| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. 14:54 - Oct 14 with 19681 views | ItchySphincter |
.... after the girl's previous sexual history is forensically judged. Yuk.
Planet Swans meltdown incoming. [Post edited 17 Oct 2016 23:44]
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:49 - Oct 18 with 1031 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:44 - Oct 18 by Jango |
And I'm telling you it's not |
Look it up.
A man can of course be raped, but only by another man. |  | | |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:49 - Oct 18 with 1029 views | Jango |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:44 - Oct 18 by londonlisa2001 |
I agree that no memory doesn't mean no consent, or at least, a genuinely held belief that she had consented.
I disagree that her getting hammered and having one night stands every weekend is important - in fact, it is absolutely irrelevant.
As for whether I am happy that a female can't be done for rape - rape is penetration without consent with a penis. I am neither happy, nor unhappy that a woman doesn't have a penis.
I am happy that a woman can be done for sexual assault. I have absolutely no doubt that women sexually assault men (or other women for that matter) at times. I have absolutely no problem with them receiving punishment and imprisonment when they do.
The fact that you may have different views on what is and isn't acceptable behaviour from men or women does not mean that I do. I treat, and indeed judge, both equally. |
So using my example, you'd be happy to see an innocent man go to prison just so that the women's past wasn't used as evidence? Lovely | | | |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:54 - Oct 18 with 1019 views | morningstar |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:46 - Oct 18 by exiledclaseboy |
And in that case I'm telling you that you clearly have no idea what "rape" is then. Lisa's outlined it nicely for you above. |
Give up. It's only a matter of time before he'll come up with the scenario of a Miss Jones, the hermaphrodite who wanders the street at night sticking it up men's bottoms!  |  |
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:54 - Oct 18 with 1016 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:49 - Oct 18 by Jango |
So using my example, you'd be happy to see an innocent man go to prison just so that the women's past wasn't used as evidence? Lovely |
Not even slightly.
But a woman's promiscuity or otherwise has absolutely no bearing on whether or not she is raped.
Your example was of a sexually active woman who had never before accused a man of rape. Now if you had given an example where the woman had accused a man of rape every time she had had sex over those twenty weekends, that would have been different as it would have established a relevant pattern of false accusation. | | | |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:57 - Oct 18 with 998 views | Jango |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:54 - Oct 18 by londonlisa2001 |
Not even slightly.
But a woman's promiscuity or otherwise has absolutely no bearing on whether or not she is raped.
Your example was of a sexually active woman who had never before accused a man of rape. Now if you had given an example where the woman had accused a man of rape every time she had had sex over those twenty weekends, that would have been different as it would have established a relevant pattern of false accusation. |
Well thankfully in this case the law agreed with me. | | | |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:59 - Oct 18 with 987 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:57 - Oct 18 by Jango |
Well thankfully in this case the law agreed with me. |
The law is entirely neutral in these things, simply stating what the offence is. The jury agreed with you. |  |
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:02 - Oct 18 with 972 views | Jango |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:46 - Oct 18 by exiledclaseboy |
And in that case I'm telling you that you clearly have no idea what "rape" is then. Lisa's outlined it nicely for you above. |
However, both women and men can be raped. A rape can occur within a relationship or within a marriage. The law says: 'A' is guilty of rape if: he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of 'B' with his penis; 'B' does not consent to the penetration, and 'A' does not reasonably believe that 'B' consents.
Taken from the BBC, just because our law doesn't support it doesn't mean it can't happen. | | | |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:11 - Oct 18 with 947 views | morningstar |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:02 - Oct 18 by Jango |
However, both women and men can be raped. A rape can occur within a relationship or within a marriage. The law says: 'A' is guilty of rape if: he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of 'B' with his penis; 'B' does not consent to the penetration, and 'A' does not reasonably believe that 'B' consents.
Taken from the BBC, just because our law doesn't support it doesn't mean it can't happen. |
But how does 'A' become a female if she doesn't have a penis?  | |
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:11 - Oct 18 with 943 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:02 - Oct 18 by Jango |
However, both women and men can be raped. A rape can occur within a relationship or within a marriage. The law says: 'A' is guilty of rape if: he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of 'B' with his penis; 'B' does not consent to the penetration, and 'A' does not reasonably believe that 'B' consents.
Taken from the BBC, just because our law doesn't support it doesn't mean it can't happen. |
I never said a man can't be raped. I said a woman can't commit rape. | |
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:19 - Oct 18 with 918 views | blueytheblue |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:02 - Oct 18 by Jango |
However, both women and men can be raped. A rape can occur within a relationship or within a marriage. The law says: 'A' is guilty of rape if: he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of 'B' with his penis; 'B' does not consent to the penetration, and 'A' does not reasonably believe that 'B' consents.
Taken from the BBC, just because our law doesn't support it doesn't mean it can't happen. |
Jango, you wrote...
" The law says: 'A' is guilty of rape if: he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of 'B' with his penis; 'B' does not consent to the penetration, and 'A' does not reasonably believe that 'B' consents. "
So... how many women do you know that use the male pronoun and also have a penis?
EDIT for clarity.
The definition of rape specifically relates to "penis". Ergo, women cannot be charged with rape. QED. [Post edited 18 Oct 2016 21:21]
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:29 - Oct 18 with 899 views | swanjackal |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:19 - Oct 18 by blueytheblue |
Jango, you wrote...
" The law says: 'A' is guilty of rape if: he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of 'B' with his penis; 'B' does not consent to the penetration, and 'A' does not reasonably believe that 'B' consents. "
So... how many women do you know that use the male pronoun and also have a penis?
EDIT for clarity.
The definition of rape specifically relates to "penis". Ergo, women cannot be charged with rape. QED. [Post edited 18 Oct 2016 21:21]
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3476199/Transgender-woman-25-jailed-eigh
Technically she was charged when a woman, just saying.
Silliness aside, it is true legally in the UK, due to archaic sexist laws, women can't be charged with "rape", although the definition has changed in dictionaries, where the law hasn't caught up.
It would be good to see the law and its terminology updated to get both sexes to be punishable for commuting such a heinous act, and sentences imposed being made equal across the board for the same offences. [Post edited 18 Oct 2016 21:36]
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:37 - Oct 18 with 881 views | morningstar |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:29 - Oct 18 by swanjackal |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3476199/Transgender-woman-25-jailed-eigh
Technically she was charged when a woman, just saying.
Silliness aside, it is true legally in the UK, due to archaic sexist laws, women can't be charged with "rape", although the definition has changed in dictionaries, where the law hasn't caught up.
It would be good to see the law and its terminology updated to get both sexes to be punishable for commuting such a heinous act, and sentences imposed being made equal across the board for the same offences. [Post edited 18 Oct 2016 21:36]
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Erm, no. 'She' may have wished to call herself a woman, but was charged and convicted as a male. | |
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:42 - Oct 18 with 865 views | swanjackal |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:37 - Oct 18 by morningstar |
Erm, no. 'She' may have wished to call herself a woman, but was charged and convicted as a male. |
Wasn't meant as serious fella.
Edit: But it seems women can be charged for rape, if they are accessory to the fact. So technically, a woman can be charged with rape of a man/woman if they participate in holding and aiding the penis in its penetration. [Post edited 18 Oct 2016 21:50]
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:48 - Oct 18 with 850 views | Darran |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 21:42 - Oct 18 by swanjackal |
Wasn't meant as serious fella.
Edit: But it seems women can be charged for rape, if they are accessory to the fact. So technically, a woman can be charged with rape of a man/woman if they participate in holding and aiding the penis in its penetration. [Post edited 18 Oct 2016 21:50]
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You need to ignore Morningstar he's a bit f*cking thick. [Post edited 18 Oct 2016 21:59]
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 22:08 - Oct 18 with 797 views | ItchySphincter |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 20:59 - Oct 18 by exiledclaseboy |
The law is entirely neutral in these things, simply stating what the offence is. The jury agreed with you. |
That's debatable - the jury decided guilt couldn't be proven beyond reasonable doubt, that hardly makes them card carrying members of Jango's slags and rapers society. | |
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 22:19 - Oct 18 with 776 views | pikeypaul |
swanjackal / jango why have two accounts it's far easier to post in one name in each topic. |  |
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 22:30 - Oct 18 with 761 views | swanjackal |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 22:19 - Oct 18 by pikeypaul |
swanjackal / jango why have two accounts it's far easier to post in one name in each topic. |
Try again, this time with more feeling. | |
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 22:36 - Oct 18 with 749 views | raynor94 |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 22:19 - Oct 18 by pikeypaul |
swanjackal / jango why have two accounts it's far easier to post in one name in each topic. |
I think Jango's connection has gone down, he hasn't been able to Google anything for the last hour |  |
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 22:39 - Oct 18 with 746 views | morningstar |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 22:19 - Oct 18 by pikeypaul |
swanjackal / jango why have two accounts it's far easier to post in one name in each topic. |
Uh? I'd be dumbstruck if i found swanjackal was Jango. It's like saying the North and South poles are the same!  | |
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 22:40 - Oct 18 with 742 views | swanjackal |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 22:39 - Oct 18 by morningstar |
Uh? I'd be dumbstruck if i found swanjackal was Jango. It's like saying the North and South poles are the same! |
Not as dumbstruck as my wife | |
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 00:00 - Oct 19 with 694 views | pikeypaul |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 22:36 - Oct 18 by raynor94 |
I think Jango's connection has gone down, he hasn't been able to Google anything for the last hour |
Because he's lent his device to swanjackal all their posts have come from the same device.
Also Take a look at the 6th post on page 9 of this thread posted by jango and post 15 on page 10 posted by swanjackal notice any similarities in the 1st line of both posts.
Also him replying to bluey as jango but forgetting he's signed in as swanjackal.
Schoolboy error. [Post edited 19 Oct 2016 0:07]
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| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 00:02 - Oct 19 with 687 views | swanjackal |
| Chedwyn Evans not guilty.. on 00:00 - Oct 19 by pikeypaul |
Because he's lent his device to swanjackal all their posts have come from the same device.
Also Take a look at the 6th post on page 9 of this thread posted by jango and post 15 on page 10 posted by swanjackal notice any similarities in the 1st line of both posts.
Also him replying to bluey as jango but forgetting he's signed in as swanjackal.
Schoolboy error. [Post edited 19 Oct 2016 0:07]
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