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On one side we have a spineless and rudderless government full of self-serving narcissistic cnts utterly divided.
On the other side we have spineless and rudderless opposition full of self-serving narcissistic cnts utterly divided.
Can someone please show us a third way beyond flipping Vince. Failing a Chuka et al third way then Disco, you're the man no to save us from jezwecan, Diane, Sneery Emily and McDonnell no?
The thing polls never reflect is Labour's potential to mobilise a hell of a lot of people to get out the vote. In a GE it will be even bigger. The fact this was a big leave voting area, and the circumstances of the by-election itself, it's all very encouraging for Labour to be honest after a rough couple of weeks. As has been the case for a number of years now, it looks like the negative reporting just doesn't cut through (that's true for UKIP/Brexit parry too of course).
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Our country is fckd match thread on 08:36 - Jun 7 with 2157 views
Our country is fckd match thread on 08:07 - Jun 7 by FDC
The thing polls never reflect is Labour's potential to mobilise a hell of a lot of people to get out the vote. In a GE it will be even bigger. The fact this was a big leave voting area, and the circumstances of the by-election itself, it's all very encouraging for Labour to be honest after a rough couple of weeks. As has been the case for a number of years now, it looks like the negative reporting just doesn't cut through (that's true for UKIP/Brexit parry too of course).
The proof will be Labour’s vote up north. They’ll lose many traditional votes up there.
The main opposition win a by-election in a safe(ish) constituency by 700 votes. It’s nothing to be crowing about really.
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Our country is fckd match thread on 08:57 - Jun 7 with 2123 views
Our country is fckd match thread on 08:36 - Jun 7 by Snipper
The proof will be Labour’s vote up north. They’ll lose many traditional votes up there.
The main opposition win a by-election in a safe(ish) constituency by 700 votes. It’s nothing to be crowing about really.
Peterborough isn’t a safe seat.
Became Labour in 2017 after 2 previous Tory wins. It’s what we class as a ultra marginal alongside Gower, Dudley, and Hasting and places like that.
Labour won yesterday because 500 members and 50 MPs turned up to get the vote out on local issues and a local candidate. Not to mention the hundreds that I’ve turned up over the last two weeks.
I can say that with authority because I was there.
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Our country is fckd match thread on 09:43 - Jun 7 with 2056 views
Our country is fckd match thread on 08:36 - Jun 7 by Snipper
The proof will be Labour’s vote up north. They’ll lose many traditional votes up there.
The main opposition win a by-election in a safe(ish) constituency by 700 votes. It’s nothing to be crowing about really.
It's a different world though, comparisons with vote shares pre-Brexit don't tell us very much. As far as a single by-election goes, I'm encouraged given the beating the party got at the Euros, the rise of UKIP v2.0, and the circumstances of the by-election itself.
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Our country is fckd match thread on 09:55 - Jun 7 with 2032 views
Our country is fckd match thread on 09:39 - Jun 7 by BazzaInTheLoft
Peterborough isn’t a safe seat.
Became Labour in 2017 after 2 previous Tory wins. It’s what we class as a ultra marginal alongside Gower, Dudley, and Hasting and places like that.
Labour won yesterday because 500 members and 50 MPs turned up to get the vote out on local issues and a local candidate. Not to mention the hundreds that I’ve turned up over the last two weeks.
I can say that with authority because I was there.
Our country is fckd match thread on 10:22 - Jun 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles
Had to work very hard for those 683 votes then...
While the Brexit Party just swan around
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There's some truth in that. Labour are trying to do a difficult thing (maintain a constituency of both leave and remain voters), and have the combined forces of the media and the right of it's own party attacking them day in day out, and it has to work very hard. But that's why this by-election was an important test, that it's encouraging to see it pass. There's been a lot of talk recently about a disenfranchised membership that is no longer up for the slog. But Momentum were able to organise car-shares etc from all over the country to get people to P'boro.
So, yes, it has to work hard for it's votes, but yes it's still able to mobilise large numbers in order to do so, despite the onslaught in recent weeks.
And something Labour will always have over Brexit Party (and Conservatives tbh) is the on-the-ground knowledge of how to get the vote out. BP (and Tommy Robinson and UKIP up here during the Euro elections in fact) will generally stand around in town centres handing out leaflets. Labour know where their voters live and how to get them out on polling day.
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Our country is fckd match thread on 11:14 - Jun 7 with 1884 views
i'd vote for those responsible to have their oxygen priviledges removed, as they cannot be of earthly use to the rest of the planet.
What scum does this kind of thing? probably the same sort that bundles a trump mask wearing old chap to the ground, or mugs old age pensioners for a tenner.
No doubt if found, the ass of a law we have will fine them 250 hours of community service that they wont turn up for!
Strong words i know, but i'm getting sick and tired of the lack of taking responsibility for your actions, kids going on strike from school because they have been fed shyte on just how bad we are as a country with the environment, or throwing milkshakes over people for a laugh. Wont be long before some fecktard puts something other than milkshakes into these containers and throws that over someone. sick and tired in people not wanting to take a decision by the majority on board, sick and tired of all the bloody crap that the news comes out with.....
pegasus bridge wasnt the bloody white bridge in from of you yesterday you muppets (to the press guys and gals now), do your homework, and if your too fecking stupid to do that, merely open your eyes to the bigger story of the real pegasus bridge thats literally 100 yards away, and the tale of the wounded on there during the war, the heroism shown, show the bullet and shrapnel holes that are still there and the place a brave soldier lost his life trying to save a wounded comrade, stop treating such things with disdain and ignorance on your publicly paid for "jolly' to Normandy.
in fact, just feck right off!
i'm in a mood, you can tell, and had to spout, sorry. i'll get better after my meds kick in.......nurse!!!
Our country is fckd match thread on 11:36 - Jun 7 by RangersDave
i'd vote for those responsible to have their oxygen priviledges removed, as they cannot be of earthly use to the rest of the planet.
What scum does this kind of thing? probably the same sort that bundles a trump mask wearing old chap to the ground, or mugs old age pensioners for a tenner.
No doubt if found, the ass of a law we have will fine them 250 hours of community service that they wont turn up for!
Strong words i know, but i'm getting sick and tired of the lack of taking responsibility for your actions, kids going on strike from school because they have been fed shyte on just how bad we are as a country with the environment, or throwing milkshakes over people for a laugh. Wont be long before some fecktard puts something other than milkshakes into these containers and throws that over someone. sick and tired in people not wanting to take a decision by the majority on board, sick and tired of all the bloody crap that the news comes out with.....
pegasus bridge wasnt the bloody white bridge in from of you yesterday you muppets (to the press guys and gals now), do your homework, and if your too fecking stupid to do that, merely open your eyes to the bigger story of the real pegasus bridge thats literally 100 yards away, and the tale of the wounded on there during the war, the heroism shown, show the bullet and shrapnel holes that are still there and the place a brave soldier lost his life trying to save a wounded comrade, stop treating such things with disdain and ignorance on your publicly paid for "jolly' to Normandy.
in fact, just feck right off!
i'm in a mood, you can tell, and had to spout, sorry. i'll get better after my meds kick in.......nurse!!!
I can think of some much stronger words, but then the liberals on here will start their, these poor misunderstood blar blar blar bullshite.
If the Farage cult (it isn't a party) cannot win Peterborough in these circumstances it doesn't say much about their chances in anything other than a single issue vote. At the moment that appears to be all they have and if/as they start developing policies in other areas, the UK electorate are likely to find them more and more repulsive.
- Farage on NHS - Widdecome on curing homosexuality (from about 6'30")
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Our country is fckd match thread on 11:52 - Jun 7 with 1797 views
@Derby I'm not sure, that thinking might fall in to the same trap as thinking that 'exposing' Farage et al by endlessly interviewing them will some how damage their vote share. I think all this stuff is costed in. In fact, I'm not sure AW's views *are* especially off-putting to the 25% or so that back the BP. Brexit has unleashed something approaching a culture war, and this is one of its poles I think.
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Our country is fckd match thread on 11:54 - Jun 7 with 1794 views
Our country is fckd match thread on 11:47 - Jun 7 by derbyhoop
If the Farage cult (it isn't a party) cannot win Peterborough in these circumstances it doesn't say much about their chances in anything other than a single issue vote. At the moment that appears to be all they have and if/as they start developing policies in other areas, the UK electorate are likely to find them more and more repulsive.
- Farage on NHS - Widdecome on curing homosexuality (from about 6'30")
The Anne Widdecombe comments are baffling in this day and age.
favourite cheese mature Cheddar. FFS there is no such thing as the EPL
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