| Churchill and Wales 10:57 - Jan 17 with 27136 views | trampie |
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:18 - Jan 21 with 1689 views | Lohengrin |
Just came up did it, Kass? Just popped up out of the blue? You know who these people are, I take it?
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:33 - Jan 21 with 1674 views | Lohengrin |
| Churchill and Wales on 10:25 - Jan 21 by exiledclaseboy |
I was waiting for you to pop up after seeing the Crimes of Britain link.  I reckon you have some kind of built in radar.
Just out of interest, how much of that article on Churchill would you dispute? Never mind perspective, historical or otherwise, and opinion. Purely on the facts stated, how much of it is incorrect? [Post edited 21 Jan 2018 10:26]
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It's not really my job to defend Churchill, Clase, nor is it something I've ever been inclined to spend too much time doing over the years. I've had a quick read through and some of it seems genuine, some of it I've seen disputed and some of it is pretty standard Edwardian fayre that wouldn't have troubled the conscience of your great-grandfather over much.
What's genuinely troubling me is how a young chap from this neck of the woods has encountered these lunatics? [Post edited 21 Jan 2018 10:54]
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| Churchill and Wales on 11:08 - Jan 21 with 1650 views | perchrockjack |
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First a very good morning to you even though in west Wirral it's bible black gloomy .
Many from small insular valley villages have been fed is Churchill crap.
Similiarly with the apocryphal excesses of the miners dispute in he eighties ..
Sadly, unless kids are very independent minded. ,like I was, they take on what is said on dad s knee or from grandad reminiscing about better days.
I had both and decided to make my own judgements through life and it hasn't turned out too bad .
Personally, I believe if I d stayed in South Wales ,it's well possible I'd be a completely different animal to what I ve turned out to be . Places like South Wales, northern England and Scotland suffer ,in my opinion, from too much hiraeth ,too much sentimentalism , too little realism and it's why so many leave never to return .
When my father finally dies ,I can't see myself returning to Swansea that much . It would be breaking of umbilical cord that still chokes me sometimes |  |
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| Churchill and Wales on 12:03 - Jan 21 with 1624 views | exhmrc1 |
| Churchill and Wales on 11:08 - Jan 21 by perchrockjack |
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First a very good morning to you even though in west Wirral it's bible black gloomy .
Many from small insular valley villages have been fed is Churchill crap.
Similiarly with the apocryphal excesses of the miners dispute in he eighties ..
Sadly, unless kids are very independent minded. ,like I was, they take on what is said on dad s knee or from grandad reminiscing about better days.
I had both and decided to make my own judgements through life and it hasn't turned out too bad .
Personally, I believe if I d stayed in South Wales ,it's well possible I'd be a completely different animal to what I ve turned out to be . Places like South Wales, northern England and Scotland suffer ,in my opinion, from too much hiraeth ,too much sentimentalism , too little realism and it's why so many leave never to return .
When my father finally dies ,I can't see myself returning to Swansea that much . It would be breaking of umbilical cord that still chokes me sometimes |
Churchill was appointed Chancellor of the Exchequer in 1924 under Stanley Baldwin and oversaw Britain's disastrous return to the Gold Standard, which resulted in deflation, unemployment, and the miners' strike that led to the General Strike of 1926
Not fed valley crap. He was undoubtably a fine war leader. Elsewhere a disaster as a politician whose policies caused sever hardship to people.
He also proved an electoral liability losing more elections than he one.
I suggest you look at his whole career and not just the war period.
Finally as regards your last paragraph I cannot see it being anything but positive you wont be coming here as you are constantly negative about the place. | | | |
| Churchill and Wales on 13:02 - Jan 21 with 1601 views | Jack_Kass |
| Churchill and Wales on 10:33 - Jan 21 by Lohengrin |
It's not really my job to defend Churchill, Clase, nor is it something I've ever been inclined to spend too much time doing over the years. I've had a quick read through and some of it seems genuine, some of it I've seen disputed and some of it is pretty standard Edwardian fayre that wouldn't have troubled the conscience of your great-grandfather over much.
What's genuinely troubling me is how a young chap from this neck of the woods has encountered these lunatics? [Post edited 21 Jan 2018 10:54]
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I take it you're not familar with Twitter enough, in order to ask how to find lunatics?
This has come from the @Ireland official feed, where a curator has taken responsibility of 'moderation' this week (every week a new individual is selected). He has taken his moment to air his views on ol' Winnie.
I thought it was topical.
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| Churchill and Wales on 13:07 - Jan 21 with 1585 views | exiledclaseboy |
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I take it you're not familar with Twitter enough, in order to ask how to find lunatics?
This has come from the @Ireland official feed, where a curator has taken responsibility of 'moderation' this week (every week a new individual is selected). He has taken his moment to air his views on ol' Winnie.
I thought it was topical.
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Twitter is a bit modern for Lohengrin. He inhabits simpler times when the Daily Express was a respected broadsheet newspaper. You have to make allowances. |  |
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| Churchill and Wales on 13:44 - Jan 21 with 1567 views | Lohengrin |
| Churchill and Wales on 13:07 - Jan 21 by exiledclaseboy |
Twitter is a bit modern for Lohengrin. He inhabits simpler times when the Daily Express was a respected broadsheet newspaper. You have to make allowances. |
That's as may well be, Sir Andrew, but I'm also perfectly well aware of who and what the Irish Republican Socialist party is, the people behind the link Kass posted up.
ISRP/Red Action ... Warrington ... infanticide.
A stranger to Twitter and I'm more than happy to keep it that way. Ta very much. | |
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:06 - Jan 25 with 1417 views | perchrockjack |
Shame Chamberlain hadn't stayed PM
We would have had peace with Herr Hitler, had Edward V111 as President of the colony of Britannia ,then this Churchill fella wouldn't have upset so many .
Wood is a perfect example of narrow minded insular valleyism that blights people and is still perpetuated down generations .
It's 2018 out there yet tramp and his chum are utterly obsessed with the past . Not for nothing is Wales way behind | |
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:08 - Jan 25 with 1416 views | trampie |
| Churchill and Wales on 09:59 - Jan 25 by Lohengrin |
The kid doesn't appear to have the first idea who they are and I very much doubt you would either, Tramp, though you may pretend otherwise.
Don't like it? No, Tramp. I can't really say as I do. I'd place it in the same category as a link to child pornography. |
They have your side with guns hiding behind children, cutting heads off, torturing people, showing women and children in concentration camps etc etc
I warned you putting up an atrocity from the other side is a battle you cant win. | |
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:11 - Jan 25 with 1410 views | Lohengrin |
| Churchill and Wales on 10:08 - Jan 25 by trampie |
They have your side with guns hiding behind children, cutting heads off, torturing people, showing women and children in concentration camps etc etc
I warned you putting up an atrocity from the other side is a battle you cant win. |
My side? Are you feeling alright this morning? | |
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:18 - Jan 25 with 1398 views | trampie |
| Churchill and Wales on 10:11 - Jan 25 by Lohengrin |
My side? Are you feeling alright this morning? |
Yes the side of the Germanic Queen of assorted Germanic tribes with their state religion, some people support the Welsh and the ancient Britons, sometimes they are on the same side but not always. | |
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:22 - Jan 25 with 1393 views | perchrockjack |
Without Churchill we would have had a Germanic head of state alright and Wales would still be a backwater of the German Empire .. | |
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:34 - Jan 25 with 1383 views | trampie |
No change there then, wouldn't the Nazi's have kept the Royal family anyway ?, I think they did elsewhere in Europe.
There are pictures of the Royals doing Nazi salutes in the 1930s, somebody might even put the pics on this thread. | |
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:45 - Jan 25 with 1374 views | Lohengrin |
| Churchill and Wales on 10:34 - Jan 25 by trampie |
No change there then, wouldn't the Nazi's have kept the Royal family anyway ?, I think they did elsewhere in Europe.
There are pictures of the Royals doing Nazi salutes in the 1930s, somebody might even put the pics on this thread. |
Tramp, and I don't say this unkindly, but you are clean off your rocker.  | |
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:47 - Jan 25 with 1368 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Churchill and Wales on 10:22 - Jan 25 by perchrockjack |
Without Churchill we would have had a Germanic head of state alright and Wales would still be a backwater of the German Empire .. |
Well thank goodness we’ve only got one of those two.
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:50 - Jan 25 with 1363 views | Lohengrin |
| Churchill and Wales on 10:47 - Jan 25 by exiledclaseboy |
Well thank goodness we’ve only got one of those two.
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Cheers, Sir Andrew.
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:51 - Jan 25 with 1361 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Churchill and Wales on 10:47 - Jan 25 by exiledclaseboy |
Well thank goodness we’ve only got one of those two.
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:51 - Jan 25 with 1360 views | trampie |
Do you think the Nazi's would have kept the Royal Family Lohengrin if they had conquered Blighty and the Royals were unable to escape ?, some other Monarchs in Europe were kept in position after the Germans had overrun their country. [Post edited 25 Jan 2018 10:55]
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:53 - Jan 25 with 1356 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Churchill and Wales on 10:50 - Jan 25 by Lohengrin |
Cheers, Sir Andrew.
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If you keep calling me that you’re goung to ruin my chances. They don’t like presumptiousness. | |
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| Churchill and Wales on 10:54 - Jan 25 with 1350 views | Lohengrin |
| Churchill and Wales on 10:51 - Jan 25 by trampie |
Do you think the Nazi's would have kept the Royal Family Lohengrin if they had conquered Blighty and the Royals were unable to escape ?, some other Monarchs in Europe were kept in position after the Germans had overrun their country. [Post edited 25 Jan 2018 10:55]
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I don't think there was ever any serious intention of invading these islands at all, nor do I imagine the Royal family being prepared to play ball should such a calamity have come to pass. Not for one second. | |
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