| Transfer balance last two windows 22:51 - Feb 19 with 3225 views | builthjack |
Swansea 14th most profitable in world football over the last 2 transfer windows.
£39 m in.
£0.5 m out.
That's what it says. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 09:52 - Feb 20 with 2516 views | jackjackjackjack |
Probably had the biggest drop in revenue in world football though. |  |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 10:13 - Feb 20 with 2487 views | Thornburyswan |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 09:52 - Feb 20 by jackjackjackjack |
Probably had the biggest drop in revenue in world football though. |
Unfortunately you might be right & suspect we have more to come so expect us to keep moving up that league table after the next window! | | | |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 10:24 - Feb 20 with 2468 views | jack247 |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 09:52 - Feb 20 by jackjackjackjack |
Probably had the biggest drop in revenue in world football though. |
It’s not so much the revenue drop, other teams have been relegated over the last two seasons. It’s the fact the drop in expenditure didn’t correlate to it.
There will be very few, if any, legacy PL players here next season. Be interesting to see how the club approach the transfer windows. | | | |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 12:16 - Feb 20 with 2374 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 10:24 - Feb 20 by jack247 |
It’s not so much the revenue drop, other teams have been relegated over the last two seasons. It’s the fact the drop in expenditure didn’t correlate to it.
There will be very few, if any, legacy PL players here next season. Be interesting to see how the club approach the transfer windows. |
If it's anything like this years, then there is no point in having Andy Scott on payroll. |  | | |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 13:26 - Feb 20 with 2270 views | monmouth |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 12:16 - Feb 20 by 34dfgdf54 |
If it's anything like this years, then there is no point in having Andy Scott on payroll. |
He's got to be there to support a summer rebuild when the overpaid johnnies are exited. It makes no sense otherwise.
No one reading those recent accounts can have expected anything different can they? Without that transfer surplus, McBurnie on top, and probably one or two future ones to come, we simply would not be a going concern.
The problem, like with most championship clubs, is when the cupboard is bare of saleable assets. There's a real crunch coming below the PL in the next 3-5 years in my opinion. Sad to say, but we might actually be better as a solvent league one club watching from the sidelines at the time, but I would maybe expect us to have a (last? for a while at least) crack at going up next season. |  |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 13:30 - Feb 20 with 2264 views | KGriz16 |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 12:16 - Feb 20 by 34dfgdf54 |
If it's anything like this years, then there is no point in having Andy Scott on payroll. |
Didn't Leon say we'll see the results of the transfer panel come this Summer. I'd like to sit and wait, then judge. Although, I do understand fans' reservations. However, our wage bill should be obsolete come the Summer. Which, coming from 80/90% , is incredible. |  | | |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 13:33 - Feb 20 with 2261 views | Badlands |
All the more reason to invest in the academy.
Had Cooper used it fully rather than bring in ''his' babes it's reputation would have remained high and we would have players ready for next season. |  |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 13:47 - Feb 20 with 2238 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 13:30 - Feb 20 by KGriz16 |
Didn't Leon say we'll see the results of the transfer panel come this Summer. I'd like to sit and wait, then judge. Although, I do understand fans' reservations. However, our wage bill should be obsolete come the Summer. Which, coming from 80/90% , is incredible. |
I prefer it when you're like this. You seem an intelligent chap.
Yeah he did say that, I actually think we will be busy this summer and Andy Scott has been busy identifying targets. I'm a bit concerned about Cooper being the one in charge of an upheaval like this though. | | | |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 14:23 - Feb 20 with 2210 views | monmouth |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 13:47 - Feb 20 by 34dfgdf54 |
I prefer it when you're like this. You seem an intelligent chap.
Yeah he did say that, I actually think we will be busy this summer and Andy Scott has been busy identifying targets. I'm a bit concerned about Cooper being the one in charge of an upheaval like this though. |
I don't think he is in charge of it. He's head coach. I think these loans were a halfhearted 'push' at play offs. It seems to have backfired so far as it has got stuck in Gluehi. [Post edited 20 Feb 2020 14:39]
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 21:33 - Feb 20 with 2069 views | Catullus |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 13:26 - Feb 20 by monmouth |
He's got to be there to support a summer rebuild when the overpaid johnnies are exited. It makes no sense otherwise.
No one reading those recent accounts can have expected anything different can they? Without that transfer surplus, McBurnie on top, and probably one or two future ones to come, we simply would not be a going concern.
The problem, like with most championship clubs, is when the cupboard is bare of saleable assets. There's a real crunch coming below the PL in the next 3-5 years in my opinion. Sad to say, but we might actually be better as a solvent league one club watching from the sidelines at the time, but I would maybe expect us to have a (last? for a while at least) crack at going up next season. |
I agree with you. I think there are plenty of clubs heading for trouble and maybe several teetering on the brink.
I've made noises before about the EPL and the knock on effects it has had. It's like the big clubs are trying to close down smaller clubs so they can hover up more support.
FFP favours the status quo amongst the big teams and htis thing with Man city, whilst I agree with it, there are several other "big" clubs that are just as guilty but somehow escaping punishment. PSG, Real Madrid, they seem to get away with murder.
If we are a financially viable club that'll have to be good enough for everyone, better that than do a 'Bury' | |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 21:59 - Feb 20 with 2045 views | NotLoyal |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 13:30 - Feb 20 by KGriz16 |
Didn't Leon say we'll see the results of the transfer panel come this Summer. I'd like to sit and wait, then judge. Although, I do understand fans' reservations. However, our wage bill should be obsolete come the Summer. Which, coming from 80/90% , is incredible. |
You've mentioned the problem Leon. As fine a servant he was to the club kicking a ball something is telling me his financial nouse and prowess can only be rivalled by neath Jack's knowledge on...
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 02:59 - Feb 21 with 1953 views | TimTtam |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 13:26 - Feb 20 by monmouth |
He's got to be there to support a summer rebuild when the overpaid johnnies are exited. It makes no sense otherwise.
No one reading those recent accounts can have expected anything different can they? Without that transfer surplus, McBurnie on top, and probably one or two future ones to come, we simply would not be a going concern.
The problem, like with most championship clubs, is when the cupboard is bare of saleable assets. There's a real crunch coming below the PL in the next 3-5 years in my opinion. Sad to say, but we might actually be better as a solvent league one club watching from the sidelines at the time, but I would maybe expect us to have a (last? for a while at least) crack at going up next season. |
The way I see it, unless we unearth another saleable asset from the academy, we'll eventually be left with a team with no stars & will be in a relegation battle starting from 2021/22. To me it's inevitable that we will go down to League 1 before making it back (if ever) to the PL. Look at the likes of Charlton, Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, Portsmouth, & Sunderland going back to League 1/2.
The big question will be can we get back to the Championship quickly? If we can't then our revenue drops significantly yet again, and at best we end up as a yoyo club like Rotherham who can't handle the step up. |  |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 03:49 - Feb 21 with 1941 views | dameedna |
Rotherham.
What a prospect. |  | | |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 07:47 - Feb 21 with 1871 views | Dr_Winston |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 02:59 - Feb 21 by TimTtam |
The way I see it, unless we unearth another saleable asset from the academy, we'll eventually be left with a team with no stars & will be in a relegation battle starting from 2021/22. To me it's inevitable that we will go down to League 1 before making it back (if ever) to the PL. Look at the likes of Charlton, Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, Portsmouth, & Sunderland going back to League 1/2.
The big question will be can we get back to the Championship quickly? If we can't then our revenue drops significantly yet again, and at best we end up as a yoyo club like Rotherham who can't handle the step up. |
Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, Portsmouth and Sunderland all had massive financial issues (not sure about Charlton). If we hadn't done what we have then comparison to them would be more than justified. We've taken the steps we have specifically to avoid those situations.
We're doing exactly what we should never have stopped doing. Keep costs within the clubs ability to pay them and working the market to find smart purchases, not expensive ones. If things are as bad with other clubs as most people seem to think being financially solvent and able to pick up bargains would put us in a stronger position, not a weaker one. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 08:15 - Feb 21 with 1856 views | builthjack |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 07:47 - Feb 21 by Dr_Winston |
Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, Portsmouth and Sunderland all had massive financial issues (not sure about Charlton). If we hadn't done what we have then comparison to them would be more than justified. We've taken the steps we have specifically to avoid those situations.
We're doing exactly what we should never have stopped doing. Keep costs within the clubs ability to pay them and working the market to find smart purchases, not expensive ones. If things are as bad with other clubs as most people seem to think being financially solvent and able to pick up bargains would put us in a stronger position, not a weaker one. |
Being able to pick up bargains is crucial.
We have signed a lot of duds in the last few years.
That has to improve significantly. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 09:29 - Feb 21 with 1804 views | TimTtam |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 07:47 - Feb 21 by Dr_Winston |
Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, Portsmouth and Sunderland all had massive financial issues (not sure about Charlton). If we hadn't done what we have then comparison to them would be more than justified. We've taken the steps we have specifically to avoid those situations.
We're doing exactly what we should never have stopped doing. Keep costs within the clubs ability to pay them and working the market to find smart purchases, not expensive ones. If things are as bad with other clubs as most people seem to think being financially solvent and able to pick up bargains would put us in a stronger position, not a weaker one. |
No question we've taken the sensible option financially, but taking away August, our results would put us in a relegation battle. And that's with Ayew in the team. He'll be gone at season's end if we don't get promoted.
It's a make it or break it transfer window coming up. Some smart signings could put us in a solid position, but there are no guarantees we don't make bad ones. And we need some permanent signings. | |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 10:01 - Feb 21 with 1786 views | Dr_Winston |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 09:29 - Feb 21 by TimTtam |
No question we've taken the sensible option financially, but taking away August, our results would put us in a relegation battle. And that's with Ayew in the team. He'll be gone at season's end if we don't get promoted.
It's a make it or break it transfer window coming up. Some smart signings could put us in a solid position, but there are no guarantees we don't make bad ones. And we need some permanent signings. |
Suppose it depends on whether you believe that our current malaise is down to players or management (or both I suppose).
A good manager will get above average performances out of average players. A bad manager will make good players worse and then blame them for it | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 11:24 - Feb 21 with 1741 views | jack247 |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 10:01 - Feb 21 by Dr_Winston |
Suppose it depends on whether you believe that our current malaise is down to players or management (or both I suppose).
A good manager will get above average performances out of average players. A bad manager will make good players worse and then blame them for it |
Perfect summary of the last 18 months or so | | | |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 22:40 - Feb 21 with 1610 views | Catullus |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 02:59 - Feb 21 by TimTtam |
The way I see it, unless we unearth another saleable asset from the academy, we'll eventually be left with a team with no stars & will be in a relegation battle starting from 2021/22. To me it's inevitable that we will go down to League 1 before making it back (if ever) to the PL. Look at the likes of Charlton, Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, Portsmouth, & Sunderland going back to League 1/2.
The big question will be can we get back to the Championship quickly? If we can't then our revenue drops significantly yet again, and at best we end up as a yoyo club like Rotherham who can't handle the step up. |
As the song says, you've got to know when to hold, know when to fold, know when to walk away and know when to run.
Those other clubs who keep on gambling are storing up more and more trouble and the tipping point my well be fast approaching. It sounds unlikely to many on here now but in a few years we may be looking back on our Yankee owners with much more favour then we talk of them now.
Take Villa, they'd incurred large debt before promotion, what if they come straight back down? | |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 23:31 - Feb 21 with 1574 views | Fireboy2 |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 10:01 - Feb 21 by Dr_Winston |
Suppose it depends on whether you believe that our current malaise is down to players or management (or both I suppose).
A good manager will get above average performances out of average players. A bad manager will make good players worse and then blame them for it |
Your last sentence sums us up to a tee.
If we had mowbray or neill we would be challenging in the top 2 no doubt. |  | | |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 09:45 - Feb 22 with 1523 views | Dr_Winston |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 23:31 - Feb 21 by Fireboy2 |
Your last sentence sums us up to a tee.
If we had mowbray or neill we would be challenging in the top 2 no doubt. |
The squad we have should be capable of far better performances than we've been seeing since September. Cooper is fast running out of excuses. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 10:00 - Feb 22 with 1509 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 08:15 - Feb 21 by builthjack |
Being able to pick up bargains is crucial.
We have signed a lot of duds in the last few years.
That has to improve significantly. |
Well it must be said that if we hadn’t resigned Bony, Ayew , not purchased of Clucas and the other misfits we’d be favourites to have bounced back first attempt (maybe not have been relegated at all). |  |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 10:11 - Feb 22 with 1498 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 09:45 - Feb 22 by Dr_Winston |
The squad we have should be capable of far better performances than we've been seeing since September. Cooper is fast running out of excuses. |
Yes, not sure he gets the best out of people. |  |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 10:14 - Feb 22 with 1493 views | Catullus |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 10:00 - Feb 22 by Brynmill_Jack |
Well it must be said that if we hadn’t resigned Bony, Ayew , not purchased of Clucas and the other misfits we’d be favourites to have bounced back first attempt (maybe not have been relegated at all). |
I think relegation would still have happened but we'd have been in a much stronger financial position. We may have been able to gamble that first season ongoing back up and let Potter buy some players.
Maybe though, if we hadn't signed those 3 but had signed Allen things might have been different. | |
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| Transfer balance last two windows on 10:29 - Feb 22 with 1475 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Transfer balance last two windows on 10:14 - Feb 22 by Catullus |
I think relegation would still have happened but we'd have been in a much stronger financial position. We may have been able to gamble that first season ongoing back up and let Potter buy some players.
Maybe though, if we hadn't signed those 3 but had signed Allen things might have been different. |
I can’t disagree with that view at all. Especially if the figure of 8 million was true. Huw, you absolute tw@t | |
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