| Electric vehicles 10:04 - Nov 26 with 2384 views | Boundy |
Are they really the future?
With take up of new electric vehicles being much slower than predicted and the pursuit towards cleaner alternative are we seeing a slow decline in the use of electric cars. Its been announced that Northvolt , one of the wests largest manufacturers of vehicle batteries is filing for bankruptcy due to a number of factors ,one of which being BMW cancelling an order worth up to 2 billion euros. |  |
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| Electric vehicles on 10:11 - Nov 26 with 1373 views | onehunglow |
Morning boundy boy
Well, we are committed here
Went to get a Kodiac six months ago and ended up getting a Enyaq VRS Coupe. We had a home charger installed and our drive dug up to unloop our electric supply
It’s been well worth it
Unless you do long trips regularly ,it’s sensible
My daughter has one as does her husband | |
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| Electric vehicles on 10:32 - Nov 26 with 1350 views | Whiterockin |
Many will have charging issues if you can not park outside your house, flats and terraced houses are a particular problem. Until the charging infrastructure in residential areas improves or there is a removable battery charging pack that you can take into your house to charge overnight there will always be problems for some. |  | | |
| Electric vehicles on 11:51 - Nov 26 with 1328 views | Boundy |
| Electric vehicles on 10:11 - Nov 26 by onehunglow |
Morning boundy boy
Well, we are committed here
Went to get a Kodiac six months ago and ended up getting a Enyaq VRS Coupe. We had a home charger installed and our drive dug up to unloop our electric supply
It’s been well worth it
Unless you do long trips regularly ,it’s sensible
My daughter has one as does her husband |
Morning to you sir, I have no gripe but imo eclectic vehicles are not the way forward if you want to save the planet , production costs are greater as are depreciation values over fossil fuelled cars , many other components are needed which in the main are buried in the ground etc etc. I can't understand why its been left to individuals and small companies to develop the use of hydrogen fuelled vehicles, I understand the initial costs are high but like all new technology these should drop and the technology advances.
I'm still driving around in my straight 6 3.0 car and will for as as long this lot in power allow me , maybe when the Stasi impose their will on the rest of us that fossil fuelled cars disappear I'll either be dead or too old to care. | |
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| Electric vehicles on 12:01 - Nov 26 with 1315 views | onehunglow |
| Electric vehicles on 11:51 - Nov 26 by Boundy |
Morning to you sir, I have no gripe but imo eclectic vehicles are not the way forward if you want to save the planet , production costs are greater as are depreciation values over fossil fuelled cars , many other components are needed which in the main are buried in the ground etc etc. I can't understand why its been left to individuals and small companies to develop the use of hydrogen fuelled vehicles, I understand the initial costs are high but like all new technology these should drop and the technology advances.
I'm still driving around in my straight 6 3.0 car and will for as as long this lot in power allow me , maybe when the Stasi impose their will on the rest of us that fossil fuelled cars disappear I'll either be dead or too old to care. |
Being a selfish cooker , didn't buy it to save planet but cos I liked the car
India and China are ruining the planet anyway
Chaq un a son gout | |
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| Electric vehicles on 18:34 - Nov 26 with 1239 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
The closure of the Luton van plant announcement today is in contrast to the decision by Porsche.
That idiot Milliband needs to understand the impact for the UK in being out of step with the rest of the market, that is we will be producing the wrong thing at the wrong time. |  |
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| Electric vehicles on 18:38 - Nov 26 with 1233 views | Whiterockin |
| Electric vehicles on 18:34 - Nov 26 by JACKMANANDBOY |
The closure of the Luton van plant announcement today is in contrast to the decision by Porsche.
That idiot Milliband needs to understand the impact for the UK in being out of step with the rest of the market, that is we will be producing the wrong thing at the wrong time. |
Wasn't a docks expansion cancelled or something along those lines. | | | |
| Electric vehicles on 18:46 - Nov 26 with 1215 views | builthjack |
I drive 800-1000 miles a week.
I dropped mine for a service at Bridgend a few years ago.
They gave me an electric courtesy car for the day.
I told them my next appointment was near Shrewsbury.
They said we had better give you a diesel instead. |  |
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| Electric vehicles on 18:53 - Nov 26 with 1209 views | raynor94 |
1100 jobs at Luton now, just afrer Tata, when are we as a Country going to learn, Milliband is obsessed with Carbon neutral, whilst India and China stick a middle finger up.
This on a day when the Government is aiming to get people back to work, just after they increased the Employers NI contributions. |  |
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| Electric vehicles on 18:54 - Nov 26 with 1205 views | onehunglow |
| Electric vehicles on 18:46 - Nov 26 by builthjack |
I drive 800-1000 miles a week.
I dropped mine for a service at Bridgend a few years ago.
They gave me an electric courtesy car for the day.
I told them my next appointment was near Shrewsbury.
They said we had better give you a diesel instead. |
Rapid chargers can top you up in the time it takes to have a coffee and croissant
Taxi drivers like them and they are on the go all day | |
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| Electric vehicles on 19:10 - Nov 26 with 1188 views | Whiterockin |
| Electric vehicles on 18:54 - Nov 26 by onehunglow |
Rapid chargers can top you up in the time it takes to have a coffee and croissant
Taxi drivers like them and they are on the go all day |
They burn the batteries out, it will dramatically cut your range in only a couple of years. | | | |
| Electric vehicles on 19:41 - Nov 26 with 1166 views | swan65split |
they'll be forced onto us here in UK and maybe parts of EU , cant see them taking off in many parts of the world,
next big money earner here in supplying and maintaining charging points. |  | | |
| Electric vehicles on 19:52 - Nov 26 with 1157 views | max936 |
| Electric vehicles on 10:32 - Nov 26 by Whiterockin |
Many will have charging issues if you can not park outside your house, flats and terraced houses are a particular problem. Until the charging infrastructure in residential areas improves or there is a removable battery charging pack that you can take into your house to charge overnight there will always be problems for some. |
In most cases the main fuse has to be upgraded to at least 80 amp 100 amp in some cases, so incoming supply cables need to be able to cope without overheating, the cables from the cut-out [main fuse] need to be upgraded to 25mm instead of the 16mm if fuse is to be 100 amp.
Survey has to be done firstly in most cases obviously. |  |
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| Electric vehicles on 19:55 - Nov 26 with 1147 views | max936 |
| Electric vehicles on 18:46 - Nov 26 by builthjack |
I drive 800-1000 miles a week.
I dropped mine for a service at Bridgend a few years ago.
They gave me an electric courtesy car for the day.
I told them my next appointment was near Shrewsbury.
They said we had better give you a diesel instead. |
Had a new Vito Mercedes work van recently so that won't be changing for a few years, lovely vehicle it is to. [Post edited 26 Nov 20:24]
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| Electric vehicles on 20:06 - Nov 26 with 1130 views | Luther27 |
I’m sure I read somewhere that major particulate pollution comes from wood burners and not diesel vehicles. So why are we phasing them out for high cost electric vehicles especially as we don’t have the grid capacity….we shut down coal power stations and no gas fired ones to replace them etc…to provide charge if the govt targets were miraculously achieved. | | | |
| Electric vehicles on 20:06 - Nov 26 with 1129 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Electric vehicles on 11:51 - Nov 26 by Boundy |
Morning to you sir, I have no gripe but imo eclectic vehicles are not the way forward if you want to save the planet , production costs are greater as are depreciation values over fossil fuelled cars , many other components are needed which in the main are buried in the ground etc etc. I can't understand why its been left to individuals and small companies to develop the use of hydrogen fuelled vehicles, I understand the initial costs are high but like all new technology these should drop and the technology advances.
I'm still driving around in my straight 6 3.0 car and will for as as long this lot in power allow me , maybe when the Stasi impose their will on the rest of us that fossil fuelled cars disappear I'll either be dead or too old to care. |
Not to forget that at a certain point (maybe just when you want to sell it and get a new one) the battery will be breaking down and need a very expensive replacement. Who is going to buy a second hand car that needs a replacement engine that could cost more than the car?
I'm not doubting the need to protect the planet, I don't doubt that humanity is ruining our world but this electric car stuff is just another scam. | | | |
| Electric vehicles on 20:21 - Nov 26 with 1115 views | max936 |
| Electric vehicles on 20:06 - Nov 26 by Luther27 |
I’m sure I read somewhere that major particulate pollution comes from wood burners and not diesel vehicles. So why are we phasing them out for high cost electric vehicles especially as we don’t have the grid capacity….we shut down coal power stations and no gas fired ones to replace them etc…to provide charge if the govt targets were miraculously achieved. |
Wood Burners are lethal, you must have an up to date Carbon Monoxide monitor with those, they should dated on the monitor itself and they normal need replacing every 7 to 10 yrs and put above head height in same room on top of a unit screwed to wall or better still the ceiling, they apply to Gas appliances as well, but don't put them in same cupboard as the boiler, I see some in airing cupboards far to often  | |
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| Electric vehicles on 20:38 - Nov 26 with 1092 views | onehunglow |
| Electric vehicles on 20:06 - Nov 26 by SullutaCreturned |
Not to forget that at a certain point (maybe just when you want to sell it and get a new one) the battery will be breaking down and need a very expensive replacement. Who is going to buy a second hand car that needs a replacement engine that could cost more than the car?
I'm not doubting the need to protect the planet, I don't doubt that humanity is ruining our world but this electric car stuff is just another scam. |
Well,I’m glad I have been.
I love the car
I’ve had counties cars in my lifetime and this is just beautiful.
We researched for months .
Decision was reached without any pressure from anyone
I’m not really a guy taken in by BS or by salesfolk | |
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| Electric vehicles on 20:46 - Nov 26 with 1082 views | builthjack |
| Electric vehicles on 19:55 - Nov 26 by max936 |
Had a new Vito Mercedes work van recently so that won't be changing for a few years, lovely vehicle it is to. [Post edited 26 Nov 20:24]
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| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Electric vehicles on 21:45 - Nov 26 with 1048 views | majorraglan |
| Electric vehicles on 18:53 - Nov 26 by raynor94 |
1100 jobs at Luton now, just afrer Tata, when are we as a Country going to learn, Milliband is obsessed with Carbon neutral, whilst India and China stick a middle finger up.
This on a day when the Government is aiming to get people back to work, just after they increased the Employers NI contributions. |
The ZEV target was introduced by the last government under the stewardship of Rishi Sunak. The EU have their own ZEV targets which are very closely aligned with ours and both will ban the sale of ICE’s by 2035.
I agree with you about China and India, if they don’t clean up their act we should look at how we trade with them. | | | |
| Electric vehicles on 22:22 - Nov 26 with 1012 views | max936 |
| Electric vehicles on 20:46 - Nov 26 by builthjack |
Leccy? |
Nah, good old Diesel | |
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| Electric vehicles on 22:40 - Nov 26 with 988 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Electric vehicles on 21:45 - Nov 26 by majorraglan |
The ZEV target was introduced by the last government under the stewardship of Rishi Sunak. The EU have their own ZEV targets which are very closely aligned with ours and both will ban the sale of ICE’s by 2035.
I agree with you about China and India, if they don’t clean up their act we should look at how we trade with them. |
Johnson set the 2030 target, Sunak aligned it with the EU at 2035 which sensible as it is a similar market. Starmer has gone back to 2030 which puts the UK in a difficult place.
Watch out for back tracking! | |
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| Electric vehicles on 10:40 - Nov 27 with 877 views | controversial_jack |
| Electric vehicles on 22:22 - Nov 26 by max936 |
Nah, good old Diesel |
I much prefer diesel to petrol. More torque, and better imo as petrol contains benzene which is carcinogenic | | | |
| Electric vehicles on 17:50 - Nov 27 with 826 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Electric vehicles on 18:54 - Nov 26 by onehunglow |
Rapid chargers can top you up in the time it takes to have a coffee and croissant
Taxi drivers like them and they are on the go all day |
I hve a taxi driving mate, he had a car that had done over 500k when someone crashed into him and wrote it off.
Will an electric car get 500k miles in before the battery needs replacing?
What will the resale value of an electric car be when it's 7 or 8 years old and the battery is close to needing replacing?
How much does it cost to replace an EV electric battery.?
What are the environmental issues around EV cars? Never mind the child exploitation issues involved in mining the rare chemicsls used.
Will there be enough rare chemicals to make enough EV's for everyone who needs or wants a car? | | | |
| Electric vehicles on 18:26 - Nov 27 with 787 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Electric vehicles on 17:50 - Nov 27 by SullutaCreturned |
I hve a taxi driving mate, he had a car that had done over 500k when someone crashed into him and wrote it off.
Will an electric car get 500k miles in before the battery needs replacing?
What will the resale value of an electric car be when it's 7 or 8 years old and the battery is close to needing replacing?
How much does it cost to replace an EV electric battery.?
What are the environmental issues around EV cars? Never mind the child exploitation issues involved in mining the rare chemicsls used.
Will there be enough rare chemicals to make enough EV's for everyone who needs or wants a car? |
Taking into consideration all these questions and others, where is the fully absorbed CO2 cost/benefit for replacing a ICE car with a new EV? | |
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| Electric vehicles on 19:06 - Nov 27 with 743 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Electric vehicles on 10:40 - Nov 27 by controversial_jack |
I much prefer diesel to petrol. More torque, and better imo as petrol contains benzene which is carcinogenic |
Go fish. | | | |
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