| Could be it for Russell Martin 22:18 - Dec 4 with 6898 views | KeithHaynes |
Being told by a good contact down in Southampton that this could be it, the only thing stopping his sacking is the millions in compo that they will have to shell out. |  |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 20:40 - Dec 5 with 1584 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 08:34 - Dec 5 by Boundy |
Didn't someone once say trust the process, where next I wonder. |
Yeah but the process was to make Russell Martin a shedload of money for mostly failure.
It's working |  | | |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 20:42 - Dec 5 with 1574 views | KeithHaynes |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 13:36 - Dec 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Wood is only about 22 three years younger than Cabango. An athlete and sprinter who need proper coaching to develop
Would Martin if he stays go for Darling or Cabango? . Swansea was shipping goals in the Championship with these players so they would not be able to deal with Chelsea and co.
He dumped Fisher and Sorinola on Swansea from MK Dons. |
As I said yesterday, he will either go tomorrow or after Saturday.
They really have no choice. | |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 22:38 - Dec 5 with 1424 views | QJumpingJack |
what did the owners consider to be his qualities when they appointed him in August 2021? | | | |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 22:45 - Dec 5 with 1417 views | Dr_Winston |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 22:38 - Dec 5 by QJumpingJack |
what did the owners consider to be his qualities when they appointed him in August 2021? |
I suspect they bought into the "Swansea way" nonsense. Assuming that we'd only accept managers who played a certain way.
There's probably some justification in that. I've seen loads of people creaming themselves over Williams's recent statement that we're somehow "unique". Obvious nonsense of course. We're about as bog standard as football teams get.
Cardiff fans rightly get abused in these parts for thinking that they're somehow special and more important than they are. Plenty of ours also need to look in a mirror. [Post edited 6 Dec 7:19]
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 00:44 - Dec 6 with 1380 views | GVJack |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 10:43 - Dec 5 by onehunglow |
It’s a perfect game for us in many ways
It sees how we can compete with better quality teams
Lukey will knows exactly how they play and we can ,indeed shouod,adapt
I’m looking to see their defenders,especially Manningvand Wood being targeted .
Wood could really be exposed ,if we use our players appropriately .
I think we can and will beat them
2-1 Swans . ( Vipotnik and Eom )
So there |
Were struggling to compete (ok dominate) with equivalent and lower level teams... Let alone better quality ones!!! | | | |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 00:59 - Dec 6 with 1369 views | STID2017 |
Martinez ?
The same guy who got us playing really attractive football for the first time in years ?
Who won us the 3rd Division / League 1 title ?
Give your head a wobble |  |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 08:37 - Dec 6 with 1250 views | shandyjack |
Amen, although maybe in time my anger towards him will wain as it has Martinez. I've never got the Monk hate tbf, wasn't the greatest of managers but did get us to 8th in the PL |  |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 09:17 - Dec 6 with 1206 views | onehunglow |
We agree
Again | |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 09:19 - Dec 6 with 1200 views | onehunglow |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 00:44 - Dec 6 by GVJack |
Were struggling to compete (ok dominate) with equivalent and lower level teams... Let alone better quality ones!!! |
Fair point
Should have said “ could”
We can compete ,if we gets our heads right | |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 09:37 - Dec 6 with 1155 views | jack247 |
We’ve got eight games before we play Southampton, all of them are more important.
With any luck he’ll be sacked before we then and we’ll treat it like a normal FA cup game. | | | |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 09:50 - Dec 6 with 1129 views | RichardO |
Paid to do a job be it as a player or a manager, then was going to be paid by another club, as you say he was looking after number one but in doing so heĺped the club, how many people in life do you see people looking out for themselves, it is human nature, players and managers move on some of them have helped the club get into stronger positions than they were before they took over, the legacy of some remain high even though they may have tried to derail that strong position by touting players, he got us results and helped us to get in a better position as a club that was hard to tear down even if he wanted to.
We have seen players and managers come and go, some helped as as both, some only as players but ultimately if they have not got the experience needed at the level they are working at and unable or unwilling to learn by mistakes they have seen made by them or others and cannot adapt to correct those mistakes then they cannot escape the scorn they receive, rightly or wrongly given the team they are part of.
People move on we will see what will happen with Cabango and Darling, will both be berated if moving on to better things even if it is just more money because of precieved betrayal of the club badge.
I wouldn't have given Martin a new contract at the end of his second season on the back of a couple of good results at the end of that season I would have like to have seen him prove that he had learnt enough in that two season to be able to improve the team and compete at the level he was managing at then, seeing positive results then and only then renewing/extending his contract.
Cooper and Martin moved on but it is very debatable whether they left us with a stronger team when they left looking out for number one but maybe their hands were being tied beyond what they found acceptable by the ownership.
I want to see us rip teams apart with no mercy no matter how many ex players or manager are in the opposition.ranks. | | | |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 10:19 - Dec 6 with 1102 views | onehunglow |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 09:37 - Dec 6 by jack247 |
We’ve got eight games before we play Southampton, all of them are more important.
With any luck he’ll be sacked before we then and we’ll treat it like a normal FA cup game. |
It’s hard to be objective and sensible when it comes to sport and one’s home town team.
I’ve said enough about Russ to last a lifetime but personally,I would rather us face him as a coach purely for petty revenge reasons . It’s not good ,but it’s how many feel about this chap .
I just hope ,if we do face his team,Lukey will at least be smart enough to deploy the obvious tactics
As an aside, Spurs gave a winner away at Muff purely by play faff football
Why do they do it ? | |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 10:42 - Dec 6 with 1068 views | KeithHaynes |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 10:19 - Dec 6 by onehunglow |
It’s hard to be objective and sensible when it comes to sport and one’s home town team.
I’ve said enough about Russ to last a lifetime but personally,I would rather us face him as a coach purely for petty revenge reasons . It’s not good ,but it’s how many feel about this chap .
I just hope ,if we do face his team,Lukey will at least be smart enough to deploy the obvious tactics
As an aside, Spurs gave a winner away at Muff purely by play faff football
Why do they do it ? |
It’s possibly an intelligence thing that people cannot separate comments on football to comments about someone personally. | |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 10:45 - Dec 6 with 1054 views | Whiterockin |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 10:42 - Dec 6 by KeithHaynes |
It’s possibly an intelligence thing that people cannot separate comments on football to comments about someone personally. |
That will go over the heads of some.  |  | | |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 12:05 - Dec 6 with 949 views | onehunglow |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 10:42 - Dec 6 by KeithHaynes |
It’s possibly an intelligence thing that people cannot separate comments on football to comments about someone personally. |
That's true but not for all
Emotion is often most profound in sport
Without it, things are rather pointless | |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 12:06 - Dec 6 with 947 views | onehunglow |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 10:45 - Dec 6 by Whiterockin |
That will go over the heads of some. |
But not all
We are all sons of the flesh and stained accordingly  | |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 12:26 - Dec 6 with 912 views | jack247 |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 10:19 - Dec 6 by onehunglow |
It’s hard to be objective and sensible when it comes to sport and one’s home town team.
I’ve said enough about Russ to last a lifetime but personally,I would rather us face him as a coach purely for petty revenge reasons . It’s not good ,but it’s how many feel about this chap .
I just hope ,if we do face his team,Lukey will at least be smart enough to deploy the obvious tactics
As an aside, Spurs gave a winner away at Muff purely by play faff football
Why do they do it ? |
Yes I get that. On the day I’ll want to get one over on our old manager as well. Same with Cardiff game etc
I’m just pointing out we’ve got eight more important games before then and he may well not be in charge at that point.
I hope he’s not, because this circus over what was essentially an average manager is boring already.
It will be roughly a year from when Williams took over and we got absolutely annihilated by Bournemouth. I’ll be more interested to see how we get on in a comparable fixture now he’s had plenty of time to put his stamp on the team. | | | |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 12:47 - Dec 6 with 857 views | Boundy |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 08:37 - Dec 6 by shandyjack |
Amen, although maybe in time my anger towards him will wain as it has Martinez. I've never got the Monk hate tbf, wasn't the greatest of managers but did get us to 8th in the PL |
Yes he did , but who but a few remembers or actually cares that we finished 8th , he started the demise of the Club as one playing in the PL and for me that should never be forgotten., not only because of playing in the PL but the external factors lost such as a higher profile and real chance to grow the Club . | |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 15:21 - Dec 6 with 717 views | KeithHaynes |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 20:40 - Dec 5 by SullutaCreturned |
Yeah but the process was to make Russell Martin a shedload of money for mostly failure.
It's working |
Happens for the majority of managers, do bad get rewarded. | |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 15:43 - Dec 6 with 679 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 15:21 - Dec 6 by KeithHaynes |
Happens for the majority of managers, do bad get rewarded. |
Well sign a contract and get sacked uite quickly, yes.
Not to get into it too much but he has this attitude as relected in his quote "I'd rather lose my way" which should leave people in no doubt about him. Getting results for the club and it's fans doesn't bother him, it's all about him and what he can do for himself.
I was happy when he left and now I don't give 2 hoots about him nor what he does. I hope we win the cup tie purely because |I want us to win, not because of him. That said, if somebody guaranteed that we'd win the next 8 and get thumped by Saints I'd take their hand off right now. | | | |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 15:43 - Dec 6 with 678 views | Whiterockin |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 15:21 - Dec 6 by KeithHaynes |
Happens for the majority of managers, do bad get rewarded. |
Good work by his agent tieing in an automatic contract extension on promotion, Southampton didn't have to sign it. | | | |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 20:59 - Dec 6 with 518 views | KeithHaynes |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 15:43 - Dec 6 by Whiterockin |
Good work by his agent tieing in an automatic contract extension on promotion, Southampton didn't have to sign it. |
12 million compo, I would pick the youth team tomorrow and take the bucks. | |
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| Could be it for Russell Martin on 21:02 - Dec 6 with 498 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 20:59 - Dec 6 by KeithHaynes |
12 million compo, I would pick the youth team tomorrow and take the bucks. |
Nothing rewards failure like football or being the CEO of a global corporation...mind you being a CEO could get you shot! | | | |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 21:45 - Dec 6 with 454 views | grabsplatter |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 18:51 - Dec 5 by vetchonian |
Martin initially played him on the left with Rhys Williams on the right.....both out if position |
No he didn't, Williams was played on the left side of the 3 |  | | |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 21:59 - Dec 6 with 439 views | vetchonian |
| Could be it for Russell Martin on 21:45 - Dec 6 by grabsplatter |
No he didn't, Williams was played on the left side of the 3 |
not at Fulham away | |
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