| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 15:18 - Feb 13 with 1594 views | KrisP |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 14:36 - Feb 13 by skippyjack |
What about my post?
What's worse.. a leather ball to the head.
Or putting your mouth around an exhaust pipe?
Do these 'experts' think things through?.. |
What difference does it make? Are you suggesting that if we can't eliminate THE most dangerous thing in the world then we shouldn't bother eliminating anything else that is also found to be dangerous?
Personally I'm dubious about the heading issue (particularly past the junior level) but to say we should bother looking into it because pollution does more damage seems odd. |  | |  |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 15:19 - Feb 13 with 1589 views | KrisP |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 11:43 - Feb 13 by Kerouac |
Summer football all the way. Crazy that we haven't taken this direction with the kids yet...it's not like kids are playing Cricket in the summer these days is it?
Coach kids technique and pass & move, encourage young goalies to learn to run to the edge of the are and throw/roll it out.
I wouldn't go as far as banning heading though, as others have said they don't header the ball enough to make much difference...plus you stifle creativity (if a boy can see that if he nudges the ball on with his head he sets the striker away that is to be encouraged in my book...or if a boy can control the ball by nudging it with his head and bringing it down).
It is rare indeed to see a thumping header, nearly always they come from corners...you need a boy good enough to whip a cross in at height and a boy brave enough to keep his eye on the ball and meet it...rare you'll get these 2 characters in the same team at U8/9/10....and frankly it is wonderful to see and should be celebrated.
I reckon the damage that is done by heading is done in senior football. Watch a local game and count the amount of firmly met headers in the game...a lot with the ball travelling at pace, usually with someone else challenging (clashing heads/using arms). |
When I played junior cricket (admittedly 15 years ago) the games were always played on weeknights anyway as the games were short enough to fit in before it went dark. Not sure what it's like now. | | | |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 15:27 - Feb 13 with 1566 views | skippyjack |
It's impossible to be accurate with the ball theory.. when companies are pumping out radioactive heatwaves into the atmospheres at the speed of light everyday.
You don't have to be Albert Einstein to "debunk" the expert analysis of a leather ball.
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| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 15:36 - Feb 13 with 1560 views | Mongos_Candygram |
Heading a ball jabber from the age of 3 paaaa did me no cluck harm |  |
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| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 17:14 - Feb 13 with 1479 views | TheFranchise |
I've looked at a summer football option for about 10 years. The answer from the council is normally "the pitches are used for cricket.
March to September would be great if you could get enough kids to play. |  | | |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 17:26 - Feb 13 with 1455 views | JaySun |
As an coach of U8 and U10 kids, I wouldn't even address heading the ball if were allowed here in the States. I teach them no to worry about heading the ball because we want to keep it on the ground. Be technical... | | | |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 17:28 - Feb 13 with 1452 views | Jack_Kass |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 17:14 - Feb 13 by TheFranchise |
I've looked at a summer football option for about 10 years. The answer from the council is normally "the pitches are used for cricket.
March to September would be great if you could get enough kids to play. |
It just doesn't make sense for no formal activity to be taking place in the best months of the year for weather.
In the US they split outdoor activity into 3 separate seasons from Mar-Nov; Spring, Summer and Fall. Indoors activity (futsal) is organised in January/February: The only month where nothing happens is December.
How the hell youngsters there are playing the game more than those in the U.K. always baffles me, with more alternative sports to compete with as well. | |
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| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 17:36 - Feb 13 with 1438 views | Highjack |
We should stop players from kicking the ball with their feet too to prevent bunions in later life. |  |
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| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 22:30 - Feb 13 with 1324 views | MillJack |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 17:14 - Feb 13 by TheFranchise |
I've looked at a summer football option for about 10 years. The answer from the council is normally "the pitches are used for cricket.
March to September would be great if you could get enough kids to play. |
The problem with that argument is that there isn't even a Swansea Cricket League anymore.
I suspect that, deep down, the problem is that they just can't be arsed with the hassle and, if that's the case, it's disgraceful.
There really isn't any need, with the amount of space available at the likes of Mynydd Newydd, Ashleigh Road, etc. for football pitches to not be available all year round. |  | | |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 07:47 - Feb 15 with 1182 views | TheFranchise |
BBC Breakfast talking about older professional footballers that are starting to die from CTE. I'd expect many, many more.
I hate all this "need some risk" or the "might as well stop kicking it too" rubbish. We're talking about serious conditions that kill people and if you have a chance to change something for kids to reduce the risk to their long term health then why wouldn't you?
As they get older, fine. Wait until the individual can make their own informed decision. | | | |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 11:48 - Feb 15 with 1125 views | Clinton |
Where it will be well protected from errant waterlogged leather footballs. |  |
| If you can fill the unforgiving minute.
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! |
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| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 10:42 - Mar 4 with 898 views | TheFranchise |
good good.
Next is an aptitude test for volunteers to protect the kids from those that have had a few too many blows to the head :) | | | |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 11:00 - Mar 4 with 888 views | dameedna |
Ruling out heading sort of cancels the benefit of corners. No punching for keeper either. Maybe slide tackles. More 5 a side rules roll in along the ground when out of play. Probably be better for skills. |  | | |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 11:25 - Mar 4 with 874 views | TheFranchise |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 11:00 - Mar 4 by dameedna |
Ruling out heading sort of cancels the benefit of corners. No punching for keeper either. Maybe slide tackles. More 5 a side rules roll in along the ground when out of play. Probably be better for skills. |
There are far more pros than cons for this at younger age groups. Especially in mini football.
Focus on playing football on the ground, increase technical skill with the ball and positioning without it. Less focus on bravery and reduces the risk of head clashes, elbows and the physicality that corners can have.
I don't see reducing the risk to young brains while increasing the enjoyment of the game for the children involved as ruining the game or being too soft or powder puff. These aren't mini adults playing, it's children.
Not sure how many of the newer members know who I am or my background. I coached children in football and badminton for over 10 years, help run the local football for 2000 swansea children and worked in foundation level education. We are only now discovering the impact that regular small knocks to the head have on people 20 years down the line.
It's not only match situations that need looking at. I've seen children stand in pairs for years heading the ball back to each other. Thats a small collision every couple of seconds a couple of times a week for as long as they play the game. Boxers at that age wear head protection, footballers don't.
Heading the ball can come in at a later age, when they play 11 a side football (soon to be 9 a side) when they are old enough to make an informed choice whether or not to participate.
As far as I'm concerned anyone that feels that it negatively impacts the sport for people of that age needs to step into 2017. My opinion of course. Like I said, I've watched countless training sessions from dad's that think they know enough to coach, sadly the entry level coaching badges don't do enough to give the people with a duty of care to the children a solid understanding of the physiology of the people they look after. Some managers would easily fail a level 2 physiology paper just by spelling their names incorrectly. | | | |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 01:29 - Mar 5 with 843 views | skippyjack |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 11:25 - Mar 4 by TheFranchise |
There are far more pros than cons for this at younger age groups. Especially in mini football.
Focus on playing football on the ground, increase technical skill with the ball and positioning without it. Less focus on bravery and reduces the risk of head clashes, elbows and the physicality that corners can have.
I don't see reducing the risk to young brains while increasing the enjoyment of the game for the children involved as ruining the game or being too soft or powder puff. These aren't mini adults playing, it's children.
Not sure how many of the newer members know who I am or my background. I coached children in football and badminton for over 10 years, help run the local football for 2000 swansea children and worked in foundation level education. We are only now discovering the impact that regular small knocks to the head have on people 20 years down the line.
It's not only match situations that need looking at. I've seen children stand in pairs for years heading the ball back to each other. Thats a small collision every couple of seconds a couple of times a week for as long as they play the game. Boxers at that age wear head protection, footballers don't.
Heading the ball can come in at a later age, when they play 11 a side football (soon to be 9 a side) when they are old enough to make an informed choice whether or not to participate.
As far as I'm concerned anyone that feels that it negatively impacts the sport for people of that age needs to step into 2017. My opinion of course. Like I said, I've watched countless training sessions from dad's that think they know enough to coach, sadly the entry level coaching badges don't do enough to give the people with a duty of care to the children a solid understanding of the physiology of the people they look after. Some managers would easily fail a level 2 physiology paper just by spelling their names incorrectly. |
I'm not sure where you're heading with this..
Carbon Monoxide consumption has proven it suffocates the brain.. especially with suicide autopsy's.
The football has a minimal effect.. compared to carbon monoxide on the human mind.. Carbon Monoxide effectively eats away at your brain tissue.. the ball doesn't even enter the inside of the brain..
It's a weak.. and p*ss poor argument.. but I'm not surprised 'expert's' have come to this crazy conclusion..
The world is a sham anyway.. I can't believe half the nonsense that's being spouted out in today's quite astonishingly crazy world. | |
| The awkward moment when a Welsh Club become the Champions of England.. shh
The Swansea Way.. To upset the odds. | | Poll: | Best Swans Player |
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| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 01:54 - Mar 5 with 836 views | Pokerface |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 11:25 - Mar 4 by TheFranchise |
There are far more pros than cons for this at younger age groups. Especially in mini football.
Focus on playing football on the ground, increase technical skill with the ball and positioning without it. Less focus on bravery and reduces the risk of head clashes, elbows and the physicality that corners can have.
I don't see reducing the risk to young brains while increasing the enjoyment of the game for the children involved as ruining the game or being too soft or powder puff. These aren't mini adults playing, it's children.
Not sure how many of the newer members know who I am or my background. I coached children in football and badminton for over 10 years, help run the local football for 2000 swansea children and worked in foundation level education. We are only now discovering the impact that regular small knocks to the head have on people 20 years down the line.
It's not only match situations that need looking at. I've seen children stand in pairs for years heading the ball back to each other. Thats a small collision every couple of seconds a couple of times a week for as long as they play the game. Boxers at that age wear head protection, footballers don't.
Heading the ball can come in at a later age, when they play 11 a side football (soon to be 9 a side) when they are old enough to make an informed choice whether or not to participate.
As far as I'm concerned anyone that feels that it negatively impacts the sport for people of that age needs to step into 2017. My opinion of course. Like I said, I've watched countless training sessions from dad's that think they know enough to coach, sadly the entry level coaching badges don't do enough to give the people with a duty of care to the children a solid understanding of the physiology of the people they look after. Some managers would easily fail a level 2 physiology paper just by spelling their names incorrectly. |
"when they play 11 a side football (soon to be 9 a side) when they are old enough to make an informed choice whether or not to participate".
I truly hope you are no longer involved with kids football. Based on this and many of your comments over the years. Take a break. Step back. Serious advice. | |
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| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 10:14 - Mar 5 with 815 views | Jack_Kass |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 01:54 - Mar 5 by Pokerface |
"when they play 11 a side football (soon to be 9 a side) when they are old enough to make an informed choice whether or not to participate".
I truly hope you are no longer involved with kids football. Based on this and many of your comments over the years. Take a break. Step back. Serious advice. |
What a strange attack, on kids being allowed to make their own decisions?
Too many shandies me thinks | |
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| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 10:23 - Mar 5 with 807 views | TheFranchise |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 10:14 - Mar 5 by Jack_Kass |
What a strange attack, on kids being allowed to make their own decisions?
Too many shandies me thinks |
It's fine, I don't think many will agree with me. Sadly football needs quite a few changes in this country in order to maintain and improve on participation levels.
Facilities and aggressive behaviour and language from coaches and parent groups should be top of the list. | | | |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 10:39 - Mar 5 with 800 views | Jack_Kass |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 10:23 - Mar 5 by TheFranchise |
It's fine, I don't think many will agree with me. Sadly football needs quite a few changes in this country in order to maintain and improve on participation levels.
Facilities and aggressive behaviour and language from coaches and parent groups should be top of the list. |
I thought the UK had a problem with parents and coaches attitude, until I came over to the States, just some things I've witnessed are
One coach celebrating wildly on the field after the final whistle yelling 'SHUT OUT' at the top of his voice, because his team won 1-0. Starting a huge melee and altercation with thr opposite coaches. This was at U8.
One parent dragging his kid off the field of play mid game because he wasn't 'doing good enough', this was U9.
One parent starting a 'you suck' chant at the other team, i think this was around u12.
we do have our fair share of idiots in the U.K, and there's still a lot of idiots to educate, but generally I think we're moving towards the right end of the spectrum, in comparison to other countries | |
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| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 10:50 - Mar 5 with 797 views | TheFranchise |
| Ban under 10s from heading the ball. on 10:39 - Mar 5 by Jack_Kass |
I thought the UK had a problem with parents and coaches attitude, until I came over to the States, just some things I've witnessed are
One coach celebrating wildly on the field after the final whistle yelling 'SHUT OUT' at the top of his voice, because his team won 1-0. Starting a huge melee and altercation with thr opposite coaches. This was at U8.
One parent dragging his kid off the field of play mid game because he wasn't 'doing good enough', this was U9.
One parent starting a 'you suck' chant at the other team, i think this was around u12.
we do have our fair share of idiots in the U.K, and there's still a lot of idiots to educate, but generally I think we're moving towards the right end of the spectrum, in comparison to other countries |
When I go to observe "troubled" teams, I don't wear my ID until I introduce myself. Some of the things I've witnessed in over 10 years are crazy.
Parents encouraging violent play, managers scrapping, abusing the referee and then trying it with me. There is no need for anyone to stand on the touchline. Stand 10 foot back, give the game a chance to breathe. Especially on the smaller pitches with younger kids.
I walked a parent from the bottom pitches of Mynydd Newydd right up to the pavilion once because he couldn't see that swearing at a 13 year old referee and walking on the pitch to confront them wasn't acceptable.
There are plenty of really good people involved but some don't realise that they are children and not just small adults. [Post edited 5 Mar 2017 10:56]
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