was paused now, other may disagree. Much as some would disagree if the lockdown went further and their own jobs were affected. |
By the same token, i'd hope that no-one going out to work alongside others, comes home and engages with touching and sweating all over their partners |  |
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| Jeff Stelling on 22:24 - Jan 9 with 3502 views | macro |
That's remember these players were tested twice this week and came back negative. Lets all shake hands and politely nod at a goal. I was glad they celebrated and showed some passion. They are wrestling and grappling one another at corners etc. |  | | |
| Jeff Stelling on 22:28 - Jan 9 with 3488 views | macro |
| Jeff Stelling on 20:56 - Jan 9 by Dalenet |
No not really but that's the game. But when the country is trying to get people to behave and somebody dies every 72 seconds right now, we can do without it. That's all. If somebody that can wants to suspend the season is looking for proof they can easily find it when that happens |
The season won't be suspended - regular testing - Euros and Olympics - tight schedule and pressure from FIFA/UEFA
Games will get played. Football won't be suspended. I'd imagine all players/cocahes etc at the Euros and competitors at the Olympics will all be vaccinated | | | |
| Jeff Stelling on 22:28 - Jan 9 with 3487 views | 442Dale |
| Jeff Stelling on 22:22 - Jan 9 by D_Alien |
By the same token, i'd hope that no-one going out to work alongside others, comes home and engages with touching and sweating all over their partners |
And of course the recent closure of schools has illustrated how that close contact in certain environments is deemed as having an impact.
It appears that many more children are in school at present than there were last March as some jobs are now able to continue thus changing the ‘key worker’ status. How would people react if a further change was made so that they key workers were only those listed last year if further restrictions are required? That’s the point I’m trying to make; rightly or wrongly they decide on a job/sector/industry and deem it safe to continue. Football is one of those up for discussion. | |
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| Jeff Stelling on 22:33 - Jan 9 with 3467 views | nordenblue |
| Jeff Stelling on 22:16 - Jan 9 by 442Dale |
Unfortunately as we’ve seen with the £375k payout Dale got, football isn’t very good at redistributing its money. And much as small businesses may go bust in some sectors whilst larger ones survive, the smaller clubs will have been grateful for the chance to get going again when it was deemed safe. And that’s exactly what happened as players and possibly more pertinently, other club staff have the same mortgages and bills to pay.
They did sensibly minimise the risk as there were very few issues in the sport initially. Now there are and so, like other sectors, a decision may need to be made. Would totally understand if it was paused now, other may disagree. Much as some would disagree if the lockdown went further and their own jobs were affected. |
They've not changed how they've dealt with the risk.
With such close contact essential whilst playing football the massive increase in infections was always inevitable regardless of the rate away from the sport. | | | |
| Jeff Stelling on 22:38 - Jan 9 with 3447 views | macro |
I see Chorley, Blackpool, Arsenal etc all had celebrations where lots of players were face to face and together... | | | |
| Jeff Stelling on 22:39 - Jan 9 with 3444 views | D_Alien |
| Jeff Stelling on 22:33 - Jan 9 by nordenblue |
They've not changed how they've dealt with the risk.
With such close contact essential whilst playing football the massive increase in infections was always inevitable regardless of the rate away from the sport. |
But the two can't be disconnected: the rate amongst footballers and the rate amongst the general population
Without doing any further research but based on the broad outline of figures available in the news, i'd expect the rate among footballers to not have risen significantly more than the rate among the general population
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| Jeff Stelling on 22:39 - Jan 9 with 3446 views | 442Dale |
| Jeff Stelling on 22:33 - Jan 9 by nordenblue |
They've not changed how they've dealt with the risk.
With such close contact essential whilst playing football the massive increase in infections was always inevitable regardless of the rate away from the sport. |
They are testing more. And yes there’s a greater risk with contact, that’s why decisions are made at different times whether that risk can be managed. Which is why, as I’ve said a few times, they made need to pause the season now. Much as they may need to change the current lockdown and restrict other jobs more. | |
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| Jeff Stelling on 22:52 - Jan 9 with 3390 views | macro |
| Jeff Stelling on 22:39 - Jan 9 by 442Dale |
They are testing more. And yes there’s a greater risk with contact, that’s why decisions are made at different times whether that risk can be managed. Which is why, as I’ve said a few times, they made need to pause the season now. Much as they may need to change the current lockdown and restrict other jobs more. |
The season won't be paused. I think it might have been but the Euros mean that the top two divisions at least won't be. Professional sport outdoors is happening all throughout the world, I don't think football has been paused anywhere in Europe. The testing regime is aimed to keep the season going, whether morally it's right or wrong is up to individuals judgement but I can't see it stopping.
Lets face it did anyone really expect the country to be anywhere else going in 2021. It didn't take a lot of predicting that the virus would be out of control. | | | |
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