| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? 18:19 - Feb 3 with 43756 views | _ |
This is truly shameful as this has been brought up literally hundreds of times since it was first disclosed you couldn't see them.
You've made mugs out of a lot of people and were happy to allow this myth to build and build and be used as another tool for fans not to trust the owners.
The real question is can we trust the Trust
I'm sorry but this is another clear example of why we can't.
It's a sham. |  |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 23:59 - Feb 3 with 1738 views | _ |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 23:04 - Feb 3 by Dewi1jack |
So why not let the Trust financial group see the full and proper set of accounts?
The ones that need to be filed and legally reported.
Something stinks about the whole thing.
Fans on here trying again to make direct attacks on the Trust, just when the threat of legal action is coming to a head
Fans who seem to know a lot more than they are letting on. Unless they're being fed bullsh1te and swallowing it hook line and sinker.
Next Trust Forum is going to be interesting, as I expect everyone making allegations either way to attend and raise them
Maybe it's time the Trust as a major shareholder called financial foul and brought an outside legal agency in to check everything .
That would sort the bullsh1te out one way or the other |
But they do see all the accounts. Bloody pay attention FFS | |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:03 - Feb 4 with 1722 views | _ |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 23:17 - Feb 3 by builthjack |
Chris, why don't the club let the trust see the whole picture? |
What else is there to see?.
I think you're looking for issues when Stu MacDonald seems pretty bloody happy?.
Also states quite clearly there's no sign of mis-administration.
Why wouldn't that be clear to you? Unless it goes against all your paranoia and you won't allow it to be the truth? | |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:07 - Feb 4 with 1704 views | _ |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 23:24 - Feb 3 by 3swan |
That's from the minutes of the first link I put up.
The Trust say they see the monthly management accounts, but it's the bit below the green circle is the info they say they still don't have visibility of. |
He's talking of forecasts though so whilst it would be nice to know where we are and for the trust to find out maybe we don't know yet because we don't know where we'll be when it comes to who's still here or not.
I don't think that's the most important aspect here. The most important thing is the Trust see the accounts and there is zero evidence of wrong doing.
Just stop and take that in for a minute | |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:10 - Feb 4 with 1693 views | _ |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 23:27 - Feb 3 by Dewi1jack |
Voted for legal last time and as of yet nothing has changed my mind.
In fact, it's going to take a lot more than the unfounded allegations going around to make me change my mind.
So come on.
Scottish Eddie/ 2nd coming / all the other Beaky, ex board, present board defenders
Put up the solid evidence to make us all forget about voting for legal. |
What more evidence do you need than hearing it from the Trust themselves?
I've spoken a lot to Ux tonight and told him everything I know.
If the Trust open up and tell you all about how wrong most of the information that's going around is, I'll happily sign up and back them again, but until they do, I simply won't trust them | |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:12 - Feb 4 with 1689 views | Jonathans_coat |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:03 - Feb 4 by _ |
What else is there to see?.
I think you're looking for issues when Stu MacDonald seems pretty bloody happy?.
Also states quite clearly there's no sign of mis-administration.
Why wouldn't that be clear to you? Unless it goes against all your paranoia and you won't allow it to be the truth? |
Brilliant!
We should all get over our paranoia and believe in a conspiracy theory about the trust.
Stu Mac has said the finance subgroup has seen “reasonably detailed” accounts, and they haven’t found a smoking gun evidencing malpractice. Is that your point? |  | | |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:21 - Feb 4 with 1642 views | Uxbridge |
I'll just make one point before I go to bed.
See the screenshot on the last page. See the paragraph under the one circled in green. That's the important one. |  |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:24 - Feb 4 with 1631 views | chad |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 22:45 - Feb 3 by Uxbridge |
The first line? I was confirming I did say it. I'm confused. |
Just a guess but I imagine when you say
“Aha. Something I did actually say”
I would think T2C took that to clearly imply by you that other stuff was being made up by him.
That’s certainly the way I would read that comment. |  | | |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:27 - Feb 4 with 1612 views | Brynmill_Jack |
Here we go again. Everything being blamed on everyone bar the real culprits who are to blame for where we are now. Smokescreen - anyone? |  |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:31 - Feb 4 with 1598 views | Jonathans_coat |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:16 - Feb 4 by _ |
What is the conspiracy theory then?
And yes, our very own Trust director is trying to tell everyone they see the accounts, which let's face it, most of us all thought they didn't, and that there's no suggestion of wrong doing.
The more detail is probably something the Americans can't even answer because the Trust want to know what's the forecast for the next couple of seasons.... We've just got rid of Bony and saved 2m, the forecast has already changed to a few days ago.
Be realistic here. [Post edited 4 Feb 2019 0:17]
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Exactly. Where is the conspiracy theory?
- The trust have said publically (published on thier website) that the finance subgroup has seen accounts showing “reasonable detail”
- I refer you to the title of this thread you have started
What is the point of this thread? | | | |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:32 - Feb 4 with 1593 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:31 - Feb 4 by Jonathans_coat |
Exactly. Where is the conspiracy theory?
- The trust have said publically (published on thier website) that the finance subgroup has seen accounts showing “reasonable detail”
- I refer you to the title of this thread you have started
What is the point of this thread? |
A diversion, maybe? | |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:33 - Feb 4 with 1586 views | Darran |
T2C
The scummiest Swans fan of the the 21st century. |  |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:35 - Feb 4 with 1577 views | Jonathans_coat |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:32 - Feb 4 by Brynmill_Jack |
A diversion, maybe? |
We’ll its not much of a diversion is it?
2 word answer. “We have”
End. Of. Thread.
But no, we have 7 pages of whatever the hell this is! | | | |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:38 - Feb 4 with 1566 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:35 - Feb 4 by Jonathans_coat |
We’ll its not much of a diversion is it?
2 word answer. “We have”
End. Of. Thread.
But no, we have 7 pages of whatever the hell this is! |
Exactly.7 pages of people arguing over an already moot point. As has been said elsewhere, someone's f*cking rattled | |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:40 - Feb 4 with 1559 views | swan65split |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:31 - Feb 4 by Jonathans_coat |
Exactly. Where is the conspiracy theory?
- The trust have said publically (published on thier website) that the finance subgroup has seen accounts showing “reasonable detail”
- I refer you to the title of this thread you have started
What is the point of this thread? |
Exactly!!!!
hes lost all credibility and trust in my eyes in his 22.34 post
Trust! I wouldnt trust the tw&t with a mildew patsy.
Who would deal with someone like that? |  | | |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:56 - Feb 4 with 1535 views | chad |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 22:11 - Feb 3 by _ |
Well yes and no. Most of the ridiculing was because of his infatuation with Transfer Market but yes, to a degree I also scoffed at how much he thought we were in debt.
I'm worried I underestimated him and our situation |
You are worried you underestimated him !!!
Dear god this is surreal you talk like you politely disagreed with him
Scoffed? You and E20 totally ripped him apart. You were just massively abusive and childishly insulting about his figures.
Now you are referring people to those same figures. | | | |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 01:06 - Feb 4 with 1512 views | Darran |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:56 - Feb 4 by chad |
You are worried you underestimated him !!!
Dear god this is surreal you talk like you politely disagreed with him
Scoffed? You and E20 totally ripped him apart. You were just massively abusive and childishly insulting about his figures.
Now you are referring people to those same figures. |
Brilliant. 🙌ðŸ»
And even though I’m a little drunk I’d like to apologise for everything I’ve ever said in the past | |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 01:07 - Feb 4 with 1508 views | swan65split |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:56 - Feb 4 by chad |
You are worried you underestimated him !!!
Dear god this is surreal you talk like you politely disagreed with him
Scoffed? You and E20 totally ripped him apart. You were just massively abusive and childishly insulting about his figures.
Now you are referring people to those same figures. |
I would lose count on the number of times I would "bump" this post, | | | |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 01:25 - Feb 4 with 1486 views | chad |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 01:06 - Feb 4 by Darran |
Brilliant. 🙌ðŸ»
And even though I’m a little drunk I’d like to apologise for everything I’ve ever said in the past |
OK love ya baby. Pax
DONT do it again | | | |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 05:44 - Feb 4 with 1381 views | Phil_S |
Just a couple of points of note at this early hour
1. Shaky and I do not exchange private mails. Shaky and I have exchanged a couple of PMs in the past - largely where I disagree with him. Shaky has complained about several posts made on this forum though in the past few months where he believes (and it seems legitimately ) that information he shared with others has been used to construct arguments against him.
2. The Trust have always said that we received management accounts, it is regularly detailed in the minutes. There are three members of the finance sub-group, all with accounting experience who see these. As a result of seeing these a brief summary is given to the Trust board but the detail of them will not be released into the public domain (indeed the Trust board do not get the smallest detail of them either)
3. As a result of seeing them the same finance sub-group drew up a list of questions that arose from them back in the summer but were denied the ability to get that information without the signing of a NDA. Indeed, at one stage it was asked that Stu sign the NDA but that would also mean he couldn't even discuss the answers with the rest of the sub-group. As part of the legal process, we were then advised that we should not sign any NDA (given that clearly other directors/shareholders were not asked to do the same thing)
This has been openly discussed at every forum I have been at in the last six months in the above way (points 2 and 3, I don't think anyone really cares about point 1) and it#s been clearly made at those events what the discussions of August were all about.
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 06:40 - Feb 4 with 1325 views | ThatsNotWhatHappened |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 05:44 - Feb 4 by Phil_S |
Just a couple of points of note at this early hour
1. Shaky and I do not exchange private mails. Shaky and I have exchanged a couple of PMs in the past - largely where I disagree with him. Shaky has complained about several posts made on this forum though in the past few months where he believes (and it seems legitimately ) that information he shared with others has been used to construct arguments against him.
2. The Trust have always said that we received management accounts, it is regularly detailed in the minutes. There are three members of the finance sub-group, all with accounting experience who see these. As a result of seeing these a brief summary is given to the Trust board but the detail of them will not be released into the public domain (indeed the Trust board do not get the smallest detail of them either)
3. As a result of seeing them the same finance sub-group drew up a list of questions that arose from them back in the summer but were denied the ability to get that information without the signing of a NDA. Indeed, at one stage it was asked that Stu sign the NDA but that would also mean he couldn't even discuss the answers with the rest of the sub-group. As part of the legal process, we were then advised that we should not sign any NDA (given that clearly other directors/shareholders were not asked to do the same thing)
This has been openly discussed at every forum I have been at in the last six months in the above way (points 2 and 3, I don't think anyone really cares about point 1) and it#s been clearly made at those events what the discussions of August were all about.
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Only, that’s not what really happened is it?
You are referring to a thread created with the sole intention of goading one poster. That one poster very politely batted away all the disgusting bile thrown his way to the frustration of those goading parties and the biased watching briefs such as yourself.
Then a notable Danish troll came along resorted to his usual method of constructing his arguments using mental illness as the basis, something many suffer from here and even have had a Swans player take his own life due to it. Something that I would have thought the Trust chairman would not want on his site. Odd.
Anyway, in response to those vile posts, it was politely noted that he himself suffers from an illness and went batsh*t crazy on another poster for bringing that up (who is bizarrely still posting if that is your stance) so probably shouldn’t be using serious illness to construct arguments against others. A fair observation, no?
Realising his favourite go to angle of attack was nullified, he went running to you in frustration and you saw a convenient ‘out’ against someone who has the intellect and testicular fortitude to challenge and critique obviously stupid Trust decisions and then proceed to cowardly hide behind this idiotic reasoning, while spending copious amounts of time silencing, editing and rehashing truths to save face.
The thread is there for all to see, which backs up all of the above and shows the opposite of your concocted version - so not sure who you are trying to kid with that. I think you would earn more trust for the Trust if you manned up and admitted things such as this, I remember it was like pulling teeth trying to get you to admit the last set of mistakes, but you eventually did in your round about way.
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 06:55 - Feb 4 with 1296 views | waynekerr55 |
Is it just me or will we end up seeing this false propaganda being used to nail the sell outs in court. |  |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 07:30 - Feb 4 with 1237 views | magicdaps10 |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 06:40 - Feb 4 by ThatsNotWhatHappened |
Only, that’s not what really happened is it?
You are referring to a thread created with the sole intention of goading one poster. That one poster very politely batted away all the disgusting bile thrown his way to the frustration of those goading parties and the biased watching briefs such as yourself.
Then a notable Danish troll came along resorted to his usual method of constructing his arguments using mental illness as the basis, something many suffer from here and even have had a Swans player take his own life due to it. Something that I would have thought the Trust chairman would not want on his site. Odd.
Anyway, in response to those vile posts, it was politely noted that he himself suffers from an illness and went batsh*t crazy on another poster for bringing that up (who is bizarrely still posting if that is your stance) so probably shouldn’t be using serious illness to construct arguments against others. A fair observation, no?
Realising his favourite go to angle of attack was nullified, he went running to you in frustration and you saw a convenient ‘out’ against someone who has the intellect and testicular fortitude to challenge and critique obviously stupid Trust decisions and then proceed to cowardly hide behind this idiotic reasoning, while spending copious amounts of time silencing, editing and rehashing truths to save face.
The thread is there for all to see, which backs up all of the above and shows the opposite of your concocted version - so not sure who you are trying to kid with that. I think you would earn more trust for the Trust if you manned up and admitted things such as this, I remember it was like pulling teeth trying to get you to admit the last set of mistakes, but you eventually did in your round about way.
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Well that was the lowest and most self approving post of 2019 quite easily. |  |
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 07:35 - Feb 4 with 1229 views | theloneranger |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 06:40 - Feb 4 by ThatsNotWhatHappened |
Only, that’s not what really happened is it?
You are referring to a thread created with the sole intention of goading one poster. That one poster very politely batted away all the disgusting bile thrown his way to the frustration of those goading parties and the biased watching briefs such as yourself.
Then a notable Danish troll came along resorted to his usual method of constructing his arguments using mental illness as the basis, something many suffer from here and even have had a Swans player take his own life due to it. Something that I would have thought the Trust chairman would not want on his site. Odd.
Anyway, in response to those vile posts, it was politely noted that he himself suffers from an illness and went batsh*t crazy on another poster for bringing that up (who is bizarrely still posting if that is your stance) so probably shouldn’t be using serious illness to construct arguments against others. A fair observation, no?
Realising his favourite go to angle of attack was nullified, he went running to you in frustration and you saw a convenient ‘out’ against someone who has the intellect and testicular fortitude to challenge and critique obviously stupid Trust decisions and then proceed to cowardly hide behind this idiotic reasoning, while spending copious amounts of time silencing, editing and rehashing truths to save face.
The thread is there for all to see, which backs up all of the above and shows the opposite of your concocted version - so not sure who you are trying to kid with that. I think you would earn more trust for the Trust if you manned up and admitted things such as this, I remember it was like pulling teeth trying to get you to admit the last set of mistakes, but you eventually did in your round about way.
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| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 07:42 - Feb 4 with 1218 views | _ |
| FAO Ux and the Trust. Why have you not told everyone it sees the Accounts?? on 00:31 - Feb 4 by Jonathans_coat |
Exactly. Where is the conspiracy theory?
- The trust have said publically (published on thier website) that the finance subgroup has seen accounts showing “reasonable detail”
- I refer you to the title of this thread you have started
What is the point of this thread? |
Because pretty much none of us thought they were even seeing the accounts.
You've only got to trawl through this site and you'll see poster after poster saying the same thing.
Now it's like it was common knowledge they always did see the accounts.
This can only happen on the Trust Chairman's website.
FFS can't people be honest with themselves. | |
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