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Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 12:42 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1
Do not discuss racism if you do not 'technically' understand it.
Being terrified of an English far right fascist in person was frightening for me and my family (being Welsh). I object to being characterised as princess. It was in person close and personal with young family members. You like to go back to the crowd context to avoid the issue.
You have no sympathy for you brother Welshmen (in danger) but are concerned at on line abuse of Dhanda and Whittaker who were not. Perhaps you accept that Welsh people are 'fair game' due to our 500+ years association with our neighbours. Some black commentators play down monkey abuse and accept it as part of their fate.
I fully expected you to take exception. You’ve commented several times on various threads about how offensive you find the term ‘sheepshagger’ both face to face and as part of a crowd. With that in mind, I didn’t think you’d like ‘princess’ either.
I didn’t say I didn’t understand it. I said there’s very little between them in terms of how offensive they are meant to be. They are both essentially tongue in cheek insults. The type of thing Dhanda had is not.
If you did genuinely run into a far right English fascist, it’s a good job your Welsh, not black or Asian.
Playing down monkey abuse is exactly what you’re doing.
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Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:24 - Aug 26 with 667 views
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:10 - Aug 26 by jack247
I fully expected you to take exception. You’ve commented several times on various threads about how offensive you find the term ‘sheepshagger’ both face to face and as part of a crowd. With that in mind, I didn’t think you’d like ‘princess’ either.
I didn’t say I didn’t understand it. I said there’s very little between them in terms of how offensive they are meant to be. They are both essentially tongue in cheek insults. The type of thing Dhanda had is not.
If you did genuinely run into a far right English fascist, it’s a good job your Welsh, not black or Asian.
Playing down monkey abuse is exactly what you’re doing.
Whilst I don't really agree on the sheep thing, it does raise a very valid topic of the acceptable face of racism.
Travellers, gypsies, caucasians and even the Irish are seen as fair game for ethnicity based jibing.
I take it back to the NBA and Luka Doncic being called a ''Bitch a** white boy'' in front of TV cameras and absolutely nothing done about it. The league is 75% black or there abouts.
If we truly want racism stamped out then it needs to be across the board and we cant have some people seen as fair game.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 11:27 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1
I have been called a 'sheepshagger' four times in banter and in the spirit of education and development pointed out it is not funny and in my view discriminatory. I am like that. Twice it got a good response and twice it did not.
On numerous occasions i have been in close proximity to opposing fans, some vary shadey characters with pale skin cropped hairdos and neck tatts with an extremely aggressively delivery of sheep banter associated with menace and a threat of violence. On one occasion this has been with young family members. I was quite fearful. In this case I did not confront the person or seek to educate them for my own well being.
I do not trivialise anything. Accusing Welsh families of being deviant in an aggressive manner is not something that should be condoned or tolerated. Some people like me are proud to be Welsh.
Celts are a branch of white Indo European tribes. (a 'Race') All Welsh teams are treated like this not just Swansea. The hate is focused on 'the Welsh' and only the Welsh by the English far right and their sympathisers.
Saying England 'is full of shit' is on the other hand not racist. This should be obvious to you. You clearly do not understand what racism is. The fans of Brighton are targeted with homo phobic taunts. It is illegal.
If an English man calls you a 'sheepshagger' to your face you are not offended (assuming you are Welsh) . I am. Different strokes for different folks. Some Black people brush off Monkey taunts.
Getting hot under the collar on one racist insult in cyber space is fine but ignoring 1000 snarling Millwall fans making sheep noise and the Swansea team bus seems perfectly OK to some. Its downright wierd.
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I can understand a black person being offended by certain things, but being offended by someone who says I like to have sex with a farm animal is something I cannot comprehend.
It's like someone calling me Jesus, because I have a long beard. It doesn't matter how aggressively they say it, it's still not offensive.
How on earth is being called a sheepshagger racist? There are a lot of sheep in Wales. We love sheep. Who cares if someone wants to say that some of us may want to bum them? Getting upset about that is quite pathetic if you ask me.
Apologies if you have some sort of farm animal trauma in your life, but if not, don't be such a snowflake, as they like to say these days.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:29 - Aug 26 by jackrmee
I can understand a black person being offended by certain things, but being offended by someone who says I like to have sex with a farm animal is something I cannot comprehend.
It's like someone calling me Jesus, because I have a long beard. It doesn't matter how aggressively they say it, it's still not offensive.
How on earth is being called a sheepshagger racist? There are a lot of sheep in Wales. We love sheep. Who cares if someone wants to say that some of us may want to bum them? Getting upset about that is quite pathetic if you ask me.
Apologies if you have some sort of farm animal trauma in your life, but if not, don't be such a snowflake, as they like to say these days.
Absolutely
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Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 12:42 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1
Do not discuss racism if you do not 'technically' understand it.
Being terrified of an English far right fascist in person was frightening for me and my family (being Welsh). I object to being characterised as princess. It was in person close and personal with young family members. You like to go back to the crowd context to avoid the issue.
You have no sympathy for you brother Welshmen (in danger) but are concerned at on line abuse of Dhanda and Whittaker who were not. Perhaps you accept that Welsh people are 'fair game' due to our 500+ years association with our neighbours. Some black commentators play down monkey abuse and accept it as part of their fate.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 12:42 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1
Do not discuss racism if you do not 'technically' understand it.
Being terrified of an English far right fascist in person was frightening for me and my family (being Welsh). I object to being characterised as princess. It was in person close and personal with young family members. You like to go back to the crowd context to avoid the issue.
You have no sympathy for you brother Welshmen (in danger) but are concerned at on line abuse of Dhanda and Whittaker who were not. Perhaps you accept that Welsh people are 'fair game' due to our 500+ years association with our neighbours. Some black commentators play down monkey abuse and accept it as part of their fate.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 12:42 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1
Do not discuss racism if you do not 'technically' understand it.
Being terrified of an English far right fascist in person was frightening for me and my family (being Welsh). I object to being characterised as princess. It was in person close and personal with young family members. You like to go back to the crowd context to avoid the issue.
You have no sympathy for you brother Welshmen (in danger) but are concerned at on line abuse of Dhanda and Whittaker who were not. Perhaps you accept that Welsh people are 'fair game' due to our 500+ years association with our neighbours. Some black commentators play down monkey abuse and accept it as part of their fate.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 12:42 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1
Do not discuss racism if you do not 'technically' understand it.
Being terrified of an English far right fascist in person was frightening for me and my family (being Welsh). I object to being characterised as princess. It was in person close and personal with young family members. You like to go back to the crowd context to avoid the issue.
You have no sympathy for you brother Welshmen (in danger) but are concerned at on line abuse of Dhanda and Whittaker who were not. Perhaps you accept that Welsh people are 'fair game' due to our 500+ years association with our neighbours. Some black commentators play down monkey abuse and accept it as part of their fate.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 12:42 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1
Do not discuss racism if you do not 'technically' understand it.
Being terrified of an English far right fascist in person was frightening for me and my family (being Welsh). I object to being characterised as princess. It was in person close and personal with young family members. You like to go back to the crowd context to avoid the issue.
You have no sympathy for you brother Welshmen (in danger) but are concerned at on line abuse of Dhanda and Whittaker who were not. Perhaps you accept that Welsh people are 'fair game' due to our 500+ years association with our neighbours. Some black commentators play down monkey abuse and accept it as part of their fate.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 12:42 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1
Do not discuss racism if you do not 'technically' understand it.
Being terrified of an English far right fascist in person was frightening for me and my family (being Welsh). I object to being characterised as princess. It was in person close and personal with young family members. You like to go back to the crowd context to avoid the issue.
You have no sympathy for you brother Welshmen (in danger) but are concerned at on line abuse of Dhanda and Whittaker who were not. Perhaps you accept that Welsh people are 'fair game' due to our 500+ years association with our neighbours. Some black commentators play down monkey abuse and accept it as part of their fate.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:29 - Aug 26 by jackrmee
I can understand a black person being offended by certain things, but being offended by someone who says I like to have sex with a farm animal is something I cannot comprehend.
It's like someone calling me Jesus, because I have a long beard. It doesn't matter how aggressively they say it, it's still not offensive.
How on earth is being called a sheepshagger racist? There are a lot of sheep in Wales. We love sheep. Who cares if someone wants to say that some of us may want to bum them? Getting upset about that is quite pathetic if you ask me.
Apologies if you have some sort of farm animal trauma in your life, but if not, don't be such a snowflake, as they like to say these days.
Again, that's telling the victim what they should feel though.
I disagree with the notion of sheep being offensive, simply because it doesn't offend me. But let's take the Welsh and sheep connotation away and replace it with Indian and curry for example. And let's say that an Indian person was complaining on here about such abuse.
Would you sympathise or call him a snowflake? I would do the former, for me I could see how that was offensive. So it's certainly is a tricky one... because on the other hand calling someone French a Frog I would also not deem as offensive, but it may well be.
I think this is what we have to be mindful of. Because currently we are picking and choosing who is allowed to be offended and who isn't. This is why I dislike the ''acceptable'' face of racism.
[Post edited 26 Aug 2021 13:42]
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 12:42 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1
Do not discuss racism if you do not 'technically' understand it.
Being terrified of an English far right fascist in person was frightening for me and my family (being Welsh). I object to being characterised as princess. It was in person close and personal with young family members. You like to go back to the crowd context to avoid the issue.
You have no sympathy for you brother Welshmen (in danger) but are concerned at on line abuse of Dhanda and Whittaker who were not. Perhaps you accept that Welsh people are 'fair game' due to our 500+ years association with our neighbours. Some black commentators play down monkey abuse and accept it as part of their fate.
Surely hthe issue is the aggressiveness of the incident and the fear caused by the aggressor, not the word "sheepshagger" though?
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:24 - Aug 26 by Dr_Parnassus
Whilst I don't really agree on the sheep thing, it does raise a very valid topic of the acceptable face of racism.
Travellers, gypsies, caucasians and even the Irish are seen as fair game for ethnicity based jibing.
I take it back to the NBA and Luka Doncic being called a ''Bitch a** white boy'' in front of TV cameras and absolutely nothing done about it. The league is 75% black or there abouts.
If we truly want racism stamped out then it needs to be across the board and we cant have some people seen as fair game.
It’s the context that matters.
Going by Resolvens description of events, he’s just run into a thug at football. If Resolven happened to be Scottish, Irish, French, German, Jewish, black, Asian, etc, I’m sure he’d have had the corresponding insult.
Nobody knows for sure, but my guess is if he’d ran into the same guy in Tesco on a Tuesday, the guy wouldn’t have said anything. To me, that’s not a racial problem, that’s an idiot using the most convenient insult to antagonise.
I accept Resolven may disagree.
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Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:44 - Aug 26 with 637 views
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:36 - Aug 26 by Dr_Parnassus
Again, that's telling the victim what they should feel though.
I disagree with the notion of sheep being offensive, simply because it doesn't offend me. But let's take the Welsh and sheep connotation away and replace it with Indian and curry for example. And let's say that an Indian person was complaining on here about such abuse.
Would you sympathise or call him a snowflake? I would do the former, for me I could see how that was offensive. So it's certainly is a tricky one... because on the other hand calling someone French a Frog I would also not deem as offensive, but it may well be.
I think this is what we have to be mindful of. Because currently we are picking and choosing who is allowed to be offended and who isn't. This is why I dislike the ''acceptable'' face of racism.
[Post edited 26 Aug 2021 13:42]
My issue with this is the definition of race. (What actually got my back up is according to Resolven’s definition I’m not Welsh).
Using the curry example against an Asian is race related.
Sheep jokes to the Welsh is xenophobic.
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Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:48 - Aug 26 with 635 views
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:42 - Aug 26 by jack247
It’s the context that matters.
Going by Resolvens description of events, he’s just run into a thug at football. If Resolven happened to be Scottish, Irish, French, German, Jewish, black, Asian, etc, I’m sure he’d have had the corresponding insult.
Nobody knows for sure, but my guess is if he’d ran into the same guy in Tesco on a Tuesday, the guy wouldn’t have said anything. To me, that’s not a racial problem, that’s an idiot using the most convenient insult to antagonise.
I accept Resolven may disagree.
I absolutely agree context matters, but we don't always know the context in which it is used. Often white people are targeted with their livelihoods and torrents of online abuse, even though everyone knows the context used.
For example Souness once said that there should be more colored players in the game or something, and was then lobbied for his sacking.
We are in a day and age where we decide who can be offended and who can't, with very similar types of attacks. We also decide who is racist and who isn't based on the same types of sentences.
It has never sat right with me and there is far too much acceptance of such things. There is a certain feeling that a few groups are fair game and that cant be a good precedent to set for the youth when trying to have a race revolution.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:36 - Aug 26 by Dr_Parnassus
Again, that's telling the victim what they should feel though.
I disagree with the notion of sheep being offensive, simply because it doesn't offend me. But let's take the Welsh and sheep connotation away and replace it with Indian and curry for example. And let's say that an Indian person was complaining on here about such abuse.
Would you sympathise or call him a snowflake? I would do the former, for me I could see how that was offensive. So it's certainly is a tricky one... because on the other hand calling someone French a Frog I would also not deem as offensive, but it may well be.
I think this is what we have to be mindful of. Because currently we are picking and choosing who is allowed to be offended and who isn't. This is why I dislike the ''acceptable'' face of racism.
[Post edited 26 Aug 2021 13:42]
I'm not telling you how you should feel. I'm telling you how I feel and what I understand and don't understand.
I would proably ask the Indian guy what he finds so offensive about someone telling him to go make a curry, or whatever the "abuse" may have been. If the person has a good reason for being offended by curry comments, or has had some sort of traumatic curry incident, I would understand. Otherwise, I would ask him why he takes offence.
I'm wondering why being called a sheepshagger is so offensive to you? I mean, if you actually go round molesting sheep for instance, this kind of name calling may hurt, but if you have nothing to do with sexual acts involving sheep, why would you let it get to you?
Exactly mate...calling someone a French Frog is exaclty the same as calling someone a Welsh sheepshagger. It means absolutely nothing.
Out of interest. If the insult was "Welsh sheep lover", or "Sheep hugger", would you still be offended?
If I was called a "Lamb Leatherer" I suppose I would have to kick off. I'm not into underage. It's not racist though.
EDIT... we are not picking and choosing who is allowed to be offended. People are picking and choosing what they decide offends them. It's pathetic.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:44 - Aug 26 by Gwyn737
My issue with this is the definition of race. (What actually got my back up is according to Resolven’s definition I’m not Welsh).
Using the curry example against an Asian is race related.
Sheep jokes to the Welsh is xenophobic.
I didn't say Asian, I said Indian. It's a very specific term associated with the country of India and not the Asian race. You wouldn't hear that slur against someone from Korea for example, it's very specific to India.
So in terms of it being Xenophobic and not racist. That would also cover the jibe used against the Indian.
Do you see how its a very slippery slope?
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:50 - Aug 26 by jackrmee
I'm not telling you how you should feel. I'm telling you how I feel and what I understand and don't understand.
I would proably ask the Indian guy what he finds so offensive about someone telling him to go make a curry, or whatever the "abuse" may have been. If the person has a good reason for being offended by curry comments, or has had some sort of traumatic curry incident, I would understand. Otherwise, I would ask him why he takes offence.
I'm wondering why being called a sheepshagger is so offensive to you? I mean, if you actually go round molesting sheep for instance, this kind of name calling may hurt, but if you have nothing to do with sexual acts involving sheep, why would you let it get to you?
Exactly mate...calling someone a French Frog is exaclty the same as calling someone a Welsh sheepshagger. It means absolutely nothing.
Out of interest. If the insult was "Welsh sheep lover", or "Sheep hugger", would you still be offended?
If I was called a "Lamb Leatherer" I suppose I would have to kick off. I'm not into underage. It's not racist though.
EDIT... we are not picking and choosing who is allowed to be offended. People are picking and choosing what they decide offends them. It's pathetic.
[Post edited 26 Aug 2021 13:52]
Well not me, Resolven.
I agree with you that it isn't offensive, but only because it isn't offensive to me. I couldn't give a damn what someone calls me. But my point is, it may be offensive to him.
Curry jibe may be offensive to an Indian too. Hard to put myself in their position as I am not Indian, but it's a fair chance I wouldn't be offended by that either. But it doesn't mean it isn't offensive to someone else.
I am pretty sure if someone says that on live TV, they would never work again. But they may get away with a sheep jibe to the welsh assuming they didn't swear.
This is why acceptable racism/xenophobia is a very bad standard to set.
[Post edited 26 Aug 2021 13:56]
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:42 - Aug 26 by jack247
It’s the context that matters.
Going by Resolvens description of events, he’s just run into a thug at football. If Resolven happened to be Scottish, Irish, French, German, Jewish, black, Asian, etc, I’m sure he’d have had the corresponding insult.
Nobody knows for sure, but my guess is if he’d ran into the same guy in Tesco on a Tuesday, the guy wouldn’t have said anything. To me, that’s not a racial problem, that’s an idiot using the most convenient insult to antagonise.
I accept Resolven may disagree.
Exactly.
Sheepshagger is only being used towards Welsh people because there are loads of sheep here. It's only still used as an insult becuase some silly people decided to get offended by it and show the insulters that it works as an insult.
If we started calling English people insults in regards to them bottling World cups and Euros. This would not be classed as racist or insulting. Until people started stating that they are offended by it and explaining why. Someone somewhere would then class it as racist. It's pretty pathetic IMO.
Something is not racist just because someone is offended by it.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:51 - Aug 26 by Dr_Parnassus
I didn't say Asian, I said Indian. It's a very specific term associated with the country of India and not the Asian race. You wouldn't hear that slur against someone from Korea for example, it's very specific to India.
So in terms of it being Xenophobic and not racist. That would also cover the jibe used against the Indian.
Do you see how its a very slippery slope?
That’s really my point - misplaced ‘racism’.
Back to the OP.
The account used seems to me to have been deliberately set up to do just what it did. It’s most likely a troll who get a thrill out of clicks.
He wins as gets his weird ego fed and Twitter generate money through traffic caused by controversy.
Sad state of affairs.
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Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 14:04 - Aug 26 with 604 views
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:57 - Aug 26 by Gwyn737
That’s really my point - misplaced ‘racism’.
Back to the OP.
The account used seems to me to have been deliberately set up to do just what it did. It’s most likely a troll who get a thrill out of clicks.
He wins as gets his weird ego fed and Twitter generate money through traffic caused by controversy.
Sad state of affairs.
Agree, not many understand what racism is and often see attacks on religion and country as racism, when neither are ''races'' as such. Both scummy things to do, but not technically racism.
But agree, whenever there is an incident of online racism, I automatically assume its an online troll looking for attention. I would be shocked if this isn't the case, yet again.
It's purely attention. Which is a major reason the knee is counter productive. It creates a heated political hot potato topic that continues to grow, meaning that trolls will always be able to get top returns of attention from the subject.
Rarely got these types of things so consistently when it was Kick it Out, simply because everyone agreed with the message.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:54 - Aug 26 by Dr_Parnassus
Well not me, Resolven.
I agree with you that it isn't offensive, but only because it isn't offensive to me. I couldn't give a damn what someone calls me. But my point is, it may be offensive to him.
Curry jibe may be offensive to an Indian too. Hard to put myself in their position as I am not Indian, but it's a fair chance I wouldn't be offended by that either. But it doesn't mean it isn't offensive to someone else.
I am pretty sure if someone says that on live TV, they would never work again. But they may get away with a sheep jibe to the welsh assuming they didn't swear.
This is why acceptable racism/xenophobia is a very bad standard to set.
[Post edited 26 Aug 2021 13:56]
I agree, but just because it's offensive, doesn't mean it's racist and doesn't mean that anything has to be done.
Someone may say something to me which I find offensive. It's not the fault of the person who said it that I decide to take offence by it.
There are so many things that could cause offence, it doesn't mean they should be outlawed or that they are racist.
I would like to ask the OP what exactly they find offensive by being called a sheep shagger. Why did he decide to take offence by it? Is it just the principle, or is he actually offended?
So if I got in an argument with a fat, ginger, Indian looking guy with glasses from Wales, which insults would be acceptable, which should I be arrested for?
1) "Go to hell you ginger tw@t". 2) "Whatever fatty, go eat a pie". 3) "Clear off curry muncher". 4) "Fk off four eyes". 5) "Sheep sheep sheepshagger".
Personally, I would not use the curry one, unsure why, but I would have no problem with retaliating by using any of the others. But why are some more offensive than others?
*I do not hate all ginger people or fat people, so just because I said those words doesn't mean I am gingerist, or hate all fat people. It also doesn't mean I am racist towards Welsh people. I actually use contact lenses, have a fat belly, have ginger in my beard, enjoy munching masalas and am from Wales, so all those insults would apply to myself also. It is simply the first and easiest way to wind someone up.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 13:50 - Aug 26 by jackrmee
I'm not telling you how you should feel. I'm telling you how I feel and what I understand and don't understand.
I would proably ask the Indian guy what he finds so offensive about someone telling him to go make a curry, or whatever the "abuse" may have been. If the person has a good reason for being offended by curry comments, or has had some sort of traumatic curry incident, I would understand. Otherwise, I would ask him why he takes offence.
I'm wondering why being called a sheepshagger is so offensive to you? I mean, if you actually go round molesting sheep for instance, this kind of name calling may hurt, but if you have nothing to do with sexual acts involving sheep, why would you let it get to you?
Exactly mate...calling someone a French Frog is exaclty the same as calling someone a Welsh sheepshagger. It means absolutely nothing.
Out of interest. If the insult was "Welsh sheep lover", or "Sheep hugger", would you still be offended?
If I was called a "Lamb Leatherer" I suppose I would have to kick off. I'm not into underage. It's not racist though.
EDIT... we are not picking and choosing who is allowed to be offended. People are picking and choosing what they decide offends them. It's pathetic.
[Post edited 26 Aug 2021 13:52]
If you see no offence at you and your family as being aggressively labelled a deviant on the basis of your ethnicity then I cannot help you I'm afraid.
We live on different planets. You are welcome to continue to doff your cap at those insulting you and your family if that is the safest option.
Swans player racially abused again on twitter on 14:18 - Aug 26 by jackrmee
So if I got in an argument with a fat, ginger, Indian looking guy with glasses from Wales, which insults would be acceptable, which should I be arrested for?
1) "Go to hell you ginger tw@t". 2) "Whatever fatty, go eat a pie". 3) "Clear off curry muncher". 4) "Fk off four eyes". 5) "Sheep sheep sheepshagger".
Personally, I would not use the curry one, unsure why, but I would have no problem with retaliating by using any of the others. But why are some more offensive than others?
*I do not hate all ginger people or fat people, so just because I said those words doesn't mean I am gingerist, or hate all fat people. It also doesn't mean I am racist towards Welsh people. I actually use contact lenses, have a fat belly, have ginger in my beard, enjoy munching masalas and am from Wales, so all those insults would apply to myself also. It is simply the first and easiest way to wind someone up.
This is the point being made.
If you used number 3 - one you also singled out as something you wouldn’t do, you may well get arrested. If not then people would certainly label you as racist at the very least.
So if there is a stigma there, then there should be with all similar insults to people of all origins really. But some are seen as acceptable and others not.
So it’s hard for me to tell Resolven he shouldn’t see that as an attack on his ethnicity when I probably would see it as that for the third option in your list. Yet they are essentially the same.
And that brings me back to the acceptable face of abuse/racism. Some people are allowed to be attacked based on their origins and others aren’t. It’s a bit of a double standard, it should all be seen as offensive and all thrown out.
I’m still amazed how the on court racial abuse of Doncic was allowed in the NBA, with social justice and anti racism messages strewn all over. The more you accept the more you invite as a society in my opinion.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
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