| wee jimmy krankie 08:15 - Dec 23 with 78032 views | britferry |
I'm not a hypocrite, the English made me break my own rules, we demand another once in a lifetime vote
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| wee jimmy krankie on 05:27 - Jul 1 with 1666 views | felixstowe_jack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 19:57 - Jun 30 by BryanSwan |
I do have one question for those who love the UK so dear. If say Scotland were to leave and Ireland were to Re Unify, what would you want Wales to do? |
We could have a referendum but as only 20% of the Welsh voters want independence it would be a waste of time. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 05:31 - Jul 1 with 1660 views | felixstowe_jack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 22:46 - Jun 30 by Catullus |
Nobody in Wales voted for a Tory PM? Come on now Noddy, even you know that's not true.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2019/results/wales
Labour got 40.9% of the vote and the Tories got 36.1% which is almost 4 times as many as PC AND that is just 4.8% less than Labour, nearly as many people voted for Johnson as voted Labour. |
Quite remarkable given that the valleys will always vote labour because their parents, grandparents and great grandparents did. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 09:31 - Jul 1 with 1627 views | johnlangy |
| wee jimmy krankie on 09:58 - Jun 30 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Just because she was voted in it does not make her the correct person to lead Scotland. |
The Scottish people elected the SNP whose leader happens to be NS. They have voted for the SNP in five or six elections since devolution, the last time with a record number of MSP's being voted in on a manifesto which included holding another referendum. That's around twenty five years of the Scottish people voting into power a party who's stated aim is an Independent Scotland.
How much more of a democratic mandate is needed ? | | | |
| wee jimmy krankie on 10:17 - Jul 1 with 1615 views | felixstowe_jack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 09:31 - Jul 1 by johnlangy |
The Scottish people elected the SNP whose leader happens to be NS. They have voted for the SNP in five or six elections since devolution, the last time with a record number of MSP's being voted in on a manifesto which included holding another referendum. That's around twenty five years of the Scottish people voting into power a party who's stated aim is an Independent Scotland.
How much more of a democratic mandate is needed ? |
Very democratic electing the SNP to run Scotland as a region within the UK with limited devolved power . Not the same as electing the SNP to run a self financing independent country. That is why 55% Voted for Scotland to remain part of the UK in 2014. How much more democratic do you want.
In the 2021 election the SNP got 44% of the constituency and regional vote which matches the 2014 referendum result. [Post edited 1 Jul 2022 10:21]
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| wee jimmy krankie on 22:30 - Jul 1 with 1567 views | Catullus |
| wee jimmy krankie on 09:31 - Jul 1 by johnlangy |
The Scottish people elected the SNP whose leader happens to be NS. They have voted for the SNP in five or six elections since devolution, the last time with a record number of MSP's being voted in on a manifesto which included holding another referendum. That's around twenty five years of the Scottish people voting into power a party who's stated aim is an Independent Scotland.
How much more of a democratic mandate is needed ? |
Yes but when they were given a referendum, 17 years into the SNP's takeover, they voted NO.
How often do we allow these referenda? If they want one every 8 years then every 8 years after they win there should be a vote to see if they want to return to the Union, yes? Except these people never work that way.
We waited 41 years for a vote on the EU membership yet the remainers were crying out for a vote to reverse this 2 years later, less actually. How often can we keep having votes? Because I guarantee if the Jocks went indy but the majority regretted it 5 years in, the SNP wouldn't be giving them a vote to reverse it. And if we had another vote on EU membership, we wouldn't be given another vote in my lifetime if we did return, maybe I'd better say another 41 years instead, just in case.
Maybe there should be rules, if you vote for something in a referendum you can only have another vote every 25 years? | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 08:31 - Jul 2 with 1557 views | felixstowe_jack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 22:30 - Jul 1 by Catullus |
Yes but when they were given a referendum, 17 years into the SNP's takeover, they voted NO.
How often do we allow these referenda? If they want one every 8 years then every 8 years after they win there should be a vote to see if they want to return to the Union, yes? Except these people never work that way.
We waited 41 years for a vote on the EU membership yet the remainers were crying out for a vote to reverse this 2 years later, less actually. How often can we keep having votes? Because I guarantee if the Jocks went indy but the majority regretted it 5 years in, the SNP wouldn't be giving them a vote to reverse it. And if we had another vote on EU membership, we wouldn't be given another vote in my lifetime if we did return, maybe I'd better say another 41 years instead, just in case.
Maybe there should be rules, if you vote for something in a referendum you can only have another vote every 25 years? |
Perhaps we should have another referendum on Welsh devolution after all it was over 20 years since we had the last one. Plenty of time has elapsed to see if people have judged if it has led to any improvements in Wales. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 13:33 - Jul 2 with 1507 views | Flashberryjack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 08:31 - Jul 2 by felixstowe_jack |
Perhaps we should have another referendum on Welsh devolution after all it was over 20 years since we had the last one. Plenty of time has elapsed to see if people have judged if it has led to any improvements in Wales. |
That will never happen, because they know what the outcome will be....senedd feeding trough closed. |  |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 18:36 - Jul 2 with 1480 views | johnlangy |
| wee jimmy krankie on 13:33 - Jul 2 by Flashberryjack |
That will never happen, because they know what the outcome will be....senedd feeding trough closed. |
You and felix completely wrong Flash.
It's just 11 years since Wales was asked it's opinion on how the Senedd was shaping up. We were asked f we wanted the Senedd to have more powers and voted yes by a majority of 2 to 1, hardly something the Welsh people would have done if they weren't happy with things..
So a resounding vote of confidence in our parliament by the people of Wales. | | | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 22:54 - Jul 2 with 1454 views | Kilkennyjack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 18:36 - Jul 2 by johnlangy |
You and felix completely wrong Flash.
It's just 11 years since Wales was asked it's opinion on how the Senedd was shaping up. We were asked f we wanted the Senedd to have more powers and voted yes by a majority of 2 to 1, hardly something the Welsh people would have done if they weren't happy with things..
So a resounding vote of confidence in our parliament by the people of Wales. |
Correct John.
‘Abolish’ stood last time, and had no support.
Thats a fact. |  |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 08:39 - Jul 4 with 1390 views | Kilkennyjack |
Scotland can use any currency it likes. Fact. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 11:27 - Jul 4 with 1343 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| wee jimmy krankie on 08:39 - Jul 4 by Kilkennyjack |
Scotland can use any currency it likes. Fact. |
He’s not wrong but there’s a lot he’s leaving out, or this video on this tweet has been heavily edited. | | | |
| wee jimmy krankie on 11:46 - Jul 4 with 1326 views | Whiterockin |
| wee jimmy krankie on 11:27 - Jul 4 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
He’s not wrong but there’s a lot he’s leaving out, or this video on this tweet has been heavily edited. |
It's a one way conversion with every response edited out. A bit pointless to promote it then as it only devalues the argument. |  | | |
| wee jimmy krankie on 11:46 - Jul 4 with 1321 views | Boundy |
| wee jimmy krankie on 08:39 - Jul 4 by Kilkennyjack |
Scotland can use any currency it likes. Fact. |
Therefore the jocks shouldn't moan when ever the Bank Of England , which incidentally is owned bu y the UK government, sets the bank rate which affects everyone , good and bad Not a good way for an independent country to manage its financial affairs ." an independent Scotland would have its own distinct balance of payments accounts, which would define its trade and capital transactions with the rest of the world — and these accounts would need to balance" | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 17:16 - Jul 4 with 1249 views | Flashberryjack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 18:36 - Jul 2 by johnlangy |
You and felix completely wrong Flash.
It's just 11 years since Wales was asked it's opinion on how the Senedd was shaping up. We were asked f we wanted the Senedd to have more powers and voted yes by a majority of 2 to 1, hardly something the Welsh people would have done if they weren't happy with things..
So a resounding vote of confidence in our parliament by the people of Wales. |
63.5% of voters supported further devolution is hardly 2 to 1.
After 11 years of Drakeford like management, I think the vote would be much different. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 19:04 - Jul 4 with 1206 views | felixstowe_jack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 18:36 - Jul 2 by johnlangy |
You and felix completely wrong Flash.
It's just 11 years since Wales was asked it's opinion on how the Senedd was shaping up. We were asked f we wanted the Senedd to have more powers and voted yes by a majority of 2 to 1, hardly something the Welsh people would have done if they weren't happy with things..
So a resounding vote of confidence in our parliament by the people of Wales. |
That was the only option on the ballot paper. No options for less powers or abolishion.
Because these options were not on the ballot paper turnout was only 35%. That means only 24% of the Welsh electorate vote to give the assembly more powers the other 76% either voted against or just did not vote as they had no option to vote for. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 19:11 - Jul 4 with 1198 views | Dr_Winston |
Less than 7000 votes made the difference in the first place, with the yes vote strongest in Neath/PT & Carms, two areas that have suffered significantly under the WG's "Cardiff First" philosophy.
Such a small number of Turkeys voting for Christmas have inflicted decades of damage on Wales as a whole. |  |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 19:37 - Jul 4 with 1178 views | Boundy |
| wee jimmy krankie on 19:11 - Jul 4 by Dr_Winston |
Less than 7000 votes made the difference in the first place, with the yes vote strongest in Neath/PT & Carms, two areas that have suffered significantly under the WG's "Cardiff First" philosophy.
Such a small number of Turkeys voting for Christmas have inflicted decades of damage on Wales as a whole. |
So the trough is getting bigger but we the " voters" will have no say on who is elected to join the gravy train
I had 3 votes in my ward at the recent council election. The voters had the power to pick and mix their votes. This new system means the parties use my 6 votes by proxy.
https://business.senedd.wales/mgIssueHistoryHome.aspx?IId=39531 | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 21:02 - Jul 4 with 1131 views | Flashberryjack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 19:37 - Jul 4 by Boundy |
So the trough is getting bigger but we the " voters" will have no say on who is elected to join the gravy train
I had 3 votes in my ward at the recent council election. The voters had the power to pick and mix their votes. This new system means the parties use my 6 votes by proxy.
https://business.senedd.wales/mgIssueHistoryHome.aspx?IId=39531 |
The welsh electorate being tucked up again. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 21:55 - Jul 4 with 1085 views | BryanSwan |
| wee jimmy krankie on 19:04 - Jul 4 by felixstowe_jack |
That was the only option on the ballot paper. No options for less powers or abolishion.
Because these options were not on the ballot paper turnout was only 35%. That means only 24% of the Welsh electorate vote to give the assembly more powers the other 76% either voted against or just did not vote as they had no option to vote for. |
Around 50% of people dont bother to vote for anything, whether than be an election or referendum.
Voters that cannot be bothered to vote do not count.
As for saying they had no option to vote for wouldnt it make sense if someone was anti the senedd that they would vote against them gaining further power? | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 22:05 - Jul 4 with 1075 views | Whiterockin |
| wee jimmy krankie on 21:55 - Jul 4 by BryanSwan |
Around 50% of people dont bother to vote for anything, whether than be an election or referendum.
Voters that cannot be bothered to vote do not count.
As for saying they had no option to vote for wouldnt it make sense if someone was anti the senedd that they would vote against them gaining further power? |
I didn't vote in the last Senedd election but would vote against Independence. | | | |
| wee jimmy krankie on 22:54 - Jul 4 with 1046 views | Kilkennyjack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 17:16 - Jul 4 by Flashberryjack |
63.5% of voters supported further devolution is hardly 2 to 1.
After 11 years of Drakeford like management, I think the vote would be much different. |
66% is 2 in 3 voters.
Hope that helps. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 06:44 - Jul 5 with 1012 views | BryanSwan |
| wee jimmy krankie on 22:05 - Jul 4 by Whiterockin |
I didn't vote in the last Senedd election but would vote against Independence. |
If you don't vote you don't get a say thats kind of how politics works. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 07:16 - Jul 5 with 993 views | Whiterockin |
| wee jimmy krankie on 06:44 - Jul 5 by BryanSwan |
If you don't vote you don't get a say thats kind of how politics works. |
Give me something worth voting for and I will vote. The Senedd is nothing more than a modern dictatorship. | | | |
| wee jimmy krankie on 07:41 - Jul 5 with 975 views | BryanSwan |
| wee jimmy krankie on 07:16 - Jul 5 by Whiterockin |
Give me something worth voting for and I will vote. The Senedd is nothing more than a modern dictatorship. |
Surely the irony of that last sentence isnt lost on you. The UK government is the biggest sham of all. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 08:03 - Jul 5 with 967 views | Whiterockin |
| wee jimmy krankie on 07:41 - Jul 5 by BryanSwan |
Surely the irony of that last sentence isnt lost on you. The UK government is the biggest sham of all. |
Have an election and the UK government could well change, have a Senedd election and nothing will change, a big difference. | | | |
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