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Farmers 15:36 - Nov 21 with 6752 viewscontroversial_jack

Getting on my nerves with their whinging, and they are the only ones that do any work attitude
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Farmers on 11:18 - Dec 2 with 1258 viewsmangohilljack

Farmers on 11:01 - Dec 2 by onehunglow

I try to avoid ad hominem crap
It's not always easy
We are never wholly right or wrong
We agree and disagree
I do with myself all the time
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As a young Bob Hoskins wisely put it, "It's good to talk."
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Farmers on 11:15 - Dec 5 with 1135 viewsfelixstowe_jack

A see the Snowdon National park authority is trying to stop farmers from allowing them to open suitable fields for tourist to park their cars while visiting the area. Apparently it is against thier plans for the National Park.

So traffic chaos will remain and farmers will be denied a much needed source of income. I guess the Senedd would rather collect parking fines themselves than solve the problem.

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Farmers on 11:19 - Dec 5 with 1131 viewscontroversial_jack

So the farmers, who in the past were exempt from IH tax, are now expected to pay some at half the rate and higher threshold than the rest of us who have also worked all our lives for what we have?
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Farmers on 19:16 - Dec 5 with 1075 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Farmers on 11:19 - Dec 5 by controversial_jack

So the farmers, who in the past were exempt from IH tax, are now expected to pay some at half the rate and higher threshold than the rest of us who have also worked all our lives for what we have?


The government could always nationlise farmland and run the farms themselves. A bit like Stalin did in the USSR which led to a 50% decrease in food production leading to a famine and millions starving. An estimated 7 to 9 million people in the USSR died of starvation.

If history tells us anything it is not to repeat the mistakes of the past .

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Farmers on 10:14 - Dec 6 with 984 viewsWhiterockin

Coincidence? or just a typical politician.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevg9zv9pwno
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Farmers on 10:31 - Dec 6 with 978 viewsraynor94

Farmers on 10:14 - Dec 6 by Whiterockin

Coincidence? or just a typical politician.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevg9zv9pwno


Mmmm that's a tough one, I'm going for typical politician.

Sadly Labour are no different to the Tories

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Farmers on 10:34 - Dec 6 with 969 viewsWhiterockin

Farmers on 10:31 - Dec 6 by raynor94

Mmmm that's a tough one, I'm going for typical politician.

Sadly Labour are no different to the Tories


I've always said that they are all the same, it's just down to the ones in power have more opportunities. I challenge anyone to dispute this.
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Farmers on 10:43 - Dec 6 with 955 viewscontroversial_jack

Farmers on 19:16 - Dec 5 by felixstowe_jack

The government could always nationlise farmland and run the farms themselves. A bit like Stalin did in the USSR which led to a 50% decrease in food production leading to a famine and millions starving. An estimated 7 to 9 million people in the USSR died of starvation.

If history tells us anything it is not to repeat the mistakes of the past .


What's that got to do with IH tax?
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Farmers on 11:24 - Dec 6 with 931 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Farmers on 10:43 - Dec 6 by controversial_jack

What's that got to do with IH tax?


Try joining the dots.

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Farmers on 12:49 - Dec 6 with 892 viewsBoundy

Farmers on 11:24 - Dec 6 by JACKMANANDBOY

Try joining the dots.


or try critical thinking, a buzz words oft recently used .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Farmers on 14:35 - Dec 6 with 860 viewscontroversial_jack

Farmers on 11:24 - Dec 6 by JACKMANANDBOY

Try joining the dots.


Still nothing to do with iH tax in the Uk
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Farmers on 16:38 - Dec 6 with 816 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Farmers on 14:35 - Dec 6 by controversial_jack

Still nothing to do with iH tax in the Uk


Nothing but your attack on hard working farmers had nothing to do with IH tax either.

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Farmers on 13:41 - Dec 7 with 718 viewscontroversial_jack

Farmers on 16:38 - Dec 6 by felixstowe_jack

Nothing but your attack on hard working farmers had nothing to do with IH tax either.


Lot's of other hard working ppl will have to pay IH tax at a much higher rate and threshold than farmers. No sympathy at all!
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Farmers on 15:33 - Dec 7 with 686 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Farmers on 13:41 - Dec 7 by controversial_jack

Lot's of other hard working ppl will have to pay IH tax at a much higher rate and threshold than farmers. No sympathy at all!


You have no sympathy with any one who does not believe that communism is the solution to all the Worlds problems.

Without farmers you would starve.

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Farmers on 15:05 - Dec 8 with 614 viewscontroversial_jack

Without Electricians and power workers you would freeze, yet they have to pay double the ih taxes that farmers pay, but you don't hear them whinging. As a landlord my kids will have to pay twice the IH tax or even sell up to pay just like these farmers. but they don't get the allowances or subsidies these farmers do. No sympathy
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Farmers on 08:29 - Dec 9 with 523 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Farmers on 15:05 - Dec 8 by controversial_jack

Without Electricians and power workers you would freeze, yet they have to pay double the ih taxes that farmers pay, but you don't hear them whinging. As a landlord my kids will have to pay twice the IH tax or even sell up to pay just like these farmers. but they don't get the allowances or subsidies these farmers do. No sympathy
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Fortunately our electricians and power workers get very good wages and decent pensions unlike our farmers who often work 80 hours a week at less than minimum wage and no company pension.

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Farmers on 10:55 - Dec 9 with 458 viewscontroversial_jack

Farmers on 08:29 - Dec 9 by felixstowe_jack

Fortunately our electricians and power workers get very good wages and decent pensions unlike our farmers who often work 80 hours a week at less than minimum wage and no company pension.


Nonsense, farmers get huge subsidies from the taxpayer.They don't work 80 hours a week either. I have a mate who is a sheep farmer and he doesn't do anything like that. yes, he has busy periods of the year, but not right now.

Farmers are important of course they are, but no more than many other utilities or workers , yet they whinge because they have to pay IH tax at a higher threshold and lower rate than the rest of the hard worked.As a landlord, my kids will have to pay more than these whingers and may have to sell up some property and evict the tenants - hopefully not.See how it works? No sympathy!
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Farmers on 11:16 - Dec 9 with 454 viewsWhiterockin

Farmers on 10:55 - Dec 9 by controversial_jack

Nonsense, farmers get huge subsidies from the taxpayer.They don't work 80 hours a week either. I have a mate who is a sheep farmer and he doesn't do anything like that. yes, he has busy periods of the year, but not right now.

Farmers are important of course they are, but no more than many other utilities or workers , yet they whinge because they have to pay IH tax at a higher threshold and lower rate than the rest of the hard worked.As a landlord, my kids will have to pay more than these whingers and may have to sell up some property and evict the tenants - hopefully not.See how it works? No sympathy!


With the right planning your children won't have to pay inheritance tax until it hits £1M, ask your accountant and solicitor. Then again if your assets are over £1M they will pretty much have to pay like the farmers.
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Farmers on 12:22 - Dec 9 with 410 viewscontroversial_jack

Farmers on 11:16 - Dec 9 by Whiterockin

With the right planning your children won't have to pay inheritance tax until it hits £1M, ask your accountant and solicitor. Then again if your assets are over £1M they will pretty much have to pay like the farmers.


They will pay less by half, but I will have to seek advice
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Farmers on 09:14 - Dec 10 with 292 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Farmers on 10:55 - Dec 9 by controversial_jack

Nonsense, farmers get huge subsidies from the taxpayer.They don't work 80 hours a week either. I have a mate who is a sheep farmer and he doesn't do anything like that. yes, he has busy periods of the year, but not right now.

Farmers are important of course they are, but no more than many other utilities or workers , yet they whinge because they have to pay IH tax at a higher threshold and lower rate than the rest of the hard worked.As a landlord, my kids will have to pay more than these whingers and may have to sell up some property and evict the tenants - hopefully not.See how it works? No sympathy!


The average farmer works 65 hours a week according to government statistics. So it is likely some do work 89 hours especially live stock farmers who tend there animals 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year.

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Farmers on 09:21 - Dec 10 with 283 viewscontroversial_jack

Farmers on 09:14 - Dec 10 by felixstowe_jack

The average farmer works 65 hours a week according to government statistics. So it is likely some do work 89 hours especially live stock farmers who tend there animals 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year.


They include domestic tasks in that working time, which most of us do too. My mate doesn't do anything like that and he's a sheep farmer. He has another sideline too
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Farmers on 09:30 - Dec 10 with 276 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Farmers on 09:21 - Dec 10 by controversial_jack

They include domestic tasks in that working time, which most of us do too. My mate doesn't do anything like that and he's a sheep farmer. He has another sideline too


He sounds like a part time farmer.

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Farmers on 09:34 - Dec 10 with 271 viewscontroversial_jack

Farmers on 09:30 - Dec 10 by felixstowe_jack

He sounds like a part time farmer.


He does have a big flock of sheep, but as he said, there's not much to do this time of year. He said if it wasn't for the big subsidies he get's it wouldn't be worthwhile. I think he said , he gets about £2 per kg for lambs. Have a look to see what it costs in supermarkets. These are the real villans not farmers or the govt or IH tax
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Farmers on 10:15 - Dec 10 with 261 viewsBoundy

Farmers on 10:55 - Dec 9 by controversial_jack

Nonsense, farmers get huge subsidies from the taxpayer.They don't work 80 hours a week either. I have a mate who is a sheep farmer and he doesn't do anything like that. yes, he has busy periods of the year, but not right now.

Farmers are important of course they are, but no more than many other utilities or workers , yet they whinge because they have to pay IH tax at a higher threshold and lower rate than the rest of the hard worked.As a landlord, my kids will have to pay more than these whingers and may have to sell up some property and evict the tenants - hopefully not.See how it works? No sympathy!


You have a mate You've singled out one individual and yet its proven that many farms are run at a loss, with many farmers having to have second jobs to survive. you like too many believe that being farmer is the equivalent of printing money, I can assure its not,

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Farmers on 10:25 - Dec 10 with 236 viewsScotia

Farmers on 09:34 - Dec 10 by controversial_jack

He does have a big flock of sheep, but as he said, there's not much to do this time of year. He said if it wasn't for the big subsidies he get's it wouldn't be worthwhile. I think he said , he gets about £2 per kg for lambs. Have a look to see what it costs in supermarkets. These are the real villans not farmers or the govt or IH tax


It's not just the supermarkets. Their customers have to put their hands up too.
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