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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH 16:45 - Sep 12 with 15041 viewsNotLoyal

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Swansea City v Millwall
Wednesday September 15th 2021
The newly named stadium
Kick off 7.45pm


You can watch via SKY Sports 🔴 Button.

Match Officials : JOHN BUSBY

Steven Meredith and Andrew Fox

Fourth Official : Dean Whitestone


Ooooh, look what I’ve got, referee John Busby doing show and tell at work

Millwall will come bowling in to Swansea with their sights firmly set on Rossi’s chip bar renowned internationally for its chips. In recent times their bowling in to towns has caused a few headaches, on Saturday for example they had a right old do with supporters of WBA. There was lots of dancing, the odd punch and a bloke at one point had a bit of a kip on the floor.


Millwall fans come bowling in to another town yet again. Utter mayhem

The game will be played at he newly named stadium also known as the ‘ Used to be called the Liberty stadium’ in Swansea. A chap called Martin’s Organ is currently in the building and it is expected this week he will have some lovely new signs put up if he gets a few hours off. Which is nice.

Earliest news that’s described as latest news
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/news/55730/ntcham-chomping-at

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/news/55756/expectations-are-h

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/news/55759/rhys-williams-the-

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/news/55760/ben-hamer-wants-to

Tonight’s game at the newly named stadium kicks off at 7.45pm. Tickets for the game are still available from the stadium or online. You can watch via SKY Sports 🔴 Button. Millwall are expected to bring a small away following of around 120.

Swansea City: Ben Hamer; Ryan Bennett, Kyle Naughton, Ben Cabango; Ethan Laird, Flynn Downes, Matt Grimes (captain), Ryan Manning; Olivier Ntcham, Jamie Paterson; Joel Piroe.

Substitutes: Steven Benda, Jay Fulton, Michael Obafemi, Liam Cullen, Joel Latibeaudiere, Jake Bidwell, Liam Walsh.

Millwall: Bartosz Bialkowski, Murray Wallace, Jake Cooper (captain), Maikel Kieftenbeld, Jed Wallace, Scott Malone, George Saville, Dan Ballard, Billy Mitchell, Mason Bennett, Tom Bradshaw.

Substitutes: George Long, Alex Pearce, Ryan Leonard, Ben Thompson, Connor Mahoney, Matt Smith, Jon Dadi Bodvarsson.



Half Time stats


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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:35 - Sep 15 with 1245 viewsGeoffThom

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:08 - Sep 15 by AndyCole

Odd how some choose to lash out on our talisman, Grimesy.

Martin's captain and main man, as per.

Downes was a spare part, a waste of a shirt playing alongside Naughts. Martin needs to flex his model of always playing one (and often 2) deep lying CDMs. So yesteryear.

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Jesus those drugs aren’t working downes was excellent
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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 22:39 - Sep 15 with 1214 viewsGeoffThom

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 22:26 - Sep 15 by Brynmill_Jack

I think Patterson had his most effective game for us in fairness. Grimes is a fraud end of. A roofer pretending to be a championship midfield player


He was ok first 30 mins after that not a lot and really should have scored awful miss
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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:39 - Sep 15 with 1203 viewsDr_Parnassus

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:34 - Sep 15 by magicdaps10

I am basing it on the amount of shots we are getting on target.... Accuracy.

So over those 7 games we have a higher % of those shots hitting the target, nothing to get excited over if we compare goals or league position based on those 7 games but this season can't be compared to the last 2 seasons taking things into consideration.


But you still aren’t coming up with the correct calculation for that.

You are dividing shots on target by shots. That’s incorrect.

To work out accuracy you have to find out what % the on target number is in relation to the shots number.


Coopers first season:- 40.7% accuracy
Coopers second season:- 34.6% accuracy

This season:- 33.8% accuracy

Really not too sure what you are thinking here Daps.
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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:39 - Sep 15 with 1212 viewsmagicdaps10

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:35 - Sep 15 by GeoffThom

Jesus those drugs aren’t working downes was excellent


I think Downes is a superb player, let's not forget that a week before he joined us, Bournemouth were trying to sign him rather than push ahead with Grimes.
They didn't push ahead as they wouldn't meet Ipswich's valuation but it's clear that they were Foolish not too.

Boy is class.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:40 - Sep 15 with 1200 viewsKeithHaynes

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:41 - Sep 15 with 1194 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:35 - Sep 15 by GeoffThom

Jesus those drugs aren’t working downes was excellent


I thought he might bite. And completely expose his lack of football knowledge. Downes is already a better player than Grimes. Take the concrete overcoat (Grimes) from weighing him down then he’ll get even better.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:43 - Sep 15 with 1181 viewsjasper_T

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:35 - Sep 15 by GeoffThom

Jesus those drugs aren’t working downes was excellent


He was an excellent, largely spare part until the game got scrappy in the second half and he had to cover for knackered players and those falling over. Could have played him in the back three and we wouldn't have suffered for it.
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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 22:43 - Sep 15 with 1178 viewsmax936

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 22:32 - Sep 15 by 34dfgdf54

Don’t see it in Paterson at all.


Nor me to be honest, works hard in fairness, but its got to be one or the other for me in Grimes or Paterson getting nowhere with both there at the expense of Walsh, Ntcham or even Piroe and Obafemi playing up front, Grimes in front of Defence, Ntcham, Walsh and Piroe and Obafemi in front, Ntcham out wide looked a waste tonight, I only saw 2nd half though.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:45 - Sep 15 with 1163 viewsGeoffThom

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:41 - Sep 15 by Brynmill_Jack

I thought he might bite. And completely expose his lack of football knowledge. Downes is already a better player than Grimes. Take the concrete overcoat (Grimes) from weighing him down then he’ll get even better.


Lmao 🤣 you wish, downes in the position he was told to play was outstanding
Worst player on the pitch tonight even after a good debut was NITCHAM
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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:46 - Sep 15 with 1154 viewsKeithHaynes

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:35 - Sep 15 by GeoffThom

Jesus those drugs aren’t working downes was excellent


Downes was indeed class tonight for me, when he gets on the ball going forwards he is a danger, just needs more confidence because there was one opportunity he could have run the length of their half and scored, but chose to pass.

His covering and pace is an asset as well.

We all have opinions though. He is better than Fulton for me.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 22:48 - Sep 15 with 1141 viewsKilkennyjack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 22:32 - Sep 15 by 34dfgdf54

Don’t see it in Paterson at all.


I have to agree on Paterson, offered next to nothing in terms of quality.

Piroe looked like Borja out there for me. Sorry.
Obafemi has to start.

Downes can play.
Ntcham looks like he has something.
Walsh and the keeper were positives.

I think we will improve but we coukd also take a pasting here and there as we are not solid.

Kyle never made a mistake all night long.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:51 - Sep 15 with 1126 viewsmagicdaps10

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:46 - Sep 15 by KeithHaynes

Downes was indeed class tonight for me, when he gets on the ball going forwards he is a danger, just needs more confidence because there was one opportunity he could have run the length of their half and scored, but chose to pass.

His covering and pace is an asset as well.

We all have opinions though. He is better than Fulton for me.


Superb player and Grimes and him can't play in the Midfield 2 together, Downes takes the slot as it stands so far.

Grimes as I say needs to be taken out there but I would certainly play him on the left of the back 3. I like Grimes and certainly adds something but not in the position he is at present and in line with the way the team is trying to play.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:52 - Sep 15 with 1123 viewsmax936

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:46 - Sep 15 by KeithHaynes

Downes was indeed class tonight for me, when he gets on the ball going forwards he is a danger, just needs more confidence because there was one opportunity he could have run the length of their half and scored, but chose to pass.

His covering and pace is an asset as well.

We all have opinions though. He is better than Fulton for me.


He's better than Fulton yes, Fulton will play this season though, he's a decent player, but we got to many Midfielders who are quite samey, so its a bit of a conundrum.
If Walsh can stay fit, he plays for me Obafemi as well, two games in a week is to much for Ntcham at the moment.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:52 - Sep 15 with 1122 viewsmagicdaps10

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:39 - Sep 15 by Dr_Parnassus

But you still aren’t coming up with the correct calculation for that.

You are dividing shots on target by shots. That’s incorrect.

To work out accuracy you have to find out what % the on target number is in relation to the shots number.


Coopers first season:- 40.7% accuracy
Coopers second season:- 34.6% accuracy

This season:- 33.8% accuracy

Really not too sure what you are thinking here Daps.
[Post edited 15 Sep 2021 22:40]


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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 22:57 - Sep 15 with 1101 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 22:48 - Sep 15 by Kilkennyjack

I have to agree on Paterson, offered next to nothing in terms of quality.

Piroe looked like Borja out there for me. Sorry.
Obafemi has to start.

Downes can play.
Ntcham looks like he has something.
Walsh and the keeper were positives.

I think we will improve but we coukd also take a pasting here and there as we are not solid.

Kyle never made a mistake all night long.


If you think Obafemi is better than Piroe - you’re watching the wrong sport. Maybe you should try crown green bowls?

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 23:17 - Sep 15 with 1041 viewsKilkennyjack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 22:57 - Sep 15 by Brynmill_Jack

If you think Obafemi is better than Piroe - you’re watching the wrong sport. Maybe you should try crown green bowls?


Says the village idiot who thought Paterson was effective tonight.
Try painting by numbers, you are sure to be better at that.

You tell me what minutes i need to rewatch Piroe as a threat on goal and i will go take another look.

You also advocated Obafemi to start earlier in thread, so no idea why you are having a temper tantrum about that. At least Obafemi was some sort of threat and should have scored when Walsh played him in.

I dont think football is for you.
You are a bit twp.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 23:22 - Sep 15 with 1028 viewsAndyCole

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:46 - Sep 15 by KeithHaynes

Downes was indeed class tonight for me, when he gets on the ball going forwards he is a danger, just needs more confidence because there was one opportunity he could have run the length of their half and scored, but chose to pass.

His covering and pace is an asset as well.

We all have opinions though. He is better than Fulton for me.


We do. Opinions hey. Downes isn't comparable with Fulton. Different players, different positions.

Our best, tried and tested combo is Grimes CDM with Fulton CM picking up 2nd phase and linking further forward with our #10/#9.

At CDM, Downes lacks Grimesy's vision, awareness and timing in sniffing out danger. "nd half we almost conceded when Downes fluffed his defensive lines covering out wide right. He has much to learn in that space and as such was a total spare part in a game which we should have been driving and winning.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 23:24 - Sep 15 with 1029 viewsKilkennyjack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 23:22 - Sep 15 by AndyCole

We do. Opinions hey. Downes isn't comparable with Fulton. Different players, different positions.

Our best, tried and tested combo is Grimes CDM with Fulton CM picking up 2nd phase and linking further forward with our #10/#9.

At CDM, Downes lacks Grimesy's vision, awareness and timing in sniffing out danger. "nd half we almost conceded when Downes fluffed his defensive lines covering out wide right. He has much to learn in that space and as such was a total spare part in a game which we should have been driving and winning.

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Downes is a different level of player to Fulton. Fact.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 23:25 - Sep 15 with 1029 viewsmax936

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 23:17 - Sep 15 by Kilkennyjack

Says the village idiot who thought Paterson was effective tonight.
Try painting by numbers, you are sure to be better at that.

You tell me what minutes i need to rewatch Piroe as a threat on goal and i will go take another look.

You also advocated Obafemi to start earlier in thread, so no idea why you are having a temper tantrum about that. At least Obafemi was some sort of threat and should have scored when Walsh played him in.

I dont think football is for you.
You are a bit twp.


Nice to see it’s turned out nice again 😂

Correction on Brynnie though, he’s not a Village Idiot or a tad twp, he’s a trumpet although he does have his moments 🤣

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 23:44 - Sep 15 with 1003 viewsWalterBoyd

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 22:57 - Sep 15 by Brynmill_Jack

If you think Obafemi is better than Piroe - you’re watching the wrong sport. Maybe you should try crown green bowls?


I must be honest I thought Obafemi was a breath of fresh air when he came on. Lifted the crowd. He had great pace, looked a threat, should have scored and with more game time I think he would take those chances.

Ntcham and Piroe, I thought didn't have great games. Piroe wanted through balls played to him but they weren't happening for whatever reason, Obafemi was finding space and getting played in more.

Obafemi held ball up really well, great touch on the ball, more pace than Piroe. Must start next match against Luton.

Downes was strong in midfield and made positive runs. Grimes could learn a thing or two from him.
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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 00:00 - Sep 16 with 981 viewsTreforys_Jack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 23:22 - Sep 15 by AndyCole

We do. Opinions hey. Downes isn't comparable with Fulton. Different players, different positions.

Our best, tried and tested combo is Grimes CDM with Fulton CM picking up 2nd phase and linking further forward with our #10/#9.

At CDM, Downes lacks Grimesy's vision, awareness and timing in sniffing out danger. "nd half we almost conceded when Downes fluffed his defensive lines covering out wide right. He has much to learn in that space and as such was a total spare part in a game which we should have been driving and winning.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 07:45 - Sep 16 with 767 viewsangryjack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 22:57 - Sep 15 by Brynmill_Jack

If you think Obafemi is better than Piroe - you’re watching the wrong sport. Maybe you should try crown green bowls?


Piroe is quality is movement is outstanding pulsing defender in great positions..but the ball ain't getting played quick enough into the alleys ge creates...give him proper service and he score hatful
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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 07:48 - Sep 16 with 754 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 23:17 - Sep 15 by Kilkennyjack

Says the village idiot who thought Paterson was effective tonight.
Try painting by numbers, you are sure to be better at that.

You tell me what minutes i need to rewatch Piroe as a threat on goal and i will go take another look.

You also advocated Obafemi to start earlier in thread, so no idea why you are having a temper tantrum about that. At least Obafemi was some sort of threat and should have scored when Walsh played him in.

I dont think football is for you.
You are a bit twp.


You’re the one rubbishing clearly the best striker we’ve had in years not me. Obafemi and Piroe should play up front together but you seem to be advocating playing Obafemi as a lone striker.


Obafemi May have pace but Piroe has the proven finishing ability , the best movement and general all round play. Oba fluffed his big chance tonight - Piroe would have buried it if it fell to him.

You’re a bit of a div aren’t you .

Paterson had far more of an impact on the game than he has been in previous matches - the real problem for all our attacking players is Grimes getting in Downes way and slowing our play down to Cooper speed. Now kindly buzz off there’s a good little boy - isn’t there some brexit or independence thread screaming out for your “input “? Best leave the football discussions to those who understand it. Off you , er, trott.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 07:58 - Sep 16 with 741 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:34 - Sep 15 by magicdaps10

I am basing it on the amount of shots we are getting on target.... Accuracy.

So over those 7 games we have a higher % of those shots hitting the target, nothing to get excited over if we compare goals or league position based on those 7 games but this season can't be compared to the last 2 seasons taking things into consideration.


Put him on ignore for Gods sake. If we had quicker ball from front to back (still playing a possession game) then we’d be seeing more goals. Or rather seeing some goals. As it is we’re playing Cooper lite at the back and allowing the opposing teams to reset. When Downes brought the ball forward in the first half it resulted in a good chance. It’s easy to set up against balls being knocked around the back - the pressing midfielders find it easy to snuff out the occasional ball forward to the likes of Patterson as it is so slow.

When you carry the ball past players as Downes did it pulls everyone out of position defensively. It’s not rocket science. Imagine if Ntcham was doing that with his power. Just go back to The Bristol and Reading away games when Piroe ran at a retreating defence - scored with one had the other one on target and unlucky not to score.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH on 07:58 - Sep 16 with 740 views34dfgdf54

We are toothless going forward, lack of goals was always going to be a worry losing Ayew, Lowe and Roberts who I assume played a part in a very, very big percentage of our goals last year. But there is certain things Martin needs to do to remedy it.

It's either Grimes or Downes for me, I'd opt for the latter personally. It's no slight on Grimes, I'm a huge fan it is too pedestrian in there at present. We need a genuine 8 next to them then, I'd give Dan Williams a run if Walsh isn't fit to start. Get Whittaker on the bench in front of Cullen who unfortunately offers very, very little. Obafemi replacing Paterson aswell.
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