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MK Dons in 2007? And a game against someone like Cambridge on a Tuesday night around 2002?
Surely the Doncaster game about 5 years ago when we were 0-1 down going into added time. Steve Davies grabbed the winner and think it might've been Mark Kitching who scored first with a longish range effort
We seem to be performing for the whole of the game, up to 95 plus minutes, compared to plenty of times in the last few seasons when we only lasted about 80 mins and conceded lots of late goals and points. I don't know the real facts behind this observation, however I am convinced that we are lasting games much better, whether down to having fitter players, better training or a combination of both I don't know.
We seem to be performing for the whole of the game, up to 95 plus minutes, compared to plenty of times in the last few seasons when we only lasted about 80 mins and conceded lots of late goals and points. I don't know the real facts behind this observation, however I am convinced that we are lasting games much better, whether down to having fitter players, better training or a combination of both I don't know.
loads of factors...big ones i think are team spirit and confidence playing in a lower league.
Really encouraging though, I was thinking the two long journeys in a week might tire us, particularly towards the end. But yes we have confidence that we know we generally have more quality than the opposition, which makes a difference, added to a big desire to win. Noticeable that after a last minute equaliser away from home we just ran back rather than celebrate and put the ball on the centre spot. And that was before the sending off.
We seem to be performing for the whole of the game, up to 95 plus minutes, compared to plenty of times in the last few seasons when we only lasted about 80 mins and conceded lots of late goals and points. I don't know the real facts behind this observation, however I am convinced that we are lasting games much better, whether down to having fitter players, better training or a combination of both I don't know.
I was about to comment about the fitness levels of the team seem to be improving
We seem to be performing for the whole of the game, up to 95 plus minutes, compared to plenty of times in the last few seasons when we only lasted about 80 mins and conceded lots of late goals and points. I don't know the real facts behind this observation, however I am convinced that we are lasting games much better, whether down to having fitter players, better training or a combination of both I don't know.
I have wondered if we are pacing ourselves a bit in the first half knowing that there is now often 10 minutes of extra time in the second half. whilst our opponents are doing more running than usual as we keep moving the ball and forcing them to be constantly on the move? You have to expect 100 - 105 minutes of game time these days and those extra minutes are telling if you have been doing all the running. if your passing is tight and you are finding your own players, especially with two wide men, the opponents don't have much option but to keep moving and I bet not many are set up to cope with that sort of pressure.
Surely the Doncaster game about 5 years ago when we were 0-1 down going into added time. Steve Davies grabbed the winner and think it might've been Mark Kitching who scored first with a longish range effort
Oh yes. Classic example of a Darren Ferguson team going one up and spending the rest of the game timewasting, as they do. All of them. Only for him to moan about the amount of time added when his solitary plan backfires. Heh.
Surely the Doncaster game about 5 years ago when we were 0-1 down going into added time. Steve Davies grabbed the winner and think it might've been Mark Kitching who scored first with a longish range effort
Correct, that was the previous time we had scored twice so late to overturn a deficit to win the game before today.
Our last win with two injury time goals was against Oldham in the Checkatrade Trophy in December 2018, although on that occasion the score was 0-0 going into "TIME ALLOWED".
We also picked-up a 2-2 draw at Chesterfield in January 2014 with two injury time goals after being 2-0 down.
And, as already mentioned, before all those games came the famous 3-2 win over MK Dons in September 2007 and the 4-3 v Cambridge in September 2002, a match in which Dale trailed 3-1 with an hour played.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
The MK Dons game, from your archives, TVOS. I remember well the linesman in front of the MK fans was obsessive about denying Dale attacks as offside 2nd half, with no element of reason in his decisions. When our 2nd went in (which, as with other attacks, was onside) I was stunned he allowed it. A truly terrible liner. Never mind, we won
We seem to be performing for the whole of the game, up to 95 plus minutes, compared to plenty of times in the last few seasons when we only lasted about 80 mins and conceded lots of late goals and points. I don't know the real facts behind this observation, however I am convinced that we are lasting games much better, whether down to having fitter players, better training or a combination of both I don't know.
You can't read very much into pre-season friendlies but first game at Radcliffe I thought it was already very evident that the fitness levels had gone up a notch, that's a major improvement. The move to Platt Lane must also have helped hugely...actually training on full size pitches, something that wasn't available at the cricket club i believe. How would we have practiced the long ball from the goalkeeper up to Sinclair had we not moved to Platt Lane? That particular tactic has worked a treat all season and is just one example.
The MK Dons game, from your archives, TVOS. I remember well the linesman in front of the MK fans was obsessive about denying Dale attacks as offside 2nd half, with no element of reason in his decisions. When our 2nd went in (which, as with other attacks, was onside) I was stunned he allowed it. A truly terrible liner. Never mind, we won
One of our best come backs ever. Paul Ince was their manager I think and he was apoplectic. Our fans were very noisy that day and pushed for the winner
For those of us of a certain vintage does anyone else remember a home game against Reading in 1970 (I think). Dale were losing 2-0 but came back to win 3-2 with the winner coming late on from Derek Ryder of all people.
For those of us of a certain vintage does anyone else remember a home game against Reading in 1970 (I think). Dale were losing 2-0 but came back to win 3-2 with the winner coming late on from Derek Ryder of all people.
Yes. I was there. Probably my first full season . We seemed to play no fear football then, but probably my mind playing tricks.
We looked the slicker passing team in the first-half, but Dorking pressed hard and, in the main, well enough to force us into finding a pivot rather than a forward pass. When we did get through their lines, it came apart in the final third. It felt like it was going to be one of those games where we either totally opened them up second half, or conceded from a lapse in concentration.
Second half, our hosts kept at their task and took advantage of some paper-thin defending to take the lead.
One thing on Mitchell, and I donât know if seeing in person makes it more obvious, but I thought he did tremendously well to hold the ball up on that pitch and invite runners either side of him. Yes, he should have equalised but he actually did alright in general. The pitch was shocking. The black rubber spraying everywhere was ridiculous and even potentially dangerous.
Anyway, we toiled for most of the second half and seemed bereft of ideas in the final third. It was as if we were afraid to have a shot from open play (Claytonâs direct free-kick produced a good save from âHarrisoooonâ, for example, and showed we could test them from range).
It was frustrating when put in plain terms, as we were the full-time outfit and we were being outmanoeuvred on the chessboard by a part-time operator.
Still, the best thing about football is that it transcends all that nonsense above and can exist solely in the emotive. By sticking to their task, despite the growing unease, our players grabbed two late, decisive goals, sending the fans home delirious. Thatâs all that will ultimately be remembered of âDorking Awayâ and all that will subsequently matter.
On that note, the euphoria of the win reminds you what a good job Jim McNulty has done. Heâs stopped the rot and toxicity of last season with a basement budget. Donât forget, unless anyone wants to give us a player for free, this is the squad we have to take us through to the seasonâs end.
Suspensions and injuries are going to force things to a head at some point and frustration will grow from us supporters. It wonât be fair if McNulty takes the brunt of that.
For those of us of a certain vintage does anyone else remember a home game against Reading in 1970 (I think). Dale were losing 2-0 but came back to win 3-2 with the winner coming late on from Derek Ryder of all people.
The winner was in the 64th minute, so Reading still had almost half-an-hour to find a leveller.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
For those of us of a certain vintage does anyone else remember a home game against Reading in 1970 (I think). Dale were losing 2-0 but came back to win 3-2 with the winner coming late on from Derek Ryder of all people.
I recall Ryder scoring at the Sandy Lane end, think the only time he scored for us and it was a real surprise since he rarely ventured that far upfield. Don't recall it being seen as a turnover type game, but could be wrong
Interesting to hear Marc White refers to an aftermatch conversation with Jimmy MC as to how slow their pitch is and the advantages it gives them. As Chris Fitz pointed out, considering the state of the pitch we handled it fairly well. Marc White has quite vocally as is his way ,criticized his and other artificial pitches recently. Attributing the number of serious injuries he believes they have caused in his squad. I seriously think if we hadn't had the artificial pitches to train on at Platt Lane this season we wouldn't have got a couple of results we have on our travels, and also we have possibly avoided a number of injuries had we not been used to such surfaces.
I recall Ryder scoring at the Sandy Lane end, think the only time he scored for us and it was a real surprise since he rarely ventured that far upfield. Don't recall it being seen as a turnover type game, but could be wrong
Edit: just read TVOS comment
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Yes it was part of that long winning run (10 games?) that took us to the top of the table. Went 2-0 down and then turned on the tap. Dont remember the other goals but the Ryder winner sticks in the memory vividly
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