| General election looming? 19:49 - Oct 22 with 28282 views | Daley_Lama |
Who would people vote in in Rochdale?
Lab? A bloke who has voted against every single attempt to deliver Brexit?
Lib: A bloke or woman who would do the same?
Tory? In Rochdale?
I reckon this town could actually vote in a Farage candidate if a general election was called. |  |
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| General election looming? on 13:27 - Oct 25 with 2552 views | judd |
| General election looming? on 13:15 - Oct 25 by BigDaveMyCock |
I doubt very much the EU will grant the UK access to the single market without any costs associated with its upkeep. Unless of course you believe in magically reappearing cakes. |
Mutually beneficial terms is my belief. |  |
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| General election looming? on 13:36 - Oct 25 with 2533 views | D_Alien |
| General election looming? on 13:18 - Oct 25 by BigDaveMyCock |
Open minded people tend to read beyond the first line.
And not render what they don’t understand as irrelevant. [Post edited 25 Oct 2019 13:36]
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It went straight through my bowels |  |
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| General election looming? on 13:41 - Oct 25 with 2529 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| General election looming? on 13:36 - Oct 25 by D_Alien |
It went straight through my bowels |
I did suspect it would be too much for the brain.
It was good shit. |  |
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| General election looming? on 13:57 - Oct 25 with 2493 views | D_Alien |
| General election looming? on 13:41 - Oct 25 by BigDaveMyCock |
I did suspect it would be too much for the brain.
It was good shit. |
"... you’re trying to convince yourself more than anything else." [9.22]
"How have i told you what you think?" [10.21]
Who has a problem with comprehension?
But no matter. For some considerable time, you've been labouring under the misapprehension that people have to provide YOU with comprehensive answers to your desperate questions - desperate in the sense that the thinking of those who voted Leave renders you in a state of bewilderment, and even at this stage you're still searching for answers that've been clearly defined throughout the past three years, in the HoC, in the media including on here on many, many occasions
It's become repetitive beyond tedium. An interesting debate opened up yesterday regarding the potential for future political realignment, something which i'm prepared to fully engage with since it's moving us on. I suggest you do the same
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| General election looming? on 14:12 - Oct 25 with 2487 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| General election looming? on 13:57 - Oct 25 by D_Alien |
"... you’re trying to convince yourself more than anything else." [9.22]
"How have i told you what you think?" [10.21]
Who has a problem with comprehension?
But no matter. For some considerable time, you've been labouring under the misapprehension that people have to provide YOU with comprehensive answers to your desperate questions - desperate in the sense that the thinking of those who voted Leave renders you in a state of bewilderment, and even at this stage you're still searching for answers that've been clearly defined throughout the past three years, in the HoC, in the media including on here on many, many occasions
It's become repetitive beyond tedium. An interesting debate opened up yesterday regarding the potential for future political realignment, something which i'm prepared to fully engage with since it's moving us on. I suggest you do the same
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You’re flouncing again.
Nobody has to provide ME with anything. If they can’t answer rudimentary questions about something they want then it’s not unreasonable for me to draw conclusions from that is it? By the way, you’ve still not engaged with the post have you? [Post edited 25 Oct 2019 14:20]
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| General election looming? on 14:13 - Oct 25 with 2471 views | D_Alien |
| General election looming? on 14:12 - Oct 25 by BigDaveMyCock |
You’re flouncing again.
Nobody has to provide ME with anything. If they can’t answer rudimentary questions about something they want then it’s not unreasonable for me to draw conclusions from that is it? By the way, you’ve still not engaged with the post have you? [Post edited 25 Oct 2019 14:20]
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Whatever... 
Edit: no, still haven't bothered reading it. Can you give me a precis?
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| General election looming? on 14:20 - Oct 25 with 2466 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| General election looming? on 13:27 - Oct 25 by judd |
Mutually beneficial terms is my belief. |
You could very well be right. However, I would caution that these arguments were forwarded in 2016. We’re three and a half years down the line and on our third prime minister, the EU has issued its second extension and we still haven’t even enacted a withdrawal agreement yet. | |
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| General election looming? on 14:23 - Oct 25 with 2440 views | D_Alien |
| General election looming? on 14:22 - Oct 25 by BigDaveMyCock |
Very open-minded. |
Is that the precis? | |
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| General election looming? on 14:28 - Oct 25 with 2434 views | judd |
| General election looming? on 14:20 - Oct 25 by BigDaveMyCock |
You could very well be right. However, I would caution that these arguments were forwarded in 2016. We’re three and a half years down the line and on our third prime minister, the EU has issued its second extension and we still haven’t even enacted a withdrawal agreement yet. |
We are where we are, unforgivably so.
I am untroubled by the shape of the trade deal, just the time being taken.
Many of our customers and suppliers are based both in Europe and beyond. None wants to cease trading with us. I expect that will be the prevailing sentiment whatever the industry.
I do think agriculture and fishing will have major losses and gains and will be a troublesome debate, but I expect a lot of the groundwork has been done behind the scenes in case a hot head like me is elevated to chief decision maker in taking the UK out as required by the binding result of the referendum. | |
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| General election looming? on 14:51 - Oct 25 with 2418 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| General election looming? on 14:28 - Oct 25 by judd |
We are where we are, unforgivably so.
I am untroubled by the shape of the trade deal, just the time being taken.
Many of our customers and suppliers are based both in Europe and beyond. None wants to cease trading with us. I expect that will be the prevailing sentiment whatever the industry.
I do think agriculture and fishing will have major losses and gains and will be a troublesome debate, but I expect a lot of the groundwork has been done behind the scenes in case a hot head like me is elevated to chief decision maker in taking the UK out as required by the binding result of the referendum. |
The problem will arise when we’re presented with a trade deal that says sure you can have access to the single market but you must follow our standards (e.g consumer or foodstuffs). What has been clear is that we will not be allowed to undercut EU standards in any arrangement with them. That is why they have been more than happy to shift some of the alignments in respect of standards to the political declaration. They know full well that Johnson is likely to try and undercut these but they’ll just say fine we won’t trade in those goods etc. unless you align yourself to our standards.
Anyway, the problem will be Brexiters will say hang on this is just like being in the EU!! To trade with them we have to adopt THEIR standards. We didn’t vote for this and the whole fooking shit show will continue.
I think you’ll be an excellent negotiator. Just don’t take DAlien with you what with his guts n’all. | |
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| General election looming? on 15:01 - Oct 25 with 2393 views | D_Alien |
| General election looming? on 14:51 - Oct 25 by BigDaveMyCock |
The problem will arise when we’re presented with a trade deal that says sure you can have access to the single market but you must follow our standards (e.g consumer or foodstuffs). What has been clear is that we will not be allowed to undercut EU standards in any arrangement with them. That is why they have been more than happy to shift some of the alignments in respect of standards to the political declaration. They know full well that Johnson is likely to try and undercut these but they’ll just say fine we won’t trade in those goods etc. unless you align yourself to our standards.
Anyway, the problem will be Brexiters will say hang on this is just like being in the EU!! To trade with them we have to adopt THEIR standards. We didn’t vote for this and the whole fooking shit show will continue.
I think you’ll be an excellent negotiator. Just don’t take DAlien with you what with his guts n’all. |
Oooooohhh!!
Flouncey, flouncey, flouncey... | |
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| General election looming? on 15:11 - Oct 25 with 2393 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| General election looming? on 15:01 - Oct 25 by D_Alien |
Oooooohhh!!
Flouncey, flouncey, flouncey... |
DAlien, the grown ups are talking. | |
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| General election looming? on 16:31 - Oct 25 with 2342 views | D_Alien |
| General election looming? on 15:11 - Oct 25 by BigDaveMyCock |
DAlien, the grown ups are talking. |
They spoke yesterday about wider issues than your narrow focus on trade deals, perhaps you might care to join in something of wider interest?
And anyone with a flounce of common sense knows its your typical retort, not mine | |
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| General election looming? on 16:53 - Oct 25 with 2329 views | judd |
| General election looming? on 14:51 - Oct 25 by BigDaveMyCock |
The problem will arise when we’re presented with a trade deal that says sure you can have access to the single market but you must follow our standards (e.g consumer or foodstuffs). What has been clear is that we will not be allowed to undercut EU standards in any arrangement with them. That is why they have been more than happy to shift some of the alignments in respect of standards to the political declaration. They know full well that Johnson is likely to try and undercut these but they’ll just say fine we won’t trade in those goods etc. unless you align yourself to our standards.
Anyway, the problem will be Brexiters will say hang on this is just like being in the EU!! To trade with them we have to adopt THEIR standards. We didn’t vote for this and the whole fooking shit show will continue.
I think you’ll be an excellent negotiator. Just don’t take DAlien with you what with his guts n’all. |
I cannot see why the UK (in terms of a trade deal) would not be arguing from a position of considerable strength. We are a hugely desirable trading partner for anyone to either sell to or buy from.
I doubt very much that the might of Luxembourg will trump the economic interests of the big players when it comes to wanting to trade with the UK.
European standards, certainly in my industry, are perfectly fine to adhere to in that the UK has had significant input into their design. Granted, if you are a banana or pork pie salesman you may not agree.
I have to keep harking back to the simplicity of the question asked on the referendum paper and the two clear options available. | |
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| General election looming? on 20:32 - Oct 25 with 2274 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| General election looming? on 16:53 - Oct 25 by judd |
I cannot see why the UK (in terms of a trade deal) would not be arguing from a position of considerable strength. We are a hugely desirable trading partner for anyone to either sell to or buy from.
I doubt very much that the might of Luxembourg will trump the economic interests of the big players when it comes to wanting to trade with the UK.
European standards, certainly in my industry, are perfectly fine to adhere to in that the UK has had significant input into their design. Granted, if you are a banana or pork pie salesman you may not agree.
I have to keep harking back to the simplicity of the question asked on the referendum paper and the two clear options available. |
Fair enough. You’re a full on leaver now.
I just can’t help but think of that film, Superman 3. The bit where Superman goes bad and smashes them bottles in that pub by flicking nuts at them and where he rips a hole in that oil tanker for no reason resulting in oil splilling into the sea and probably killing innocent seagulls and fish and that.
...oh why am I falling apart?
I just hope that one day the good will jump out of the bad and the good has a fight with the bad and wins, in a scrap yard (it works on so many levels). And you repair that oil tanker by welding it with yours eyes. I’m not sure if he replaced the bottles.
One day I’ll hope you come back and throw the evil Emperor (DAlien) with his lightning coming out of guts into that hole.
...I knew him so well, bright eyes.
I may have got some of the films and music a bit mixed up but that doesn’t detract from the seriousness of the post. [Post edited 25 Oct 2019 20:42]
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| General election looming? on 20:35 - Oct 25 with 2270 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| General election looming? on 16:31 - Oct 25 by D_Alien |
They spoke yesterday about wider issues than your narrow focus on trade deals, perhaps you might care to join in something of wider interest?
And anyone with a flounce of common sense knows its your typical retort, not mine |
Is gammon measured in flounces? | |
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| General election looming? on 21:07 - Oct 25 with 2243 views | tony_roch975 |
| General election looming? on 16:53 - Oct 25 by judd |
I cannot see why the UK (in terms of a trade deal) would not be arguing from a position of considerable strength. We are a hugely desirable trading partner for anyone to either sell to or buy from.
I doubt very much that the might of Luxembourg will trump the economic interests of the big players when it comes to wanting to trade with the UK.
European standards, certainly in my industry, are perfectly fine to adhere to in that the UK has had significant input into their design. Granted, if you are a banana or pork pie salesman you may not agree.
I have to keep harking back to the simplicity of the question asked on the referendum paper and the two clear options available. |
Undoubtedly Leave must be implemented whatever the consequences. The idea that 'we' all benefit equally from economic growth fails the study of history. Any growth from Brexit (as well as counteracting the lost EU trade arising from diverging regulations) will arise from becoming more 'competitive' globally - lowering our costs and standards i.e. less workers, lower wages, less rights, more insecurity. The gap between rich & poor has grown inexorably since 1979 when it was the lowest in our history. The wealth of the 'free market' is grown on the backs of the dispossessed - ask the ex-mining & steel communities or the delivery drivers of the digital economy. | |
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| General election looming? on 21:08 - Oct 25 with 2242 views | mikehunt |
| General election looming? on 14:51 - Oct 25 by BigDaveMyCock |
The problem will arise when we’re presented with a trade deal that says sure you can have access to the single market but you must follow our standards (e.g consumer or foodstuffs). What has been clear is that we will not be allowed to undercut EU standards in any arrangement with them. That is why they have been more than happy to shift some of the alignments in respect of standards to the political declaration. They know full well that Johnson is likely to try and undercut these but they’ll just say fine we won’t trade in those goods etc. unless you align yourself to our standards.
Anyway, the problem will be Brexiters will say hang on this is just like being in the EU!! To trade with them we have to adopt THEIR standards. We didn’t vote for this and the whole fooking shit show will continue.
I think you’ll be an excellent negotiator. Just don’t take DAlien with you what with his guts n’all. |
Why on earth would we want to undercut their standards? All our manufacturing etc. is already geared up to conform to to these standards. It would make no sense to dumb down unless we really are hell bent on becoming a Banana Republic.
A lot of British Standards are the basis of Euro and International norms. This should be the minimum working practice we adhere to. We should be looking to improve on these standards, if anything, to make our goods better than others. |  |
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| General election looming? on 21:32 - Oct 25 with 2222 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| General election looming? on 21:08 - Oct 25 by mikehunt |
Why on earth would we want to undercut their standards? All our manufacturing etc. is already geared up to conform to to these standards. It would make no sense to dumb down unless we really are hell bent on becoming a Banana Republic.
A lot of British Standards are the basis of Euro and International norms. This should be the minimum working practice we adhere to. We should be looking to improve on these standards, if anything, to make our goods better than others. |
I suggest you read ‘Britannia Unchained’ by Chris Skidmore and Kwarsi Kwarteng and backed by most of the current cabinet, in particular Raab and Patel. EU standards really are seen as the scourge of UK global competitiveness. [Post edited 25 Oct 2019 23:18]
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| General election looming? on 00:23 - Oct 26 with 2162 views | D_Alien |
| General election looming? on 20:35 - Oct 25 by BigDaveMyCock |
Is gammon measured in flounces? |
I dunno, you're the resident expert | |
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| General election looming? on 21:04 - Oct 28 with 2021 views | James1980 |
So what's going to happen next in the soap opera then | |
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| General election looming? on 22:06 - Oct 28 with 1958 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| General election looming? on 21:04 - Oct 28 by James1980 |
So what's going to happen next in the soap opera then |
If the last three and a half years are anything to go by, usually the exact opposite of what DAlien predicts. [Post edited 28 Oct 2019 22:06]
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| General election looming? on 22:20 - Oct 28 with 1930 views | D_Alien |
| General election looming? on 22:06 - Oct 28 by BigDaveMyCock |
If the last three and a half years are anything to go by, usually the exact opposite of what DAlien predicts. [Post edited 28 Oct 2019 22:06]
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I predict you'll finally post summat positive, insightful and life-enhancing | |
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