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More fibs from Rachel? 12:43 - Feb 18 with 2379 viewsAnotherJohn

After the CV questions. there is now a bit of a flap about Rachel Reeves' "Who's Who" entry. Following a Times investigation it seems that this repeats the incorrect information about the length of time she worked at the Bank of England, and also contains a misleading claim to a prestigious journal publication. This is perhaps not the greatest of sins, but would have been considered very naughty if she had been applying for an academic post.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/rachel-reevess-whos-who-entry-lists

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/rachel-reeves-wrongly-claimed-to-have-work

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2015825/rachel-reeves-whos-who-error
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More fibs from Rachel? on 19:16 - Feb 20 with 904 viewsSullutaCreturned

More fibs from Rachel? on 13:19 - Feb 20 by Gwyn737

Can you name any former chancellors that have been given a derogatory nickname used as much as the one given to Reeves?

On reflection, misogynistic is probably the wrong word in this context. Sexist fits better.


She got the nickname because of her performance in her current job, not because of her gender.

It's her name and her job, I'd say Kamikwarsi was more derogatory. Then there's Jeremy C....definitely worse.
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More fibs from Rachel? on 20:52 - Feb 20 with 830 viewsFlashberryjack

More fibs from Rachel? on 19:16 - Feb 20 by SullutaCreturned

She got the nickname because of her performance in her current job, not because of her gender.

It's her name and her job, I'd say Kamikwarsi was more derogatory. Then there's Jeremy C....definitely worse.


Boris had some people call him all sorts of names, Gwyn didn't seem to be offended then.

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More fibs from Rachel? on 20:55 - Feb 20 with 827 viewsDJack

More fibs from Rachel? on 20:52 - Feb 20 by Flashberryjack

Boris had some people call him all sorts of names, Gwyn didn't seem to be offended then.


Because it was true, even aligned Conservatives would tell you as much.

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More fibs from Rachel? on 21:13 - Feb 20 with 800 viewsDr_Winston

More fibs from Rachel? on 20:55 - Feb 20 by DJack

Because it was true, even aligned Conservatives would tell you as much.


It was true. And everything that has been said about Reeves appears to be too.

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More fibs from Rachel? on 21:16 - Feb 20 with 789 viewsKilkennyjack



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More fibs from Rachel? on 21:19 - Feb 20 with 790 viewsGwyn737

More fibs from Rachel? on 20:52 - Feb 20 by Flashberryjack

Boris had some people call him all sorts of names, Gwyn didn't seem to be offended then.


Were any of them linked to his gender, race or age etc?
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More fibs from Rachel? on 21:23 - Feb 20 with 781 viewsFlashberryjack

More fibs from Rachel? on 21:19 - Feb 20 by Gwyn737

Were any of them linked to his gender, race or age etc?


Yep

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More fibs from Rachel? on 21:30 - Feb 20 with 752 viewsGwyn737

More fibs from Rachel? on 21:23 - Feb 20 by Flashberryjack

Yep


Which ones?

I could well be wrong but I genuinely can’t recall one that’s comparable to Reeves’.
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More fibs from Rachel? on 21:52 - Feb 20 with 729 viewsFlashberryjack

More fibs from Rachel? on 21:30 - Feb 20 by Gwyn737

Which ones?

I could well be wrong but I genuinely can’t recall one that’s comparable to Reeves’.



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More fibs from Rachel? on 22:30 - Feb 20 with 679 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

More fibs from Rachel? on 14:17 - Feb 20 by AnotherJohn

This is the best I can do on Chancellor nicknames. Gwyn may have underestimated how nasty politicians are to each other. Are any worse than Rachel's?

Geoffrey Howe = Mogadon Man.
Denis Healey = Pug
Nigel Lawson = Smuggins
Norman Lamont ?
Ken Clarke = Ken the Zen (based on something Bercow said about his zen-like calm).
Gordon Brown = ‘The Big Clunking Fist’ (from Blair)
Alistair Darling ?
George Osborne = “The Submarine” (because he dives from sight at the first sign of trouble).
Sajid Javid = CHINO ( name coined by Dom Cummings to mean chancellor in name only because of his alleged lack of control over the economy).
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Darling was nicknamed 'Red Ally' after Kinnock allegedly pointed him out as a threat from the left of the party
Rachel from accounts is nothing unusual in the context of previous nicknames unless you are a fully paid up member of the outrage everywhere club.
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More fibs from Rachel? on 22:47 - Feb 20 with 666 viewsBoundy

Strange that the focus is now on a nickname rather than the deceitful and deliberate action carried out by a "honourable " member

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More fibs from Rachel? on 22:50 - Feb 20 with 664 viewsGwyn737

More fibs from Rachel? on 21:52 - Feb 20 by Flashberryjack



Where’s the commonly used nickname in that clip?
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More fibs from Rachel? on 22:51 - Feb 20 with 660 viewsGwyn737

More fibs from Rachel? on 22:30 - Feb 20 by JACKMANANDBOY

Darling was nicknamed 'Red Ally' after Kinnock allegedly pointed him out as a threat from the left of the party
Rachel from accounts is nothing unusual in the context of previous nicknames unless you are a fully paid up member of the outrage everywhere club.
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Not outraged, just expressing an opinion.

I said originally I’d probably be a lone voice on here.
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More fibs from Rachel? on 00:38 - Feb 21 with 596 viewsRobbie

More fibs from Rachel? on 12:22 - Feb 20 by Boundy

The usual "suspects for the use of a better word , have remained silent as they do about most negative matters concerning this government and as they say silence is golden ,its sometimes not what you say but what you don't say.

What if it was Robert from accounts would that sit better with you? She's a women, she worked in accounts, a pretty accurate description , so what is misogynist about that ? that to me is taking the mick of someone so deserving of the disdain she receives .
You come across as a professional honest person ,so would you apply for a post knowing that you had embellished/lied to your peers with a CV or entries into Linkedin, if a person is willing to lie about something so basic then what else would they be prepared to they lie about.

IMO this is serious because Labour were going to be a shining light where integrity would be first and foremast in their thinking and if not taken seriously how then can they expect the voter to believe them in anything they say.
Starmer had a chance to set an example ( although with himself that bar is low already) but didn't hoping this would go away but it hasn't .


My name is Rob and I am offended by my name being mentioned as a similarity .
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More fibs from Rachel? on 13:35 - Feb 21 with 463 viewsKilkennyjack

More fibs from Rachel? on 14:18 - Feb 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Kwasi Kwarteng was nicknamed “KamiKwarsi”. Was that racist?

We all know what Jeremy hunt was regularly called on live tv and that wasnt an accident.

Gordon Brown was known as all sorts, “clunking fist” and “Bottler Brown”.

Incompetent politicians get nicknames. It’s satire not a hate crime.

“Rachel from accounts” is a pisstake of her lack of ability and her (self inflicted) over stating of her past experiences not the fact she has ovaries.

If we can’t take the piss out of our failing politicians for being useless then what do we have left?


Yes to a point, but the Rachel from Accounts tag is deliberate and to remind her/others that whatever she achieves in life she will always be just a nobody.

Its a term laced with both misogyny and snobbery.

If Rachel made it her deliberate lifes work she would still not fall to the poor standards of recent Tory failures.

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More fibs from Rachel? on 13:50 - Feb 21 with 456 viewsraynor94

More fibs from Rachel? on 13:35 - Feb 21 by Kilkennyjack

Yes to a point, but the Rachel from Accounts tag is deliberate and to remind her/others that whatever she achieves in life she will always be just a nobody.

Its a term laced with both misogyny and snobbery.

If Rachel made it her deliberate lifes work she would still not fall to the poor standards of recent Tory failures.


Your first paragraph makes no sense, the nickname has come from her embellishment of her CV, and her budget and other financial decisions have been pretty poor so far

I fail to see how it's misogyny Rachel is her name, and another favourite of yours Liz Truss was christened Lettuce, it's not misogyny it's saying it like it is

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More fibs from Rachel? on 14:13 - Feb 21 with 428 viewsBoundy

More fibs from Rachel? on 00:38 - Feb 21 by Robbie

My name is Rob and I am offended by my name being mentioned as a similarity .


Then all I can say is suck it up , and if that offends anyone then they can also suck it up

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More fibs from Rachel? on 15:03 - Feb 21 with 369 viewsFlashberryjack

More fibs from Rachel? on 00:38 - Feb 21 by Robbie

My name is Rob and I am offended by my name being mentioned as a similarity .



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More fibs from Rachel? on 15:18 - Feb 21 with 346 viewsSullutaCreturned

More fibs from Rachel? on 21:19 - Feb 20 by Gwyn737

Were any of them linked to his gender, race or age etc?


Which bit of "Rachel from accounts" is lonked to her Gender, race or age?

I'm genuinely puzzled by that.
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More fibs from Rachel? on 19:03 - Feb 21 with 272 viewsGwyn737

More fibs from Rachel? on 15:18 - Feb 21 by SullutaCreturned

Which bit of "Rachel from accounts" is lonked to her Gender, race or age?

I'm genuinely puzzled by that.


As I posted earlier in the thread, it’s basically calling her a trumped up secretary, taking a traditionally women’s job and belittling it.

So far a few have tried to give examples of nicknames for men as comparable, but I’ve yet to see one that is.
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More fibs from Rachel? on 19:35 - Feb 21 with 246 viewsFlashberryjack

More fibs from Rachel? on 19:03 - Feb 21 by Gwyn737

As I posted earlier in the thread, it’s basically calling her a trumped up secretary, taking a traditionally women’s job and belittling it.

So far a few have tried to give examples of nicknames for men as comparable, but I’ve yet to see one that is.


Bojo the clown, Bozo the clown, Tarzan, 2 jags. The milk thief. Wicked which of the south.

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More fibs from Rachel? on 20:03 - Feb 21 with 216 viewsraynor94

More fibs from Rachel? on 19:03 - Feb 21 by Gwyn737

As I posted earlier in the thread, it’s basically calling her a trumped up secretary, taking a traditionally women’s job and belittling it.

So far a few have tried to give examples of nicknames for men as comparable, but I’ve yet to see one that is.


We will have to agree to disagree, Rachel from accounts could be the manager of the accounts department.

Are you honestly happy with her embellishments and record so far, not to mention her hammering of clothes expenses at the same time as she cancelled the wfa.

I had high hopes for her when she was in opposition, but she's been a massive disappointment already

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More fibs from Rachel? on 20:05 - Feb 21 with 210 viewsGwyn737

More fibs from Rachel? on 19:35 - Feb 21 by Flashberryjack

Bojo the clown, Bozo the clown, Tarzan, 2 jags. The milk thief. Wicked which of the south.


Which ones of those are based on sex?

As I said, I’ve no issue with Reeves the incompetent/useless etc., it’s the latent sexism I don’t like.

Edit: I’ve thought of one. The Grocer’s Daughter for Thatcher. Not sexist but snobbery. The same in that it puts an unnecessary barrier up.

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More fibs from Rachel? on 21:48 - Feb 21 with 139 viewsSullutaCreturned

More fibs from Rachel? on 20:05 - Feb 21 by Gwyn737

Which ones of those are based on sex?

As I said, I’ve no issue with Reeves the incompetent/useless etc., it’s the latent sexism I don’t like.

Edit: I’ve thought of one. The Grocer’s Daughter for Thatcher. Not sexist but snobbery. The same in that it puts an unnecessary barrier up.

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How is it sexist? It uses her legal first name.

Was "maggie the milk snatcher" sexist? Would you be fine with Iron lady because that is based on sex/gender? What about "that bloody woman"?

Attila the hen...the great she elephant...

How do you feel about "Tony Blur" or "Tony Bliar" and what about Teflon Tony" are those sexist?
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More fibs from Rachel? on 23:06 - Feb 21 with 89 viewsraynor94

More fibs from Rachel? on 20:05 - Feb 21 by Gwyn737

Which ones of those are based on sex?

As I said, I’ve no issue with Reeves the incompetent/useless etc., it’s the latent sexism I don’t like.

Edit: I’ve thought of one. The Grocer’s Daughter for Thatcher. Not sexist but snobbery. The same in that it puts an unnecessary barrier up.

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I think you need to put the spade down Gwyn😉

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