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Israel/Hamas ceasefire 18:08 - May 6 with 33940 viewsjohnlangy

Just saw this headline 'Hamas announces it has accepted a ceasefire proposal to halt war with Israel'.

True ?
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 13:05 - Jun 1 with 747 viewsjackrmee

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 12:08 - Jun 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Hamas teach the children of Gaza how to identify a Jew and the most efficient way to stab them to death. They also operate camps to teach children how to use weaponry and be child soldiers and the targets they shoot at are often depictions of Jewish people. It may not be in their charter but it’s shown in their actions day in day out for decades now.

It’s 17 years since Hamas seized power, it’s conceivable that everyone under the age of 30 would have had some influence from this “education system” there. It’s no wonder they found so many willing volunteers to break into Israel and shoot them all in cold blood. They have been brought up to hate.


Any evidence of that?

Here’s a video of Jewish kids getting taught those things you state.



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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 13:27 - Jun 1 with 714 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 12:25 - Jun 1 by controversial_jack

Have you been reading the Sun?


I am a voracious reader of several publications, I am always looking to broaden my mind and learn about the world but alas the sun hasn’t been on my list since they got rid of the boobs on page 3.

But here are a few quotes from top Hamas officials from the last year or so. I’d love to hear your opinion on them and your reasoning for siding with these monsters:


Hamas official, Hamad Al-Regeb in an April 2023 sermon: He prayed for “annihilation” and “paralysis” of the Jews whom he described as filthy animals: “[Allah] transformed them into filthy, ugly animals like apes and pigs because of the injustice and evil they had brought about.” Al-Regeb also prayed for the ability to “get to the necks of the Jews.”

Hamas Political Bureau Chairman Saleh Al-Arouri in an August 2023 interview: He expressed Hamas’ desire for “total war” with Israel: “Therefore, we are convinced that if a total conflict begins, the airspace and seaports of this entity will be shut down, and they will not be able to live without electricity, water, and communications.”


Hamas senior leader Khaled Mashal stated on October 19, 2023 that he views the current loss of civilian life in Gaza – brought about by Hamas' strategy of using human shields – as essential: “No nation is liberated without sacrifices... In all wars, there are some civilian victims. We are not responsible for them.”


Hamas senior leader Ismail Haniyeh, commenting on the loss of civilian life in Gaza on October 26, 2023: “The blood of the women, children and elderly […] we are the ones who need this blood, so it awakens within us the revolutionary spirit.”


senior Hamas official Khalil al-Hayya explained on November 8, 2023, “Hamas’s goal is not to run Gaza and to bring it water and electricity and such.” He confirmed that Hamas’s October 7 massacres of Jews had nothing to do with “improv[ing] the situation in Gaza.”

on November 8, 2023, senior Hamas official Ghazi Hamad proclaimed that Hamas is “proud to sacrifice” Palestinians in its quest to exterminate the Jews in Israel because “[w]e are called a nation of martyrs.” Hamas views each of the more than 2 million Palestinian civilians in Gaza—approximately 1 million of whom are children—as potential human sacrifices in its enduring journey to annihilate Israel.



I could easily go on and on and on. These are not nice people. They have to be removed from the world.

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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 15:10 - Jun 1 with 679 viewscontroversial_jack

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 13:27 - Jun 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

I am a voracious reader of several publications, I am always looking to broaden my mind and learn about the world but alas the sun hasn’t been on my list since they got rid of the boobs on page 3.

But here are a few quotes from top Hamas officials from the last year or so. I’d love to hear your opinion on them and your reasoning for siding with these monsters:


Hamas official, Hamad Al-Regeb in an April 2023 sermon: He prayed for “annihilation” and “paralysis” of the Jews whom he described as filthy animals: “[Allah] transformed them into filthy, ugly animals like apes and pigs because of the injustice and evil they had brought about.” Al-Regeb also prayed for the ability to “get to the necks of the Jews.”

Hamas Political Bureau Chairman Saleh Al-Arouri in an August 2023 interview: He expressed Hamas’ desire for “total war” with Israel: “Therefore, we are convinced that if a total conflict begins, the airspace and seaports of this entity will be shut down, and they will not be able to live without electricity, water, and communications.”


Hamas senior leader Khaled Mashal stated on October 19, 2023 that he views the current loss of civilian life in Gaza – brought about by Hamas' strategy of using human shields – as essential: “No nation is liberated without sacrifices... In all wars, there are some civilian victims. We are not responsible for them.”


Hamas senior leader Ismail Haniyeh, commenting on the loss of civilian life in Gaza on October 26, 2023: “The blood of the women, children and elderly […] we are the ones who need this blood, so it awakens within us the revolutionary spirit.”


senior Hamas official Khalil al-Hayya explained on November 8, 2023, “Hamas’s goal is not to run Gaza and to bring it water and electricity and such.” He confirmed that Hamas’s October 7 massacres of Jews had nothing to do with “improv[ing] the situation in Gaza.”

on November 8, 2023, senior Hamas official Ghazi Hamad proclaimed that Hamas is “proud to sacrifice” Palestinians in its quest to exterminate the Jews in Israel because “[w]e are called a nation of martyrs.” Hamas views each of the more than 2 million Palestinian civilians in Gaza—approximately 1 million of whom are children—as potential human sacrifices in its enduring journey to annihilate Israel.



I could easily go on and on and on. These are not nice people. They have to be removed from the world.


It's not in their latest charter
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 15:36 - Jun 1 with 670 viewsKeithHaynes

This went unreported three days ago.


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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 15:56 - Jun 1 with 656 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 15:10 - Jun 1 by controversial_jack

It's not in their latest charter


That’s alright then. If it’s not in their charter then they can’t possibly be doing and saying all these hideously evil things.

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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 16:14 - Jun 1 with 649 viewsunion_jack

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 15:56 - Jun 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

That’s alright then. If it’s not in their charter then they can’t possibly be doing and saying all these hideously evil things.


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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 16:16 - Jun 1 with 648 viewsonehunglow

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 15:56 - Jun 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

That’s alright then. If it’s not in their charter then they can’t possibly be doing and saying all these hideously evil things.


Hamasss has a charter?

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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 16:33 - Jun 1 with 637 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 16:16 - Jun 1 by onehunglow

Hamasss has a charter?


Yes I have a copy of it here:

“We, the lovely and cuddly cheeky chappies of Hamas absolutely promise to never to be the slightest bit naughty. We will spread joy and happiness throughout the world especially to our best friends those magnificent Israelis who we just want to smother with hugs and kisses.”

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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 17:28 - Jun 1 with 600 viewscontroversial_jack

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 16:16 - Jun 1 by onehunglow

Hamasss has a charter?


Of course, they are a legit govt
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 17:34 - Jun 1 with 599 viewscontroversial_jack

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 16:33 - Jun 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Yes I have a copy of it here:

“We, the lovely and cuddly cheeky chappies of Hamas absolutely promise to never to be the slightest bit naughty. We will spread joy and happiness throughout the world especially to our best friends those magnificent Israelis who we just want to smother with hugs and kisses.”


Just thought i'd drop this in for the supporters of the genocidal psychopaths

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1148031
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 18:22 - Jun 1 with 579 viewsSullutaCreturned

When you look at what they tell their own people on Hamas's TV stations, in their mosques, in their schools, they are calling on a daily basis to destroy Israel.

Now we have an Isreli leader who is acting just as deranged as Hamas. There is no good ending to this, no happy ending.

Believeing that Hamas have somehow changed when they still hide hostages and let their own people, their own children be murdered by revenge seeking Israeli's just puts both groups in the same pit of despair.

In its new charter Hamas restates the Palestinians' claim to all the land from the River Jordan in the East to the Mediterranean Sea in the West.
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 19:27 - Jun 1 with 548 viewscontroversial_jack

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 18:22 - Jun 1 by SullutaCreturned

When you look at what they tell their own people on Hamas's TV stations, in their mosques, in their schools, they are calling on a daily basis to destroy Israel.

Now we have an Isreli leader who is acting just as deranged as Hamas. There is no good ending to this, no happy ending.

Believeing that Hamas have somehow changed when they still hide hostages and let their own people, their own children be murdered by revenge seeking Israeli's just puts both groups in the same pit of despair.

In its new charter Hamas restates the Palestinians' claim to all the land from the River Jordan in the East to the Mediterranean Sea in the West.


Why shouldn't it have access to the land from the river to the sea
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 19:27 - Jun 1 with 551 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 18:22 - Jun 1 by SullutaCreturned

When you look at what they tell their own people on Hamas's TV stations, in their mosques, in their schools, they are calling on a daily basis to destroy Israel.

Now we have an Isreli leader who is acting just as deranged as Hamas. There is no good ending to this, no happy ending.

Believeing that Hamas have somehow changed when they still hide hostages and let their own people, their own children be murdered by revenge seeking Israeli's just puts both groups in the same pit of despair.

In its new charter Hamas restates the Palestinians' claim to all the land from the River Jordan in the East to the Mediterranean Sea in the West.


Egypt and Jordan their near neighbours want nothing to do with them, they have their own issues with Islamic extremists and both countries are trying to develop.

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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 19:32 - Jun 1 with 549 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 19:27 - Jun 1 by controversial_jack

Why shouldn't it have access to the land from the river to the sea


It’s not in Israel’s charter.

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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 20:50 - Jun 1 with 527 viewsSullutaCreturned

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 19:32 - Jun 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

It’s not in Israel’s charter.


I don't answer t anymore because it's just out for bites. Put another way, if he's seriouswith that comment then he's saying why not wipe israel out entirely, we'd call that by a nasty word!
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 22:37 - Jun 1 with 497 viewscontroversial_jack

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 19:27 - Jun 1 by JACKMANANDBOY

Egypt and Jordan their near neighbours want nothing to do with them, they have their own issues with Islamic extremists and both countries are trying to develop.


Yes, Gaza is a massive Ghetto like Warsaw and Krakow were during ww2
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 03:38 - Jun 2 with 475 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 22:37 - Jun 1 by controversial_jack

Yes, Gaza is a massive Ghetto like Warsaw and Krakow were during ww2


A quick bit of research would reveal that Gaza had luxury car dealerships and 5 star hotels before October the 7th.

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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 10:00 - Jun 2 with 438 viewscontroversial_jack

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 03:38 - Jun 2 by JACKMANANDBOY

A quick bit of research would reveal that Gaza had luxury car dealerships and 5 star hotels before October the 7th.


And?
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 10:16 - Jun 2 with 425 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 10:00 - Jun 2 by controversial_jack

And?


Glad you agree.

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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 10:25 - Jun 2 with 413 viewscontroversial_jack

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 10:16 - Jun 2 by JACKMANANDBOY

Glad you agree.


I don't!' Warsaw and Krakow had some very nice hotels too.

Hundreds of thousands of ppl with nowhere to hide, bombings, occupation troops, ppl starving, limited water, no hospitals, no schools, mass deportations - admittedly not on railway trucks, does this ring any bells with you? Probably not!
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 10:32 - Jun 2 with 406 viewsonehunglow

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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 10:47 - Jun 2 with 401 viewssons_of_omri

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 12:02 - Jun 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

If Hamas surrendered and released the hostages then yes this specific conflict would certainly end. It wouldn’t end the tension and animosity long term but the fighting would stop.


It looks like they offered to release the hostages to stop the Israeli invasion into Gaza. Israel thought “hostages back? No, let’s invade because we want revenge and we can claim us killing our own people is some kind of acceptable collateral damage “.

Kinda blows your argument and that of many others out of the water . Dodgy source? Will the Times of Israel suffice?


https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-hostage-deal-charges

Should be end of thread but seeing how some post on here I doubt that.
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 10:48 - Jun 2 with 401 viewssons_of_omri

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 09:12 - May 30 by onehunglow

Or maybe he has other things to do in his life
We are free to post when we like and to answer specific posts or not.
You’ve nailed your colours to the mast and that’s fair enough .
Others see things differently


Things in life to do? Well it’s never stopped you, Joesus or any of the pro Israel lobby.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-hostage-deal-charges
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 10:50 - Jun 2 with 401 viewssons_of_omri

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 11:55 - May 31 by union_jack

I’m really at a loss as to the views expressed here by some supporting Hamas. Let’s make no mistake about this, Hamas is an Islamic terrorist organisation who would be happy to see for starters Israel erased from the face of the earth and indeed the rest of the western world too.

Some on here talk about genocide on behalf of Israel. Again, these people have been persecuted over the centuries and during WW2 especially. Maybe, just maybe they’re a bit fed up with all this and are now retaliating in kind and with interest.

Let’s not conflate what Israel are doing with what Hamas did on 7/10. The unfortunate thing about wars and conflicts is that there will always be tragic collateral damage including very sadly, human life. October 7th was NOT collateral damage, it was a murderous terrorist attack.

Some people need to check themselves on here and elsewhere and see where the real evil lies!


I don’t support Hamas. But I’m absolutely dead against Israel because of this

https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-hostage-deal-charges


So you realise what implications this report has regarding the whole Israeli action in Gaza?
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 10:53 - Jun 2 with 400 viewssons_of_omri

Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 19:18 - May 31 by SullutaCreturned

That's exactly the point of my post. What israel is doing now is wrong but the trigger for this was a terrorist attack and so also wrong.

I cannot in any way, shape or form ustify what Hamas did or what Netanyahu is doing now.

Any fair minded, decent person would want the killng (maybe I should just call it murdering?) to stop, for both sides to stop.


It was wrong - the Islamic Jihad raid (among other militants) was dreadful.

This however is far far worse. Mossad’s moto is “to wage war by means of deception”. You were deceived on Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. Now this :-


https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-hostage-deal-charges
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