| Borja - Change of Heart 16:46 - Jul 20 with 26701 views | Magic_Michu |
Is it a change of heart from both Swansea and Borja himself with him having a future at the club?
We certainly need a new striker... if we’re struggling to offload Borja... he might as well be play for us. Rather keep him than give him away for peanuts.
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| Borja - good pace on him on 21:08 - Jul 24 with 2386 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Borja - good pace on him on 20:14 - Jul 24 by Swanseaman |
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anyone notice Borja Bastons acceleration he made for the goal, really quick when he let rip:
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Pace up front in this league will give him a tremendous advantage. I hope him and McBurnie get 20+ each |  |
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| Borja - good pace on him on 21:14 - Jul 24 with 2362 views | Swanseaman |
| Borja - good pace on him on 21:08 - Jul 24 by Brynmill_Jack |
Pace up front in this league will give him a tremendous advantage. I hope him and McBurnie get 20+ each |
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i'd love it if they both stay with us for this season, would be a massive disappointment to all if we lose any of them -15 days to know for certain, fingers crossed.
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:17 - Jul 24 with 2350 views | marchamjack |
Birch has said very clearly he wants to offload Borja and that he’s the man in control of the club.
Birch has got til the end of August to offload him...another best part of 6 weeks.
So whatever we might hope/ think, Birch has made his position on Borja very clear. I’m not expecting him to be here unless Birch makes a new statement on him. |  |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:20 - Jul 24 with 2332 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:17 - Jul 24 by marchamjack |
Birch has said very clearly he wants to offload Borja and that he’s the man in control of the club.
Birch has got til the end of August to offload him...another best part of 6 weeks.
So whatever we might hope/ think, Birch has made his position on Borja very clear. I’m not expecting him to be here unless Birch makes a new statement on him. |
Surely there would be scope for his mind to change if we got both the Ayews off our books? | |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:21 - Jul 24 with 2324 views | Swanseaman |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:17 - Jul 24 by marchamjack |
Birch has said very clearly he wants to offload Borja and that he’s the man in control of the club.
Birch has got til the end of August to offload him...another best part of 6 weeks.
So whatever we might hope/ think, Birch has made his position on Borja very clear. I’m not expecting him to be here unless Birch makes a new statement on him. |
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august the 8th isn't it?
the latest news about him, is from cooper, he has said that if we don't manage to offload him, baston will be a part of our team -he is training for that scenario.
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:26 - Jul 24 with 2308 views | marchamjack |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:20 - Jul 24 by Brynmill_Jack |
Surely there would be scope for his mind to change if we got both the Ayews off our books? |
Hopefully there is, but til Birch says something different all we know so far is he’s working to get him out
Plus, Spain’s window is open til end of August | |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:29 - Jul 24 with 2296 views | Swanseaman |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:26 - Jul 24 by marchamjack |
Hopefully there is, but til Birch says something different all we know so far is he’s working to get him out
Plus, Spain’s window is open til end of August |
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if he's a player in the english league, doesn't that mean that after the 8th we can't let him go
or could a spanish club still come in for him, i'm confused?
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:29 - Jul 24 with 2296 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:26 - Jul 24 by marchamjack |
Hopefully there is, but til Birch says something different all we know so far is he’s working to get him out
Plus, Spain’s window is open til end of August |
There seems little or no interest. Only 4 or 5 clubs max could pay him that kind of money and they won’t want him. | |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:44 - Jul 24 with 2267 views | marchamjack |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:29 - Jul 24 by Swanseaman |
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if he's a player in the english league, doesn't that mean that after the 8th we can't let him go
or could a spanish club still come in for him, i'm confused?
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I think the position is we can’t buy in after the 8th ( no idea whether we can loan in) but can loan/sell out to any other club in Europe or China etc where their own window is still open beyond the 8th | |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:49 - Jul 24 with 2261 views | Thornburyswan |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:44 - Jul 24 by marchamjack |
I think the position is we can’t buy in after the 8th ( no idea whether we can loan in) but can loan/sell out to any other club in Europe or China etc where their own window is still open beyond the 8th |
Think we pls all the Prem & Championship clubs are done at 5PM on the 8th but sales & loans can be done across the rest of Europe plus lower leagues over here........ & can only see Baston going to Spain so it's still 6 week for him + Ayews/Montero & maybe MvdH.
PS most of the other windows Close on Sept 2nd, apart from Italian one which is August 23rd. [Post edited 24 Jul 2019 21:53]
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 00:05 - Jul 25 with 2104 views | Badlands |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 21:29 - Jul 24 by Swanseaman |
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if he's a player in the english league, doesn't that mean that after the 8th we can't let him go
or could a spanish club still come in for him, i'm confused?
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Teams can take players until their Football Association's window closes -
France, Germany, Spain, Netherlands - 2nd Sept.
Scotland, Turkey, Denmark 1st September
UK 9th August!!!
Loan window closes on same day as transfers. |  |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 00:18 - Jul 25 with 2086 views | majorraglan |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 00:05 - Jul 25 by Badlands |
Teams can take players until their Football Association's window closes -
France, Germany, Spain, Netherlands - 2nd Sept.
Scotland, Turkey, Denmark 1st September
UK 9th August!!!
Loan window closes on same day as transfers. |
This situation where different Associations have different cut off points is crazy, UEFA should intervene and mandate a closing date for transfers across the Confederation. It makes sense to close the windo before the season starts, but because of the delay English and Welsh teams are at a disadvantage. | | | |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 01:59 - Jul 25 with 2025 views | forkbeard |
Borja “liked” a tweet from this (translated) article confirming his clear intention he still wants out. No shocks there!
Allegedly back in fold purely down to showing his fitness.
https://www.marca.com/futbol/futbol-internacional/2019/07/24/5d3886b8ca47413d388
After having been assigned, last season, to Alavés, the striker returned to Swansea , club with which he has a contract until June 2020 . However, the intention of the striker is to leave the Welsh club , which is why he was, in recent weeks, away from the first team and training with the U23 team. [Post edited 25 Jul 2019 2:00]
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 06:42 - Jul 25 with 1940 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 01:59 - Jul 25 by forkbeard |
Borja “liked” a tweet from this (translated) article confirming his clear intention he still wants out. No shocks there!
Allegedly back in fold purely down to showing his fitness.
https://www.marca.com/futbol/futbol-internacional/2019/07/24/5d3886b8ca47413d388
After having been assigned, last season, to Alavés, the striker returned to Swansea , club with which he has a contract until June 2020 . However, the intention of the striker is to leave the Welsh club , which is why he was, in recent weeks, away from the first team and training with the U23 team. [Post edited 25 Jul 2019 2:00]
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Yes, but no one who can afford him wants him. So he might as well just get his head down and play football, unless he’s prepared for a big drop in income. If he’s really smart he’ll start banging them in and go for next to nothing come the January window. | |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 09:20 - Jul 25 with 1877 views | Badlands |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 01:59 - Jul 25 by forkbeard |
Borja “liked” a tweet from this (translated) article confirming his clear intention he still wants out. No shocks there!
Allegedly back in fold purely down to showing his fitness.
https://www.marca.com/futbol/futbol-internacional/2019/07/24/5d3886b8ca47413d388
After having been assigned, last season, to Alavés, the striker returned to Swansea , club with which he has a contract until June 2020 . However, the intention of the striker is to leave the Welsh club , which is why he was, in recent weeks, away from the first team and training with the U23 team. [Post edited 25 Jul 2019 2:00]
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With the under 23s to prove his fitness and attitude.
Job doen
In the senior team to get used to other players and to be in the shop window.
Have to say, even after just two cameo appearances I'd be more than happy for him to be back. Most defences in the Championship wouldn't cope. | |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 09:30 - Jul 25 with 1855 views | jackrmee |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 00:18 - Jul 25 by majorraglan |
This situation where different Associations have different cut off points is crazy, UEFA should intervene and mandate a closing date for transfers across the Confederation. It makes sense to close the windo before the season starts, but because of the delay English and Welsh teams are at a disadvantage. |
Different leagues start on different dates though, so how would they choose? |  |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 09:43 - Jul 25 with 1847 views | Dr_Winston |
The other thing to factor in is once we consider likely transfer/loan fees for anyone better than he is, keeping and integrating Borja into the team for this season might even work out as the cheaper option. |  |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 09:58 - Jul 25 with 1821 views | Jacket |
How much is he gonna cost us for the season? If he's still on £50k a week it's £2.6m. He seems to have only been linked with 2nd Division Spanish clubs, so the most they're realistically going to pay is possibly a million to half of that sum. So it's a case of paying £2.6m for a striker who's likely to do comparatively well at this level pr £1.6m to £1.3m for the square root of fack all. Keeping him may not be that outlandish. We must have paid Fer a similar sum.
Of course he may be on more than that, and any appetite he may have shown in the past two cameos may be because he's playing for a transfer. | | | |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 11:25 - Jul 25 with 1768 views | Swanseaman |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 09:58 - Jul 25 by Jacket |
How much is he gonna cost us for the season? If he's still on £50k a week it's £2.6m. He seems to have only been linked with 2nd Division Spanish clubs, so the most they're realistically going to pay is possibly a million to half of that sum. So it's a case of paying £2.6m for a striker who's likely to do comparatively well at this level pr £1.6m to £1.3m for the square root of fack all. Keeping him may not be that outlandish. We must have paid Fer a similar sum.
Of course he may be on more than that, and any appetite he may have shown in the past two cameos may be because he's playing for a transfer. |
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with the sale of j ayew, we can now afford to keep borja for this season, he's signed with us up until 11 August 2020.
if the only other options to loan him out, there's no point in that because he would still leave on a free at the end of the season.
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 11:43 - Jul 25 with 1735 views | jasper_T |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 09:30 - Jul 25 by jackrmee |
Different leagues start on different dates though, so how would they choose? |
Use Norway. Window closes at the end of March, opens again at the end of November. | | | |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 13:54 - Jul 25 with 1647 views | Badlands |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 09:58 - Jul 25 by Jacket |
How much is he gonna cost us for the season? If he's still on £50k a week it's £2.6m. He seems to have only been linked with 2nd Division Spanish clubs, so the most they're realistically going to pay is possibly a million to half of that sum. So it's a case of paying £2.6m for a striker who's likely to do comparatively well at this level pr £1.6m to £1.3m for the square root of fack all. Keeping him may not be that outlandish. We must have paid Fer a similar sum.
Of course he may be on more than that, and any appetite he may have shown in the past two cameos may be because he's playing for a transfer. |
Our loan signing from Brentford will cost roughly the same for the year. | |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 13:59 - Jul 25 with 1626 views | Badlands |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 00:18 - Jul 25 by majorraglan |
This situation where different Associations have different cut off points is crazy, UEFA should intervene and mandate a closing date for transfers across the Confederation. It makes sense to close the windo before the season starts, but because of the delay English and Welsh teams are at a disadvantage. |
Many leagues under UEFA have winter breaks.
Different leagues begin at different times of the year.
There isn't a delay for English League teams - the FA and EFL decided to bring the window forward.
League of Wales closes 2 September 2019.
Once again England is out of step but expects the world to fall in line. | |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 14:12 - Jul 25 with 1573 views | raynor94 |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 13:54 - Jul 25 by Badlands |
Our loan signing from Brentford will cost roughly the same for the year. |
Brentford loan signing? |  |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 14:39 - Jul 25 with 1531 views | Badlands |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 14:12 - Jul 25 by raynor94 |
Brentford loan signing? |
I know Watford - spellcheck changed it once and I've been thinking Mawson and have kept typing Brenford!!!!!!!!!!! It's my age.
Time for a lie down | |
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| Borja - Change of Heart on 14:39 - Jul 25 with 1531 views | Jacket |
| Borja - Change of Heart on 14:12 - Jul 25 by raynor94 |
Brentford loan signing? |
Badlands mixing his fords up or is there a new player incoming?? | | | |
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