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The one thing I am certain of re this vote is that no-one knows for sure what the repercussions economically will be if we pull out. If you listen to the experts it will be better if we stay in, however its all unconvincing. My issue is that after 10 years of Austerity, the services in this country have been cut to the bone, that is services that are needed by us all - not just Immigrants/benefit spongers. We are not in a position to afford the enormous gamble if it all goes t1ts up. I am taking my lead from Ray Winston and gambling responsibly and staying in. If we ever get to situation when everything is adequately funded and horrible 0 hours contracts were abolished ... then maybe it might be worth the risk to pull out. But to do it now is a massive gamble which we just cannot afford to lose.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 22:08 - Jul 4 with 2263 views
Brexit .... My thoughts... on 20:26 - Jul 4 by derbyhoop
Boris wants the government to set out the positives of leaving. So I'll have a go:-
1. The financial news hasn't been as bad as some predicted. Thanks, largely to the speech Mark Carney, who was the devil incarnate to some of the Leave supporters 6 weeks ago, made on Friday morning, the markets have calmed down. Even if the £ has fallen heavily against both the $ and the Euro.
2. Boris won't be the next PM
3. Come back to me if I can find a 3rd positive. Or ask me again in 6 months and a further time in 2 years, when the effects have become clearer.
From tonight's Panorama it is clear that the Leave vote was EITHER due to immigration being perceived as the reason why there aren't enough school places or hospital appointments OR a protest vote against austerity measures, which had little to do with the EU and everything to do with the national government. I suspect, that in 2 years time, if/when things are not radically better, people will look around for someone else to blame.
It's already happening. You can see it in some of what's been posted here.
Life for migrants is going to get more and more uncomfortable on a day-to-day basis, stoked up by the rhetoric in Westminster. You assume a lot of people are going to start packing their bags rather than live feeing unwelcome and precarious.
More generally, if you disagree with government policy or the views of the majority as expressed on the 23rd, it means you're being unpatriotic. And being unpatriotic now feels very ill-advised.
Something fundamental has changed - not the kind of people who are in power, that's the one thing that stays the same. But among ourselves. It's not about politics, or at least not in the way we might have thought of politics this time last week. It's about identity. That's very dangerous ground.
I think for many of us the question isn't what things will be like here in two years. It's should we/can we get out in the meantime.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 22:28 - Jul 4 with 2237 views
William Butler Yeats (1865-1939) THE SECOND COMING
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.
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'I'm 18 with a bullet.Got my finger on the trigger,I'm gonna pull it.."
Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
Pass the cake and pies please.
Found out today that one of the instigators of the Brexit legal protest is the billionaire guvnor of Zoopla - so a bunch of estate agents is trying to f*ck you over - no change there then.
A very good article on Prerogative Power.
the better view is that Article 50 can be invoked by the Prime Minister using prerogative power, without the involvement of Parliament.
Brilliant! Let's redo the entire thread in italics. If I'd known Brexit was going to bring this sort of joy to my life I'd have been doing leaflet drops for Nigel Farage for the last decade.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 11:16 - Jul 5 with 2206 views
Brexit .... My thoughts... on 14:05 - Jul 5 by stevec
Not as nice as Brush Script
Comic Sans might put a slightly happier tone on the whole thing.
Danny, I don't make you wrong (I'm in the property business and I might be rooting through your bins in a minute for chicken bones) but which one of the four horsemen are you?
"Thank you for supporting Queens Park Rangers Steep Staircase"... and I thought I'd signed up for a rollercoaster.
Brexit .... My thoughts... on 14:07 - Jul 5 by Mytch_QPR
Comic Sans might put a slightly happier tone on the whole thing.
Danny, I don't make you wrong (I'm in the property business and I might be rooting through your bins in a minute for chicken bones) but which one of the four horsemen are you?
Appears the horse may have to be repossessed.
I just thought having bravely taken back control on all our behalfs, a few of the chaps might want to be kept up to date with their handiwork.
I don't want to distract anyone from putting up pictures of little kids on Twitter to have a laugh at. But news is news.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 14:14 - Jul 5 with 2051 views
Brexit .... My thoughts... on 14:13 - Jul 5 by DannytheR
Appears the horse may have to be repossessed.
I just thought having bravely taken back control on all our behalfs, a few of the chaps might want to be kept up to date with their handiwork.
I don't want to distract anyone from putting up pictures of little kids on Twitter to have a laugh at. But news is news.
Fair enough. I think the car market is on its @rse, so you may be able to get a cheap runaround to replace the horse.
I would be less worried about it if there was someone around to show some leadership. I did say a few posts back that I don't think Brexit will actually happen (and I stand by this), but the current uncertainty is not helping anyone or any industry.
"Thank you for supporting Queens Park Rangers Steep Staircase"... and I thought I'd signed up for a rollercoaster.
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