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Drakeford man up 20:25 - Oct 12 with 5468 viewstrampie

Drakeford needs to man up and close the border with England, places like Liverpool are riddled with covid and Bojo is doing nothing to stop them from traveling to Wales.

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Drakeford man up on 16:22 - Oct 14 with 1148 viewstrampie



At last, talk that the ban is going to be in place on Friday.

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Drakeford man up on 16:57 - Oct 14 with 1129 viewsVincent_Vega

Make the next home match interesting as Huddersfield is a high risk area

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Drakeford man up on 17:20 - Oct 14 with 1113 viewstrampie

They won't stop people going to work.

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Drakeford man up on 18:48 - Oct 14 with 1095 viewsblackswan

Drakeford man up on 10:06 - Oct 13 by felixstowe_jack

The infection rate in Wales per 100,000 is higher than England. Perhaps the English should stop the Welsh crossing the border into England.


We cant leave swansea unless for work or health reasons. Welsh Tories trying to make out this is anti English when it isn't it's about same rules for all high areas. These prats will only boost the yes cymru movement
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Drakeford man up on 19:18 - Oct 14 with 1074 viewsmajorraglan

Drakeford man up on 10:06 - Oct 13 by felixstowe_jack

The infection rate in Wales per 100,000 is higher than England. Perhaps the English should stop the Welsh crossing the border into England.


Talking of National infection rates is a bit misleading, in Liverpool it’s very high while in places like Cornwall it’s very low. Drakeford is not stopping all English, Irish or Scottish visitors to Wales, he’s only stopping those visitors from the areas where there are higher rates of Covid, in England thats the Tier 2 and Tier 3 areas. There are gaps in the law which Drakeford is seeking to close.

I wouldn’t blame the English government one bit if they introduced legislation to prevent residents from high rate areas in Wales such as Merthyr entering England much the same as residents from Merthyr can’t travel to Tenby.
My take on this is that Boris is trying to balance the competing needs of the Country and the internal politics of his party.

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Drakeford man up on 19:40 - Oct 14 with 1065 viewsCatullus

It makes sense to stop people from any hotspot travelling anywhere else though, it should be done nationally surely? It's a Bojo failing if he won't do that.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Drakeford man up on 22:37 - Oct 14 with 1028 viewsKilkennyjack

Well done Professor Drakeford.



Its just fecking common sense isn’t it..... 🤷‍♂️

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Drakeford man up on 23:01 - Oct 14 with 1017 viewsmajorraglan

Drakeford man up on 19:40 - Oct 14 by Catullus

It makes sense to stop people from any hotspot travelling anywhere else though, it should be done nationally surely? It's a Bojo failing if he won't do that.


Indeed. It’s doesn't make sense that someone returning from a holiday in a Covid19 hotspot has to quarantine but someone living in an area of the England where there is a high incidence of Covid (potentially higher than some of the countries on the quarantine list) is free to travel to Wales and take a holiday. The economy needs to be open, but in a sensible manner.

Boris has dissension in his camp and is trying to keep his party on side. I get the impression he’s not particularly keen on making unpopular decisions.
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Drakeford man up on 08:46 - Oct 15 with 978 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Drakeford man up on 23:01 - Oct 14 by majorraglan

Indeed. It’s doesn't make sense that someone returning from a holiday in a Covid19 hotspot has to quarantine but someone living in an area of the England where there is a high incidence of Covid (potentially higher than some of the countries on the quarantine list) is free to travel to Wales and take a holiday. The economy needs to be open, but in a sensible manner.

Boris has dissension in his camp and is trying to keep his party on side. I get the impression he’s not particularly keen on making unpopular decisions.
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Labour's is in total disarray about what should be done.

Starmer 2 week total lockdown everywhere.
Drakeford much longer lockdown in most of Wales.
Liverpool's labour mayor complaining that tier 3 lockdown is so unfair.
Manchester's labour mayor threatening legal action if tier 3 lockdown is introduced in Manchester despite the virus being out of control, while Drakeford is banning anyone from Liverpool or Manchester visiting Wales.

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Drakeford man up on 10:02 - Oct 15 with 962 viewsDr_Winston

Drakeford man up on 09:46 - Oct 13 by Catullus

I'll take Faye every time thank you, you can keep Ian if you like him so much


Now I think we need to protect the economy too but if Drakeford believes he can and should close the border, why is he fannying around like a limp lettuce? Maybe it's because he is. He's a lame duck.

If there are rules in England that say don't leave your area and people are travelling out of their area to Wales then the police can and should step in.
The police have powers and should act, like they did in Norwich,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-54511643

Like they apparently have with people travelling out of area to MacArthur Glen too.

It doesn't matter if I agree with Drakeford or not, if he believes he should do something and he's given Bojo a warning, then he should act. If he's not strong enough then he should step down and let someone who is strong take over. At this point I'd take Liz Saville-Roberts or Drakeford! THough I wouldn't take Gething, he's just as useless.


Drakeford has the power to close the borders if he likes. Just as he had the power to introduce lockdown sooner in March if he wanted. His problem is that he wants Johnson to do it for him so he can dodge the blame for any downside and point the finger at the dastardly English.

It's fairly obvious what he's doing, but these days you'd have to be a bit twp to fall for it.

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Drakeford man up on 10:15 - Oct 15 with 956 viewsonehunglow

Have to say it but Winston makes a very good point there.

It would benefit this country if we abandoned class war,which is still endemic in this country.

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Drakeford man up on 10:21 - Oct 15 with 953 viewscontroversial_jack

Drakeford man up on 10:02 - Oct 15 by Dr_Winston

Drakeford has the power to close the borders if he likes. Just as he had the power to introduce lockdown sooner in March if he wanted. His problem is that he wants Johnson to do it for him so he can dodge the blame for any downside and point the finger at the dastardly English.

It's fairly obvious what he's doing, but these days you'd have to be a bit twp to fall for it.


Politicians, trying to cover their arses, whatever next?
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Drakeford man up on 17:20 - Oct 15 with 914 viewsAndy1300

Drakeford man up on 10:21 - Oct 15 by controversial_jack

Politicians, trying to cover their arses, whatever next?


And getting away with breaking the rules/laws by travelling 400 miles whilst covid positive

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Drakeford man up on 18:42 - Oct 15 with 880 views1964white

Good to see someone stand up to Boris the clown

Well done Mark Drakeford in keeping your people safe
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Drakeford man up on 18:58 - Oct 15 with 866 viewsonehunglow

Im staying well clear of Leeds myself.

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Drakeford man up on 19:45 - Oct 15 with 848 viewsCatullus

Drakeford man up on 10:02 - Oct 15 by Dr_Winston

Drakeford has the power to close the borders if he likes. Just as he had the power to introduce lockdown sooner in March if he wanted. His problem is that he wants Johnson to do it for him so he can dodge the blame for any downside and point the finger at the dastardly English.

It's fairly obvious what he's doing, but these days you'd have to be a bit twp to fall for it.


Thing is, as we know now, the police say this in unenforceable and as there are so many back routes into Wales, what happens next?

People will keep on doing what they're doing with little to no consequences probably.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Drakeford man up on 20:40 - Oct 15 with 833 viewsBoundy

Drakeford man up on 22:37 - Oct 14 by Kilkennyjack

Well done Professor Drakeford.



Its just fecking common sense isn’t it..... 🤷‍♂️


Yes it is so why didn't it happen before now ?

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Drakeford man up on 20:44 - Oct 15 with 824 viewsmajorraglan

Drakeford man up on 20:40 - Oct 15 by Boundy

Yes it is so why didn't it happen before now ?


Probably because he doesn’t control the purse strings and can’t afford to cheese Boris off too much.
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Drakeford man up on 21:05 - Oct 15 with 805 viewsBoundy

Drakeford man up on 20:44 - Oct 15 by majorraglan

Probably because he doesn’t control the purse strings and can’t afford to cheese Boris off too much.


Sometimes you have to have the courage of your convictions to make stand , its been at least 3 weeks since Drakeford starting locking down Wales and the infection rate has continued to rise , I wonder how many "tourists" may have added to those figures,

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Drakeford man up on 21:59 - Oct 15 with 789 viewsWhiterockin

Drakeford man up on 21:05 - Oct 15 by Boundy

Sometimes you have to have the courage of your convictions to make stand , its been at least 3 weeks since Drakeford starting locking down Wales and the infection rate has continued to rise , I wonder how many "tourists" may have added to those figures,


Drakford to announce tomorrow full Welsh lock down from Monday for 2 weeks?
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Drakeford man up on 22:02 - Oct 15 with 780 viewsAndy1300

Drakeford man up on 21:59 - Oct 15 by Whiterockin

Drakford to announce tomorrow full Welsh lock down from Monday for 2 weeks?


I hope that applies to our corrupt MS’s in that fake bay

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Drakeford man up on 10:02 - Oct 16 with 710 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Drakeford man up on 21:05 - Oct 15 by Boundy

Sometimes you have to have the courage of your convictions to make stand , its been at least 3 weeks since Drakeford starting locking down Wales and the infection rate has continued to rise , I wonder how many "tourists" may have added to those figures,


I think all the evidence shows the virus is spreading amongst the welsh population and not tourist. How do the explain why it is so low in the tourist areas of pembrokeshire.

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Drakeford man up on 12:14 - Oct 16 with 692 viewsBoundy

Drakeford man up on 10:02 - Oct 16 by felixstowe_jack

I think all the evidence shows the virus is spreading amongst the welsh population and not tourist. How do the explain why it is so low in the tourist areas of pembrokeshire.


I really don't know but I do know that I was prevented from staying in my sited caravan 3weeks agoin Pembrokeshire but the guy from Solihull and others weren't . whether that's the case now it probably is . I'm not wishing to deny anyone chance of a break but this has been a cluster8888 , not helped by the point scoring from all sides of the political divide

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Drakeford man up on 12:19 - Oct 16 with 687 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Drakeford man up on 12:14 - Oct 16 by Boundy

I really don't know but I do know that I was prevented from staying in my sited caravan 3weeks agoin Pembrokeshire but the guy from Solihull and others weren't . whether that's the case now it probably is . I'm not wishing to deny anyone chance of a break but this has been a cluster8888 , not helped by the point scoring from all sides of the political divide


That's because Swansea is under local restrictions but Solihull isn't. The Welsh Government were encouraging people from low infected areas of England such as the south west to visit low infected areas of Wales such as Pembrokeshire to boost Welsh tourism only last week.

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Drakeford man up on 16:30 - Oct 16 with 647 viewsonehunglow

It follows people from high virus areas in Wales stay out of low areas in England. Shut the Bridges

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