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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? 19:09 - Aug 31 with 25588 viewsGowerjack

I'm Swansea born and bred,a Penlan boy.

One of our esteemed posters who has moved away almost always slags his hometown.

For my part I think the City has been let down for decades both by the local council and the London and WAG.

I mean look at the mess made of the City centre road network for the failed bendy bus project ( not to mention the unfortunate people who lost their lives because of it). Or what about the "Boulevard Project" which after months of traffic disruption ended up being a wider pavement!

Or to go back a little longer the disaster that is Castle Square or the failed Cafe Quarter?

Or knocking down David Evans and replacing it with the current ugly and underused building?

Poor planning decisions and a lack of investment centrally have really hurt us.

I defy anyone to walk from Dyfatty down High Steet,Orchard Street,the Kingsway & St Helens Rd to the Guildhall and tell me that our City has not been allowed to become a complete s hithole.

It's a real shame that this combination of poor decision making and focusing public money elsewhere has led to this as Swansea has a location and natural environment second to none.

I'm old enough to remember Swansea as a bustling friendly and clean City with a sense of purpose.

Not anymore.

Your views?



[Post edited 31 Aug 2016 19:11]

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 20:45 - Sep 7 with 1149 viewsperchrockjack

Never presume anything g spot.


People might have missed the fookn obvious with posts which is...the suburbs are ok ,some truly lovely. It's the fookn centre that s been trashed.


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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 20:50 - Sep 7 with 1139 viewsjack247

Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 20:45 - Sep 7 by perchrockjack

Never presume anything g spot.


People might have missed the fookn obvious with posts which is...the suburbs are ok ,some truly lovely. It's the fookn centre that s been trashed.


Next weeks topic is

...how I once worked in neath and survived a town of knobheads


You would have been better off saying that 12 pages or even many months ago.

It's not fookn obvious because it's not what you have been saying.

I'm not going to argue that the city centre isn't in a state, it is.
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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 20:53 - Sep 7 with 1135 viewsexhmrc1

Having worked in the city centre for nearly 40 years I think I am probably in a better position to comment than others. Anyway here I go.
There has been a huge improvement in the city recently after many years of decline. 5 years ago I would have agreed with Gower Jack and Perch but today like many others they are failing to recognise the changes which certainly are for the better.
If we start with High Street. The Grand has been revitalised and the new restaurant going to where the Old Post Office was is definitely an improvement as is the opening of the Polish shop opposite. Further down we have the Urban Village which is certainly a good addition. There is a new building going where Radiocraft and The Bush were. Again that will be an improvement. High Street has a long way to but at least it is going in the right direction. The proposed student flats will also be an improvement when built.
Castle Street has again recently been improved with a new cinema, Kaspas and a new Brewery Shop having been opened in recent months.
A new development next to the Castle is an improvement as is a 3/4 million redevelopment of Walkabout along with the Griffin and Yates Bars also being redeveloped. Hogarths has opened in a previously unused building.

A walk along Oxford Street down Union Street through The Quadrant and back up Whitewalls shows only 5 empty shops. Many units have been let in the last couple of years national companies who have gone bust in the last few months and this has nothing to do with Swansea.

On the Kingsway Gower College have bought the old TSB block and a new restaurant has opened at the top of Picton Arcade. The Old Top Rank building will be demolished and replaced.

The City Centre still has someway to go but certainly is improving. Whilst there is clearly a need to sort out the older buildings Palace Elysium and Albert Hall along with letting of the closed BHS store the city is certainly moving forward. There are certainly less beggars than there were a few years ago.

Today we have numerous decent hotels in and near the City Centre and that certainlty hasn't been the case previously. You have the Marriott, Morgans, Dragon, Dolphin, Grand and Village along with a couple of Premier Inns and a Travelodge. We have a market voted the best Indoor Market in the UK and a highly acclaimed Leisure Centre together with a lovely Marina.

One of the oddities is that visitors and students coming into our city see it in a far more positive light than our residents do.

Finally yes the city has work to do and has not been helped by the Council in particular over the years but we have much to be grateful for.
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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:01 - Sep 7 with 1121 viewsperchrockjack

That makes pleasant reading.

Students won't be aware of how vibrant and full of balls Swansea was.


247

I don't post for friendship or to impress some callow teen readers of drivel.

I post my opinions, some honest, some naughty some provocative

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:10 - Sep 7 with 1099 viewsjack247

Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:01 - Sep 7 by perchrockjack

That makes pleasant reading.

Students won't be aware of how vibrant and full of balls Swansea was.


247

I don't post for friendship or to impress some callow teen readers of drivel.

I post my opinions, some honest, some naughty some provocative


I appreciate that. No one could accuse you of posting things to curry favour and you do speak your mind. The problem is, you change your mind as you see what you originally posted picked apart, come up with something that doesn't really resemble your original point and say it's obvious, implying it was what you meant all along.

The post above from ehmx is probably the best in the entire thread. It's an opinion, but it's heavily backed up with powerful examples. Very hard to disagree with something that well presented.
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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:17 - Sep 7 with 1078 viewsperchrockjack

Changing mind.

Good heavens


The day we all post positive pleasant to read posts is the day this site dies.


Picture a site that s full of July garlands and not a contentious sentence to be seen


People have different perspectives .


Swansea has been devastated . I don't give a feck about neath Bridgend port talbot or other villages. We were a powerhouse and we ve been shat on.

It might well be getting better but it's way behind what it should be.

Swansea needs to find its identity and stick it's head above the cretinous Cardiff centralisation .

Sadly, honesty isn't comfortable for some . They know the truth but hide behind a facade of feckery.

Get the city centre right and the rest will follow


By the way, I don't eat babies

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:27 - Sep 7 with 1062 viewsjack247

Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:17 - Sep 7 by perchrockjack

Changing mind.

Good heavens


The day we all post positive pleasant to read posts is the day this site dies.


Picture a site that s full of July garlands and not a contentious sentence to be seen


People have different perspectives .


Swansea has been devastated . I don't give a feck about neath Bridgend port talbot or other villages. We were a powerhouse and we ve been shat on.

It might well be getting better but it's way behind what it should be.

Swansea needs to find its identity and stick it's head above the cretinous Cardiff centralisation .

Sadly, honesty isn't comfortable for some . They know the truth but hide behind a facade of feckery.

Get the city centre right and the rest will follow


By the way, I don't eat babies


You haven't understood what I said.

You say what's on your mind, then 4 pages later argue a completely different point and suggest it was what you were saying all along.

Disagreeing with others is one thing, and yes, the site would be boring without it. Disagreeing with yourself is something different.

I never suggested you eat babies. I don't jump on all your posts. I do take umbrage with your ill informed, negative view of the city though.
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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:38 - Sep 7 with 1046 viewsperchrockjack

Yes I have,with respect.
You do not know me, nor know the motives why I post what I do.

Trust me ,you d have to be up very early in the morning to sus me out

I'm not sure what I'm going to come up with and that keeps me sane or at least some warped fun watching the pitiful ripostes on here.

Thank god for Wayne wArwick ,humpty and frankly brynmill who although hardly a chum seems pretty objective.

In short, as ive said before I both love and hate Swansea in equal measures but it's MY Swansea and outsiders can fook right off as its nowt to do with them at all. If there were no swans they would be doing what village people do in Wales on a wet Saturday.


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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:40 - Sep 7 with 1038 viewsDr_Winston

It's not your Swansea though.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:41 - Sep 7 with 1037 viewsjack247

Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:38 - Sep 7 by perchrockjack

Yes I have,with respect.
You do not know me, nor know the motives why I post what I do.

Trust me ,you d have to be up very early in the morning to sus me out

I'm not sure what I'm going to come up with and that keeps me sane or at least some warped fun watching the pitiful ripostes on here.

Thank god for Wayne wArwick ,humpty and frankly brynmill who although hardly a chum seems pretty objective.

In short, as ive said before I both love and hate Swansea in equal measures but it's MY Swansea and outsiders can fook right off as its nowt to do with them at all. If there were no swans they would be doing what village people do in Wales on a wet Saturday.


Floreat Swansea


Well if you have understood what I've said, you haven't denied it.
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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:41 - Sep 7 with 1037 viewsperchrockjack

Dear god, the admirable crichton

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:49 - Sep 7 with 1018 viewsBigPhilG

Dear me
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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:53 - Sep 7 with 1010 viewsperchrockjack

It's hard to believe in creationism when faced with this relentless dross.

Line in sand


Do it ,do it now


Can you Philip


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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:57 - Sep 7 with 998 viewsStarsky

Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:27 - Sep 7 by jack247

You haven't understood what I said.

You say what's on your mind, then 4 pages later argue a completely different point and suggest it was what you were saying all along.

Disagreeing with others is one thing, and yes, the site would be boring without it. Disagreeing with yourself is something different.

I never suggested you eat babies. I don't jump on all your posts. I do take umbrage with your ill informed, negative view of the city though.


You can't argue about Swansea with him.
Every day he feels compelled to tell us that if we don't agree with him then we are in denial.

He talks of it being his Swansea, despite leaving over 30 years ago... But then exclaims that anyone from our neighbouring areas shouldn't have an opinion.

Frankly he's obsessed about lecturing on this subject several times a day now.

Very very tedious.

It's just the internet, init.

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:58 - Sep 7 with 992 viewsjack247

Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:53 - Sep 7 by perchrockjack

It's hard to believe in creationism when faced with this relentless dross.

Line in sand


Do it ,do it now


Can you Philip


Can you


I know you're talking to Phil g, but line in the sand sounds reasonable. Try being objective rather than exclusively negative when talking about the city and the club and I think you will get far less grief on here
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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:59 - Sep 7 with 985 viewsmorningstar

Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 20:08 - Sep 7 by BigPhilG

Pardon
I presume this is a joke


I'm undecided, but in all honesty (and i did last night advise you on this and you stated you would take my advice) if you genuinely feel that someone is suffering from sort of mental illness, as you clearly do. Then the best way for you to show empathy towards that person would be to ignore them unless you are able to offer them professional help. Are you able to do this?

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:06 - Sep 7 with 964 viewsperchrockjack

If people cannot read and then ask themselves questions then I can't help them

Nobody is answerable to anyone on here.

Praise Swansea and it makes you a great poster. It really does. It's wrong .

People on here clearly see a username and then their fingers take over.

Get a fookn grip. You too 247 .not sure you realise what a massive misplaced ego you have.

In short, just who the feck do you think you are.

Look at the topic"...see how it gravitates into insults and who s responsible for it.

Line in sand...move on? Course not, because people need it

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:09 - Sep 7 with 951 viewsStarsky

What???l

247 is one of the best posters on here and you accuse him of having an ego?

Dear lord.

Just see what you just posted... Extremely insulting

It's just the internet, init.

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:14 - Sep 7 with 931 viewsjack247

Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:06 - Sep 7 by perchrockjack

If people cannot read and then ask themselves questions then I can't help them

Nobody is answerable to anyone on here.

Praise Swansea and it makes you a great poster. It really does. It's wrong .

People on here clearly see a username and then their fingers take over.

Get a fookn grip. You too 247 .not sure you realise what a massive misplaced ego you have.

In short, just who the feck do you think you are.

Look at the topic"...see how it gravitates into insults and who s responsible for it.

Line in sand...move on? Course not, because people need it


I guess not then.

Carry on. Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously when you have shown yourself to be incapable of objective thinking and have a strange habit of disagreeing with yourself
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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:15 - Sep 7 with 926 viewsDarran

Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:09 - Sep 7 by Starsky

What???l

247 is one of the best posters on here and you accuse him of having an ego?

Dear lord.

Just see what you just posted... Extremely insulting


Time for the Mods to get rid of him if you ask me.
This is getting quite pitiful now and he clearly need a break.

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:20 - Sep 7 with 914 viewsBigPhilG

Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 21:59 - Sep 7 by morningstar

I'm undecided, but in all honesty (and i did last night advise you on this and you stated you would take my advice) if you genuinely feel that someone is suffering from sort of mental illness, as you clearly do. Then the best way for you to show empathy towards that person would be to ignore them unless you are able to offer them professional help. Are you able to do this?


If you look at this thread and the one on the non football board you will see I've been true to my word. At the same time have a look at Perch's recent posts, I'd be interested in your thoughts and I'm sure you'll see some where I could easily have jumped in with my size nines
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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:44 - Sep 7 with 863 viewsMrSwerve

What's just as annoying is people jumping on anything Perch says in every single thread. Leave him be...block him if he's that annoying to you.

He comes out with some corkers sometimes but strangely I manage to keep calm.

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:53 - Sep 7 with 854 viewsperchrockjack

IT is winston more than yours .

Hurts does it not


It's why I spend my time attempting to straighten you out.

Why not have a go at those living in Canada like groo or swansnz or even Warwick in leafy London .


Jesus, how about Bill in Carlisle more a jack than you d ever be, Quaker jack in Darlo, borojack...on and on


You being a mod is incredible to fathom

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:53 - Sep 7 with 854 viewsmorningstar

Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:20 - Sep 7 by BigPhilG

If you look at this thread and the one on the non football board you will see I've been true to my word. At the same time have a look at Perch's recent posts, I'd be interested in your thoughts and I'm sure you'll see some where I could easily have jumped in with my size nines


That's all i see Phil, is people rounding on Perchie for no other reason than the fact he has fallen out with Darran, his views on Swansea as a city, and his views on the club , . No biggies really, everyone is entitled to their views and in some cases he's correct.
Where he let's himself down is that he cannot take that criticism back when it comes to his own city, (which people will naturally do) as it affects his wife and family! Of course, if that criticism affects his loved ones, then you'd think it best to not persist with his own agenda in order to avoid that, but hey, you have to wonder why Richie tells his wife what's being posted on here about Liverpool, does he tell his wife what he posts about Swansea? and finally why does Darran jump on every post he makes like some sort deranged dingo! Bottom line is, it's personal between them and the rest of us should butt out and leave them get on with it

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Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:59 - Sep 7 with 832 viewsDarran

Swansea - what does everyone think of our City? on 22:53 - Sep 7 by morningstar

That's all i see Phil, is people rounding on Perchie for no other reason than the fact he has fallen out with Darran, his views on Swansea as a city, and his views on the club , . No biggies really, everyone is entitled to their views and in some cases he's correct.
Where he let's himself down is that he cannot take that criticism back when it comes to his own city, (which people will naturally do) as it affects his wife and family! Of course, if that criticism affects his loved ones, then you'd think it best to not persist with his own agenda in order to avoid that, but hey, you have to wonder why Richie tells his wife what's being posted on here about Liverpool, does he tell his wife what he posts about Swansea? and finally why does Darran jump on every post he makes like some sort deranged dingo! Bottom line is, it's personal between them and the rest of us should butt out and leave them get on with it


Yeah that'll be it Gar,Lisa rounding on him because she was called a bitch by him.

Yes of course I see it now it's all everybody else's fault.

I'm also not jumping on every post he makes either.

He's clearly got something on you.

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