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Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? 21:54 - Dec 21 with 4931 views

A decent run of form solves a great deal of ills.

I was as worried as most with our direction and it truly wasn't smelling of roses around here for long periods.

I can't say hardly anyone saw this coming but things are seriously looking much much better.

So as for signings

Nardi
Morrison
Varane
Morgan
Saito

All looking good

Signings injured but have had few signs of improvement

Dembele
Celar

Youth players progressing well

Kolli
Lloyd

Other signings - some hopes

Ashby
Madsen

Ones that a way to go

Santos
Bennie

Existing squad players performing / injured

Cook
Dunne
Smyth
Field
Chair

Frey
JCS
Colback

Others

Paal
EDB
Anderson

Seems a squad that does have more depth than previously if we look at recent form.

Was Nourry ster right all along???

And as soon as we have all been made aware of who is injured once when they are due back - has coincided with upturn in form.

Suddenly this forum has all gone quiet on the Nourry Out rhetoric !!!

Am not being a smart a*se. I was worried about the set up as much as anyone,..

Was the data right all along ??

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Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? on 21:39 - Dec 22 with 428 views

Watford_Ranger

Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? on 08:09 - Dec 22 by Wilkinswatercarrier
👍 Madsen is the one for me. £X millions and the bloke can't even tackle. Oh, and the self inflicted left back problem.

Completely agree but I guess we just have to ‘trust the process’ with Madsen. I can’t see it working out but then he’s just not my sort of player. The cool kids on Twitter seem to think he’s doing ok but I can’t see it yet. The left-back situation was indeed a farce that will have to be remedied unless Larkeche is the grand plan.

Not going to get overexcited now we’re at the dizzy heights of 14th just as it was silly to overreact after half a dozen games. If we can be here in March knowing we aren’t going down and needing an unlikely but possible run to nab sixth that’ll do.

Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? on 22:18 - Dec 22 with 330 views

LongRanger

Whilst he’s the self appointed head of recruitment, there is a lot more to being a CEO than signings, this club, despite a short run of wins and draws, is clearly not in a good place, we need and should expect better than a dishonest 27 year old with zero experience.

Nardi, Morrison and Varane are doing well, it doesn’t make him a good CEO.

Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? on 22:30 - Dec 22 with 305 views

stainrods_elbow

Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? on 08:45 - Dec 22 by dmm
Marti should get the credit for finding solutions to the issues resulting from Nourry's decisions. Some of the players too. If we had a lesser manager we'd be in deeper shit. "Nourry out" for me too.

How many more times! Marti has significant input into all player signings, as he's said himself, as well as saying numerous times he trusts and likes his players and their mentality. All performance-related problems are everyone's issue at the club, but mostly the coach's as (i) he is involved in recruitment, (ii) trains the players, and (iii) implements the playing style/game plan, who gets credit or criticism accordingly. He was rightly being questioned by some of us at least when we were down among the dead men, and still is when we look at games like Oxford and Bristol City, and yesterday he and his players get some rapturous/cautious applause. That's the way it works, and Marti knows that as well as anyone.

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Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? on 22:35 - Dec 22 with 295 views

stainrods_elbow

Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? on 22:18 - Dec 22 by LongRanger
Whilst he’s the self appointed head of recruitment, there is a lot more to being a CEO than signings, this club, despite a short run of wins and draws, is clearly not in a good place, we need and should expect better than a dishonest 27 year old with zero experience. Nardi, Morrison and Varane are doing well, it doesn’t make him a good CEO.

Nourry doesn't have 'zero' experience in football, even if he seems to have sugarcoated his CV (as I'm sure many of us have) to some degree.

Just out of interest - what would it take to revise your opinion of him as CEO or at least dial down on the agenda-driven hysteria about him that's been promulgated here?

If you really think he's a fraud, it's Hoos and the owners you should be turning your ire on, I suggest, as he didn't get the role of CEO by abracadabra.

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Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? on 22:40 - Dec 22 with 264 views

stainrods_elbow

Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? on 10:37 - Dec 22 by dmm
You may prove right about Nourry in the long term, but the issues with this CEO are not only about player recruitment. His communication (or rather the lack of it) strategy has pee'd off a large section of the fans and he appears to have shut down Cifuentes' engagement with this site and the supporters evening. That's control freakery which, in my experience, always rings alarm bells.

Except you don't know that Marti didn't appear at the FF because he was prevented from doing so, so you're peddling tiresome speculation as if it were fact. What does that leave you and your ilk with? The fact that Cifuentes won't/doesn't want to talk to a fans site - which again may well be MC's personal decision (and prerogative)? That's just risible! We all enjoy posting here, but we're really not that important - what part of that don't you get?

I'm not convinced of Nourry, but I'm not convinced of Marti either, or the owners, or some of the players, so take a chill pill (I know it's me talking before the usual suspects pile in with their hilarious emoticon-laden sideswipes), and enjoy the weekend!

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Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? on 22:49 - Dec 22 with 238 views

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Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? on 22:40 - Dec 22 by stainrods_elbow

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'Not that important'...?! How DARE you!

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Where are the on 23:23 - Dec 22 with 182 views

GaryHaddock

Where are the on 09:57 - Dec 22 by stevec

Granted, the forward signings have been less than good, but Nardi, Varane, Morgan and Morrison have been excellent signings.

To be fair, I don’t think many of the signings were brought in to start games, largely they’re here to give us a better bench, they’re young and would have slowly been introduced to the first team. I’d say only Nardi, Dembele and possibly Madsen were brought in to start. Sadly we were quickly decimated by injuries to first team regulars and they’ve all had to play far sooner than intended.

We’ve had a successful first half of 2024 under this regime and a poor second half although that has presently improved. It’ll be interesting to see if the club fall back on the recent improvement as a cushion for the rest of the season, which might easily backfire, or try to do something about CF in Jan and be better set up for the start of next season.

Now is not really the time to be pulling against the existing club structure.

'Now is not really the time to be pulling against the existing club structure'

Not sure a few whiny words on a football forum is that. There are no 'Nourry Out' painted bedsheets.

Where are the "Nourry out" comments now ??? on 23:28 - Dec 22 with 166 views

muckduck

Yeah we did seem to forget about 99% of the off the pitch problems when Mick Beale had us top of the league. Sometimes the on field results genuinely do control the narrative entirely.

Some of the Nourry criticism is really fair IMO. Though some take it way too far. The communication with fans, potentially an over-reliance on data (if we didn't have Marti as coach, would we be adrift already?) and ironically the bigger money signings being the most suspect (Madsen, Celar).

With that said, some of the newbies are extremely impressive as the OP has mentioned - we really only need one to go for big money to recoup any losses on the players that don't work out. Nourry also had a big role to play in moving away from the Ainsworth style of football and recruiting Marti (though I imagine he's exaggerated his involvement in this a fair bit).

I think he has been somewhat fortunate with Marti's coaching bailing us out of what could have been an even worse start, but alot of his suggestions and improvements are really healthy for the club - if he's willing to amend mistakes (communication) and learn along the way I don't think it's fair to hold it against him.

It gets mentioned quite alot about our head of Performance working remotely - Whilst it would be nice to have him UK based, the exact same processes that were successful last season would still be in place - he shouldn't need to be there in person to re-inforce this, it should already be being done. Really don't think the growing injury list is a direct impact of him working remotely, I get why it would be annoying to some but I just don't see it.

Overall for me, I think he has the right objectives in terms of where we need to move to as a club - but the execution of this has been really turbulent particularly with the injury situation, somewhat outside of his control. Certainly not calling for a new CEO anyhow.

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