| Manchester Airport Police attack 10:00 - Nov 17 with 4502 views | raynor94 |
After 4 months of CPS inactivity Nigel Farage is mounting a private prosecution on the brothers.
Good on him! Justice must be served on these two |  |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 08:49 - Nov 18 with 1100 views | AnotherJohn |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 22:35 - Nov 17 by KeithHaynes |
As you know mate he can’t pursue a private prosecution until a criminal route is exhausted 👍 |
Probably right in practice, but not a rule set in stone.
As I understand things, there is a right to bring private prosecutions set out in section 6(1) of the Prosecution of Offences Act (POA) 1985, but this is subject to certain limitations, and, for example, may in some cases require the permission of the DPP.
Otherwise there is a procedure governed by Part 7 of the Criminal Procedure Rules 2010, SI 2010/60 where a party seeking to bring a private prosecution must lay information before a magistrate, who then goes through the judicial exercise of deciding whether or not a summons or warrant ought to be issued.
To quote a HoC briefing paper summarising some key principles:
• where the CPS has already brought and discontinued a prosecution arising from the
same events, the magistrate should not require “special circumstances” before agreeing
to the issue of the warrant or summons but should instead proceed by ascertaining the
minimum facts outlined above [note: i.e. that the allegation relates to an offence known to the law, is within time limits, etc];
• where the CPS has already brought a prosecution that is still proceeding
the magistrate should (in the absence of special circumstances) be slow to issue a summons at the behest of a private prosecutor against a defendant who is already subject to those CPS proceedings.15
15. R (on the application of Charlson) v Guildford Magistrates’ Court and the South Western Magistrates’ Court and Walsh (interested party) [2007] 3 All ER 163
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN05281/SN05281.pdf
So my take is that it wouldn't be a good idea to try to bring a private prosecution at this stage, but if challenged Farage would probably argue it is possible. If I am mistaken then perhaps a forum expert who actually works in this field can correct me. |  | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 09:05 - Nov 18 with 1083 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 08:18 - Nov 18 by Kilkennyjack |
Last election Reform were not even a party.
The ‘members’ had no say on policy.
Farage and Tice decide everything.
This is not how we do politics in the UK. |
Seems like how we do politics in Wales with Welsh Labour. [Post edited 18 Nov 9:07]
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 09:38 - Nov 18 with 1054 views | mangohilljack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 16:11 - Nov 17 by majorraglan |
The only thing he’s going is pursuing his own agenda. The police officers were the victims in all this and the case shouldn’t turn in to a political circus. |
If it take a circus to get this pond life charged and sentenced then bring it on. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:57 - Nov 18 with 1013 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 22:36 - Nov 17 by KeithHaynes |
Swansea have gone for promotion on 120 occasions since their inception.
Henry Cooper, Frank Bruno 😉
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Think is Keith these are complex global problems and Farage sells simplistic answers that do not work in reality. He told us Brexit would sort migration but its made it worse.
His solution, vote for me again.
Its all other peoples fault.
Meanwhile people like me say… we told you Brexit would not stop migrants and we were correct.
Our grand-fathers worked underground, Farage would have been on the side of the pit owners.
Thats all people in Wales need to understand.
Farage knows little of Wales and cares even less.
Posh boy uber English nationalist who probably does not even support the beloved Swans …. [Post edited 18 Nov 10:58]
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:59 - Nov 18 with 1004 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 09:05 - Nov 18 by Whiterockin |
Seems like how we do politics in Wales with Welsh Labour. [Post edited 18 Nov 9:07]
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No its very different.
Labour members can suggest policies and they get voted on.
Different to Saint Nigel just telling us how it is. | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 12:35 - Nov 18 with 960 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:59 - Nov 18 by Kilkennyjack |
No its very different.
Labour members can suggest policies and they get voted on.
Different to Saint Nigel just telling us how it is. |
I would say your track record on British politics is not the best. How is Scottish independence going and we will quickly follow. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 13:19 - Nov 18 with 918 views | controversial_jack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:59 - Nov 18 by Kilkennyjack |
No its very different.
Labour members can suggest policies and they get voted on.
Different to Saint Nigel just telling us how it is. |
Correct, the members have no say. It's not a democratic party at all | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 14:01 - Nov 18 with 880 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 12:35 - Nov 18 by Whiterockin |
I would say your track record on British politics is not the best. How is Scottish independence going and we will quickly follow. |
Is that right ?
Hows disgraced former PM Boris Johnson getting on these days as a common hack ?
Hows former MP Mogg doing ?
Anyone seen Michael Gove, former MP.
Still no charges for Comrade Nicola then ?
Any idea why ?
Sinn Fein leader in the north of Ireland. Very successful.
Progressive Labour in both the Senedd and Westminster. Moving to alignment with EU.
Its the will of the people see ……👍 | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 15:18 - Nov 18 with 822 views | Flashberryjack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 14:01 - Nov 18 by Kilkennyjack |
Is that right ?
Hows disgraced former PM Boris Johnson getting on these days as a common hack ?
Hows former MP Mogg doing ?
Anyone seen Michael Gove, former MP.
Still no charges for Comrade Nicola then ?
Any idea why ?
Sinn Fein leader in the north of Ireland. Very successful.
Progressive Labour in both the Senedd and Westminster. Moving to alignment with EU.
Its the will of the people see ……👍 |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 18:27 - Nov 18 with 765 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 14:33 - Nov 17 by Whiterockin |
As I said he gets things done. |
With Brexit he has created massive problems for UK exporters. |  |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 19:45 - Nov 18 with 731 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 18:27 - Nov 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
With Brexit he has created massive problems for UK exporters. |
Whether you like it or not it was a democratic vote. The result may not have been what you wanted but surely the public have the right to choose. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 19:54 - Nov 18 with 707 views | majorraglan |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 19:45 - Nov 18 by Whiterockin |
Whether you like it or not it was a democratic vote. The result may not have been what you wanted but surely the public have the right to choose. |
100% agree with you about it being the will of the people and the right to choose, but that doesn’t mean the statement about making it more difficult for exporters was wrong.
The majority of the people who cast their vote voted to leave and that’s what’s happened, it’s democracy in action. It’s the same as the last GE…….Labour in, Conservatives out - people have to accept it. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 20:05 - Nov 18 with 694 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 19:54 - Nov 18 by majorraglan |
100% agree with you about it being the will of the people and the right to choose, but that doesn’t mean the statement about making it more difficult for exporters was wrong.
The majority of the people who cast their vote voted to leave and that’s what’s happened, it’s democracy in action. It’s the same as the last GE…….Labour in, Conservatives out - people have to accept it. |
Without a shadow of a doubt, the difference is one can be reversed in a couple of years and one can't. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 20:56 - Nov 18 with 627 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 20:05 - Nov 18 by Whiterockin |
Without a shadow of a doubt, the difference is one can be reversed in a couple of years and one can't. |
Its inevitable we will go back. Once its 10 years then they young will want it as Brexit fails and chokes growth, opportunities and freedoms. | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 20:58 - Nov 18 with 620 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 20:56 - Nov 18 by Kilkennyjack |
Its inevitable we will go back. Once its 10 years then they young will want it as Brexit fails and chokes growth, opportunities and freedoms. |
Didn't Starmer say no. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:00 - Nov 18 with 609 views | Kilkennyjack |
Farage pointing to the falling pound on the night of Brexit.
He seems pretty happy with life, i wonder why …? | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:03 - Nov 18 with 597 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 20:58 - Nov 18 by Whiterockin |
Didn't Starmer say no. |
Correct but its a tactical no.
All the lack of economic growth conversations are aimed at convincing people that we need to rejoin.
He is just not saying the rejoin bit openly yet ….
10 years done and we will move back. | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:12 - Nov 18 with 590 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:03 - Nov 18 by Kilkennyjack |
Correct but its a tactical no.
All the lack of economic growth conversations are aimed at convincing people that we need to rejoin.
He is just not saying the rejoin bit openly yet ….
10 years done and we will move back. |
It will just be which happens first, Brexit reversed or devolution reversed. [Post edited 18 Nov 21:18]
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:37 - Nov 18 with 541 views | majorraglan |
None of us know what the future holds, but I reckon if growth and prosperity increase we’ll stay out of the EU. If it doesn’t and our standard of living falls below our European rivals I wouldn’t bet against us being back in the E.U. in 15 years. It’s all academic for now. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:40 - Nov 18 with 536 views | Flashberryjack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 20:58 - Nov 18 by Whiterockin |
Didn't Starmer say no. |
And he's a man of his word. | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:46 - Nov 18 with 516 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:40 - Nov 18 by Flashberryjack |
And he's a man of his word. |
Apparently his word is tactical. It means he can change it whenever he likes. We used to call it lying. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 07:29 - Nov 19 with 359 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:46 - Nov 18 by Whiterockin |
Apparently his word is tactical. It means he can change it whenever he likes. We used to call it lying. |
He is also lying in saying we can make Brexit work.
It can never work cos its a dumbass idea.
Starmer should tell the truth.
So should others.
I am not defending him, i am just telling you what his real game is. | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 09:13 - Nov 19 with 331 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 07:29 - Nov 19 by Kilkennyjack |
He is also lying in saying we can make Brexit work.
It can never work cos its a dumbass idea.
Starmer should tell the truth.
So should others.
I am not defending him, i am just telling you what his real game is. |
So why is he saying we can make Brexit it work. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 09:31 - Nov 19 with 314 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 07:29 - Nov 19 by Kilkennyjack |
He is also lying in saying we can make Brexit work.
It can never work cos its a dumbass idea.
Starmer should tell the truth.
So should others.
I am not defending him, i am just telling you what his real game is. |
The same can be said of the undemocratic EU. It is in a mess and a huge waste of money trying to impose its will on democratic countries.
The people of Wales and the UK voted to leave.
Nothing stopping the EU from negotiating a sensible trade deal with the UK. They have trade deals with plenty of non UK countries. | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 09:57 - Nov 19 with 306 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 09:31 - Nov 19 by felixstowe_jack |
The same can be said of the undemocratic EU. It is in a mess and a huge waste of money trying to impose its will on democratic countries.
The people of Wales and the UK voted to leave.
Nothing stopping the EU from negotiating a sensible trade deal with the UK. They have trade deals with plenty of non UK countries. |
Why is Kilkennyjack saying that Starmer was not telling the truth on his Brexit statement "we can make Brexit work" unless it was to appease the British public and keep them onside. Why would you also do that unless you knew it was still what the majority of British voters wanted and you didn't want to alienate the majority of voters. I think Kilkennyjack is getting himself tied in knots again. | | | |
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