| Our country is fckd match thread 20:04 - Jan 15 with 234826 views | BlackCrowe |
On one side we have a spineless and rudderless government full of self-serving narcissistic cnts utterly divided.
On the other side we have spineless and rudderless opposition full of self-serving narcissistic cnts utterly divided.
Can someone please show us a third way beyond flipping Vince. Failing a Chuka et al third way then Disco, you're the man no to save us from jezwecan, Diane, Sneery Emily and McDonnell no? [Post edited 15 Jan 2019 20:05]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 16:46 - Jun 13 with 1904 views | colinallcars |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 16:01 - Jun 13 by DannytheR |
But it lets a public schoolboy be in charge of them again. |
In the words of Phineas Taylor Barnum - you ain't seen nothin' yet ! Many including myself have spoken of the likes of Cameron and May as Britain's worst ever Prime Minister. If Johnson becomes PM we will become even more of a laughing stock to the world. God help us. This country will be like a vision from hell. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 17:04 - Jun 13 with 1883 views | WEAREAWFUL |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 16:46 - Jun 13 by colinallcars |
In the words of Phineas Taylor Barnum - you ain't seen nothin' yet ! Many including myself have spoken of the likes of Cameron and May as Britain's worst ever Prime Minister. If Johnson becomes PM we will become even more of a laughing stock to the world. God help us. This country will be like a vision from hell. |
If you are going to panic about boris why not embellish it a tad. There will be old people and children dying everywhere through lack of medicines and doctors, there will be no heating or lighting through lack of gas and electric, there will be no transport through lack of petrol, and worst of all we will all starve to death because the shops will be empty. If boris gets in and goes ahead with no deal. Lol. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 17:07 - Jun 13 with 1869 views | FDC |
🚨🚨This is not a drill 🚨🚨
I always knew they'd be brilliant, but I never dared to dream they'd be this good 🤡
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 17:19 - Jun 13 with 1837 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
 
Is it 4 former Labour Mp's lead by a Tory lol |  |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 17:24 - Jun 13 with 1829 views | baldyoldgit |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 16:44 - Jun 13 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Don't fall into his attention trap, time he left home, he has been holding on to the apron strings of the EU for over 40 years, he can't face the outside world.
Still got stabilizers on his Boris bike apparently.
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at least he can answer a simple question. I disagree with his reasoning but at least he's trying.
you cant even answer 1 simple ickle question. Has your brain let you down in the past and now you're frightened of using it again?
Will the EU negotiate with Boris? Yes or No? Go on, go on, go on, go on, go on...
Brain in gear. Use your experience and knowledge to decide if you were the EU and Boris Johnson, newly crowned PM and master of the UK, came a knocking would you talk to him. Come on. I'll go first.
IMO they will not re-open the WA. I could be wrong, happy to admit it. Now use some logic and reasoning to persuade me I am. I bet you don't even try. you'll weasel on about some shite (nipples, strings, wah, wah) rather than man-up and answer the question. bet you don't. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 17:27 - Jun 13 with 1821 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
White noise
Argue with me or I'll carry on with my hissy fit
Like a screaming child, bless. | |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 17:32 - Jun 13 with 1815 views | essextaxiboy |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 16:21 - Jun 13 by baldyoldgit |
The Vote Leave campaign, which was fronted by Boris Johnson and Michael Gove, won the contest to be the official Leave campaign in the 2016 referendum on whether Britain should stay in the European Union.
They were the 'official' voice of the leave campaign. why should they be held less to account than anyone else. Do you really believe voters made that distinction? Boris fronted it - surely now as potentially the new PM he should stick to it's clearly set out mandate. no? |
One of the first things Cameron did when he launched the Referendum was to deny the Leave side access to the civil service and all its resources.
Then when May took over she didnt involve either Gove or Johnson in the negotiating team instead appointing Davis who was just a front for Olly Robins to control things.
When Davis resigned he said that the job needed a follower of HER approach rather than a reluctant conscript . Raab took over and quit when he was also sidelined .
My point is that the advocates of Brexit have never been given a free reign in the negotiations to actually deliver it .
That may change soon but of course they dont start with a clean sheet . The bed has already seen some action and the EU has gone home for a shower . |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 18:02 - Jun 13 with 1791 views | BucksRanger |
Busted! Brussels admits there's NO WAY to force UK to cough up £39bn Brexit bill
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1140103/Brexit-news-UK-EU-Brexit-bill-budget-B
BRUSSELS has finally conceded that there is no legal way to force Britain to fork out for the £39 billion Brexit bill after Boris Johnson threatened to withhold the cash.
Eurocrats admitted “there is not really a court to settle the dispute” if the next British prime minister refuses to pay the extortionate fee agreed by Theresa May. The European Commission’s budget chief Gunther Oettinger told reporters in Brussels that he hopes Britain will “settle old debts fairly” and expects the next Tory leader to “accept that bill”. The German official said: “Mrs May’s Government accepted the payment of that amount, so we expect that no matter which government will be out negotiating partner… we expect them to accept that bill.” |  | | |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 18:04 - Jun 13 with 1786 views | baldyoldgit |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 17:27 - Jun 13 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
White noise
Argue with me or I'll carry on with my hissy fit
Like a screaming child, bless. |
hahaha
answer the question. simples. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 18:08 - Jun 13 with 1782 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 18:04 - Jun 13 by baldyoldgit |
hahaha
answer the question. simples. |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 18:22 - Jun 13 with 1764 views | baldyoldgit |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 17:32 - Jun 13 by essextaxiboy |
One of the first things Cameron did when he launched the Referendum was to deny the Leave side access to the civil service and all its resources.
Then when May took over she didnt involve either Gove or Johnson in the negotiating team instead appointing Davis who was just a front for Olly Robins to control things.
When Davis resigned he said that the job needed a follower of HER approach rather than a reluctant conscript . Raab took over and quit when he was also sidelined .
My point is that the advocates of Brexit have never been given a free reign in the negotiations to actually deliver it .
That may change soon but of course they dont start with a clean sheet . The bed has already seen some action and the EU has gone home for a shower . |
not disputing Cameron/civil service thing. open to how much that affected the final result. suspect it wan't as much as you think. remain generally ran a crap campaign and badly misjudged half the countries understanding of the EU.
your last sentence is also correct. we've had our turn and the EU have picked up the ball and gone home.
All the bit in the middle I disagree with. May realised she was caught between a rock and a hard place. denounce the referendum result or question it's authority and she's split the Tory party (looks what happened since) or actually try and leave the EU (which I dont think she really wanted to do). So, she triggers A50 (corbyn's wet dream) trying to blag a new treaty from the EU hoping they'd crap themselves. Planning on us never really leaving just moving from one trade deal to another. no NI border issue, no Dover gridlock, just move from one position to another. EU went f'off. Everything else has been a slow death dance around that position. Gove or Johnson would have faired no better. We have to leave before we can do a deal. the only way round it was to stay in the CU and SM which May stated right at the beginning we wouldn't. What do you think Gove or Boris would have done differently? genuine question. EU barely moved an inch for May because of her red lines. Would Boris not have had the same red lines? Would Gove had argued staying in the CU? Davis and Raab quit cos they realised the EU weren't going to budge. The four freedoms trump all. I think you could of had Farage, Churchill and fecking Boudica at the negotiating table and still got the same deal. Although now we'll never know. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 18:29 - Jun 13 with 1754 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 17:27 - Jun 13 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
White noise
Argue with me or I'll carry on with my hissy fit
Like a screaming child, bless. |
You could just answer the question. Crazy idea admittedly. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 19:30 - Jun 13 with 1708 views | QPR_John |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 18:22 - Jun 13 by baldyoldgit |
not disputing Cameron/civil service thing. open to how much that affected the final result. suspect it wan't as much as you think. remain generally ran a crap campaign and badly misjudged half the countries understanding of the EU.
your last sentence is also correct. we've had our turn and the EU have picked up the ball and gone home.
All the bit in the middle I disagree with. May realised she was caught between a rock and a hard place. denounce the referendum result or question it's authority and she's split the Tory party (looks what happened since) or actually try and leave the EU (which I dont think she really wanted to do). So, she triggers A50 (corbyn's wet dream) trying to blag a new treaty from the EU hoping they'd crap themselves. Planning on us never really leaving just moving from one trade deal to another. no NI border issue, no Dover gridlock, just move from one position to another. EU went f'off. Everything else has been a slow death dance around that position. Gove or Johnson would have faired no better. We have to leave before we can do a deal. the only way round it was to stay in the CU and SM which May stated right at the beginning we wouldn't. What do you think Gove or Boris would have done differently? genuine question. EU barely moved an inch for May because of her red lines. Would Boris not have had the same red lines? Would Gove had argued staying in the CU? Davis and Raab quit cos they realised the EU weren't going to budge. The four freedoms trump all. I think you could of had Farage, Churchill and fecking Boudica at the negotiating table and still got the same deal. Although now we'll never know. |
"We have to leave before we can do a deal."
And that is the source of all the problems since. Once we accepted that the EU knew they had the upper hand [Post edited 13 Jun 2019 19:31]
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 19:43 - Jun 13 with 1694 views | baldyoldgit |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 19:30 - Jun 13 by QPR_John |
"We have to leave before we can do a deal."
And that is the source of all the problems since. Once we accepted that the EU knew they had the upper hand [Post edited 13 Jun 2019 19:31]
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agreed, but that's just what A50 stipulates. the EU is nothing but a big set of rules.
the EU wouldn't even talk to us until we triggered it, so we triggered it and bang! gotcha.
No options from that moment on. Cant break international treaties, Thatcher said so. We stay in the CU or we break the GFA. Cant break international treaties, Thatcher said so. May's says redline of leaving the CU. Checkmate, to the EU's rule book.
A50 wasn't written for the likes of us as the EU assumed countries like ours wouldn't leave. It was written to expel small eastern European countries in case they elected a dictator or someone the EU hated.
So, either May had some really bad legal advice or she thought she could stiff the EU.
The new PM will just inherit all of the above no matter what claptrap they spew over the next few weeks. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 19:47 - Jun 13 with 1683 views | baldyoldgit |
answering the question would be quicker than posting the gif.
yes
or
no
3 letters at most
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 19:52 - Jun 13 with 1667 views | derbyhoop |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 17:32 - Jun 13 by essextaxiboy |
One of the first things Cameron did when he launched the Referendum was to deny the Leave side access to the civil service and all its resources.
Then when May took over she didnt involve either Gove or Johnson in the negotiating team instead appointing Davis who was just a front for Olly Robins to control things.
When Davis resigned he said that the job needed a follower of HER approach rather than a reluctant conscript . Raab took over and quit when he was also sidelined .
My point is that the advocates of Brexit have never been given a free reign in the negotiations to actually deliver it .
That may change soon but of course they dont start with a clean sheet . The bed has already seen some action and the EU has gone home for a shower . |
Can I add a rider to that first sentence. Government policy was to Remain. The civil service implement Govt policy.
Why would you, in any walk of life not just central government, allocate resources to a group that want to do the opposite of chosen policy? |  |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 20:04 - Jun 13 with 1640 views | essextaxiboy |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 19:52 - Jun 13 by derbyhoop |
Can I add a rider to that first sentence. Government policy was to Remain. The civil service implement Govt policy.
Why would you, in any walk of life not just central government, allocate resources to a group that want to do the opposite of chosen policy? |
Fair point but dont(not you personally) level the accusation that Leave had no plans for winning and just walked away .
The Government did no preparation for Leave despite having all of the resources( but still lost) and in fact it was the remainers that walked away . | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 20:39 - Jun 13 with 1592 views | BucksRanger |
Poll: Leftists More Likely to Support Political Violence
Labour & Remain voters approve of milkshaking right-wing politicians.
According to a new YouGov poll, Labour Party leftists and Remain voters are more likely to approve of political violence in the form of throwing milkshakes at politicians.
https://summit.news/2019/06/13/poll-leftists-more-likely-to-support-political-vi | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 20:47 - Jun 13 with 1576 views | Watford_Ranger |
Obviously. It’s hilarious.
“Political violence” FFS. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 20:56 - Jun 13 with 1566 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Interesting actually but not surprising considering the opposing politics of the targets and the perpetrators .
Would love to see a similar poll, except with the murder of Jo Cox, planned murder of Corbyn/Khan/Cooper, and assault of the LotO with a punch to the head as the subject. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 20:56 - Jun 13 with 1565 views | colinallcars |
No mention of the most dreaded of all measures.....sarcasm. Some of these Conservatives can be very sarcastic at times y'know. | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 22:14 - Jun 13 with 2568 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
Chuka Umunna Joined the LD's
I bet he still does not stand for re-election after winning his seat for Labour.
Bloke's a thief. | |
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| Our country is fckd match thread on 22:20 - Jun 13 with 2558 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 20:56 - Jun 13 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Interesting actually but not surprising considering the opposing politics of the targets and the perpetrators .
Would love to see a similar poll, except with the murder of Jo Cox, planned murder of Corbyn/Khan/Cooper, and assault of the LotO with a punch to the head as the subject. |
You forgot to add 'arranging for journalists to be beaten'. |  | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 22:33 - Jun 13 with 2541 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 22:20 - Jun 13 by Ned_Kennedys |
You forgot to add 'arranging for journalists to be beaten'. |
That too! | | | |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 06:51 - Jun 14 with 2439 views | distortR |
| Our country is fckd match thread on 19:52 - Jun 13 by derbyhoop |
Can I add a rider to that first sentence. Government policy was to Remain. The civil service implement Govt policy.
Why would you, in any walk of life not just central government, allocate resources to a group that want to do the opposite of chosen policy? |
god, that sounds so much like my married life. | | | |
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