| Michu .Done deal. (n/t) on 21:13 - Jul 17 with 1491 views | Swansea93 |
| Michu .Done deal. (n/t) on 21:12 - Jul 17 by Swansea93 |
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Do you? Whys that |  |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:14 - Jul 17 with 1489 views | Shaky |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:06 - Jul 17 by JackSomething |
I bet you're wrong. |
I bet you're wrong -- again.
If he was on £40k a week that equates to a shade over £2m annually. On that basis Swansea are continuing to pay roughly half of his wages, given Napoli's £1m loan fee.
This is by any standards a really shit deal for the club.
If Michu turns out to be a bust Napoli are paying only half of his wages for a year, whereas if he is still serviceable they get a £15-20 million player for a guaranteed £8 million investment. Lovely jubbly. |  |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:21 - Jul 17 with 1461 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:14 - Jul 17 by Shaky |
I bet you're wrong -- again.
If he was on £40k a week that equates to a shade over £2m annually. On that basis Swansea are continuing to pay roughly half of his wages, given Napoli's £1m loan fee.
This is by any standards a really shit deal for the club.
If Michu turns out to be a bust Napoli are paying only half of his wages for a year, whereas if he is still serviceable they get a £15-20 million player for a guaranteed £8 million investment. Lovely jubbly. |
the fee's in addition to the weekly wages as I'm sure you must know. No, really, it is!
Do you really think we were locked in negotiations for well over a month with Napoli to just end up saying, 'oh right - a million quid, oh go on then'. Really .... | | | |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:22 - Jul 17 with 1459 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:14 - Jul 17 by Shaky |
I bet you're wrong -- again.
If he was on £40k a week that equates to a shade over £2m annually. On that basis Swansea are continuing to pay roughly half of his wages, given Napoli's £1m loan fee.
This is by any standards a really shit deal for the club.
If Michu turns out to be a bust Napoli are paying only half of his wages for a year, whereas if he is still serviceable they get a £15-20 million player for a guaranteed £8 million investment. Lovely jubbly. |
How the f*ck do you work that out? |  | | |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:23 - Jul 17 with 1458 views | JackSomething |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:14 - Jul 17 by Shaky |
I bet you're wrong -- again.
If he was on £40k a week that equates to a shade over £2m annually. On that basis Swansea are continuing to pay roughly half of his wages, given Napoli's £1m loan fee.
This is by any standards a really shit deal for the club.
If Michu turns out to be a bust Napoli are paying only half of his wages for a year, whereas if he is still serviceable they get a £15-20 million player for a guaranteed £8 million investment. Lovely jubbly. |
Please let me know where I've been wrong before. You are an expert in that field after all.
Do you know he was on £40k? Even if he is, why wouldn't they be paying a £1m loan fee and his wages?
If we were effectively paying out £1m for Napoli to loan Michu for a year, I'd have thought the club would have preferred to sell him to a domestic rival. |  |
| You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help. |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:27 - Jul 17 with 1444 views | Uxbridge |
| Michu .Done deal. on 18:41 - Jul 17 by AngelRangelQS |
I don't think we do but I'd have thought the club would have said something, that's all |
I don't disagree, and I'd certainly agree that communication is never particularly great. But as it's so obvious in this case I'm not sure it matters all that much is all. |  |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:27 - Jul 17 with 1443 views | Highjack |
We're loaning him out for half the amount we bought him for in the first place, but now his ankles are shagged and he can't be ar5ed to play. Yes what a sh1t deal. |  |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:36 - Jul 17 with 1410 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:27 - Jul 17 by Highjack |
We're loaning him out for half the amount we bought him for in the first place, but now his ankles are shagged and he can't be ar5ed to play. Yes what a sh1t deal. |
this is the point in my mind.
I'm sure we would all have (a) loved him to be raring to go for us or (b) have sold him for £10m plus.
But actually, the deal is really not that bad. We are shifting his wages (which must be in the top 2 or 3 at the club) plus getting a loan fee. If that nets the best part of £3m over the season, that frees up wages for someone else (£60k per week ish) in place of a player that doesn't want to play here. And, we have no risk of him doing well for a rival. | | | |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:36 - Jul 17 with 1407 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
They only paid 50% of the wages for Liverpool's keeper. |  |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:38 - Jul 17 with 1397 views | Swansea93 |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:36 - Jul 17 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
They only paid 50% of the wages for Liverpool's keeper. |
And they didnt even pay the little fee to sign him permanent after the good season he was meant to of had. | |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:41 - Jul 17 with 1390 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:36 - Jul 17 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
They only paid 50% of the wages for Liverpool's keeper. |
so what? we've only paid part wages before as well with loans, but there are also occasions when we've paid the wages plus a loan fee and both has happened the other way round to us as well. | | | |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:41 - Jul 17 with 1383 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:41 - Jul 17 by londonlisa2001 |
so what? we've only paid part wages before as well with loans, but there are also occasions when we've paid the wages plus a loan fee and both has happened the other way round to us as well. |
How do you know what we have paid in regards to % of wages and loan fee? | |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:44 - Jul 17 with 1370 views | Darran |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:41 - Jul 17 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
How do you know what we have paid in regards to % of wages and loan fee? |
She didn't mention any % FFS but it's obvious we have somewhere along the journey. |  |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:46 - Jul 17 with 1363 views | JackSomething |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:41 - Jul 17 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
How do you know what we have paid in regards to % of wages and loan fee? |
Shaky seems to think he knows.
I haven't seen many claim this is a good deal for us financially, but the usual suspects have been quick to deride the club. | |
| You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help. |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:46 - Jul 17 with 1360 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:44 - Jul 17 by Darran |
She didn't mention any % FFS but it's obvious we have somewhere along the journey. |
I was just wondering if Lisa is in the know. I'm not sure who to believe on here anymore regarding who is and who isn't. | |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:49 - Jul 17 with 1343 views | Shaky |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:46 - Jul 17 by JackSomething |
Shaky seems to think he knows.
I haven't seen many claim this is a good deal for us financially, but the usual suspects have been quick to deride the club. |
Napoli risk £1 million for a possible £10 million return.
The proverbial ten bagger is a fabulous deal in any industry, but if you want to blow smoke up the club's arse for a job well done knock yourself out. [Post edited 17 Jul 2014 21:49]
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:51 - Jul 17 with 1332 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:44 - Jul 17 by Darran |
She didn't mention any % FFS but it's obvious we have somewhere along the journey. |
honestly - people are becoming ridiculous!
As Darran says, of course I don't know percentages, but have a little think about the JDG situation.
Does anyone think that his owning team have just said - 'oh yeah, just have him for 2 seasons - no it's fine - just pay his wages - we'll take all the hit on the depreciation of his value as his contract runs down' when they could have sold him for £5/6m ?? Or do you think we've paid his wages and a fee?
For God's sake. Similarly when we have loaned players from 'big clubs' in the past - they have wanted us to add value for them by giving experience (eg. Caulker in our first year up) - in that situation, the benefit is the other way round, so they subsidise the deal a bit. This is the way it works - surely it's blooming obvious? | | | |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:53 - Jul 17 with 1318 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:51 - Jul 17 by londonlisa2001 |
honestly - people are becoming ridiculous!
As Darran says, of course I don't know percentages, but have a little think about the JDG situation.
Does anyone think that his owning team have just said - 'oh yeah, just have him for 2 seasons - no it's fine - just pay his wages - we'll take all the hit on the depreciation of his value as his contract runs down' when they could have sold him for £5/6m ?? Or do you think we've paid his wages and a fee?
For God's sake. Similarly when we have loaned players from 'big clubs' in the past - they have wanted us to add value for them by giving experience (eg. Caulker in our first year up) - in that situation, the benefit is the other way round, so they subsidise the deal a bit. This is the way it works - surely it's blooming obvious? |
I'll ask Huw at the fans forum. | |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:54 - Jul 17 with 1311 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:46 - Jul 17 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I was just wondering if Lisa is in the know. I'm not sure who to believe on here anymore regarding who is and who isn't. |
no - see my reply to Darran's point (which actually was a reply to you - I was agreeing with Darran). It's just common sense though isn't it? | | | |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:55 - Jul 17 with 1307 views | Shaky |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:51 - Jul 17 by londonlisa2001 |
honestly - people are becoming ridiculous!
As Darran says, of course I don't know percentages, but have a little think about the JDG situation.
Does anyone think that his owning team have just said - 'oh yeah, just have him for 2 seasons - no it's fine - just pay his wages - we'll take all the hit on the depreciation of his value as his contract runs down' when they could have sold him for £5/6m ?? Or do you think we've paid his wages and a fee?
For God's sake. Similarly when we have loaned players from 'big clubs' in the past - they have wanted us to add value for them by giving experience (eg. Caulker in our first year up) - in that situation, the benefit is the other way round, so they subsidise the deal a bit. This is the way it works - surely it's blooming obvious? |
Obvious to a woman's intuition. | |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 21:58 - Jul 17 with 1316 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:55 - Jul 17 by Shaky |
Obvious to a woman's intuition. |
Obvious to people who are not determined to criticise every 2 seconds. | | | |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:59 - Jul 17 with 1304 views | londonlisa2001 |
bloody hell Dwight - I hope Huw's got the week blocked out in his diary.... | | | |
| Michu .Done deal. on 22:01 - Jul 17 with 1296 views | JackSomething |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:49 - Jul 17 by Shaky |
Napoli risk £1 million for a possible £10 million return.
The proverbial ten bagger is a fabulous deal in any industry, but if you want to blow smoke up the club's arse for a job well done knock yourself out. [Post edited 17 Jul 2014 21:49]
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So where did you discover the fact they aren't paying his wages?
This is a poor attempt by your usual standards. | |
| You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help. |
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| Michu .Done deal. on 22:04 - Jul 17 with 1280 views | Spratty |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:58 - Jul 17 by londonlisa2001 |
Obvious to people who are not determined to criticise every 2 seconds. |
Oh bit rude there Lisa. Also pot and kettle comes to mind (perhaps time for a cuppa) |  | | |
| Michu .Done deal. on 22:06 - Jul 17 with 1268 views | Spratty |
| Michu .Done deal. on 21:44 - Jul 17 by Darran |
She didn't mention any % FFS but it's obvious we have somewhere along the journey. |
I think 100% was quite clearly implied if my elementary maths still serves. Although as pointed out by my fan DYS this is far from the only option. | | | |
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