| Huw Jenkins 14:02 - Jan 10 with 49205 views | JBG |
Stay away from our team and hand Martin the chairmans job, you fhucking interfering knob |  | | |  |
| Huw Jenkins on 08:42 - Jan 11 with 2441 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Huw Jenkins on 16:56 - Jan 10 by trampie |
Its all relative though, throughout my many decades of supporting the Swans, Swans are historically for them in a very good position.
Swans are not relegated yet, we have a fighting chance of staying up, I know lots of posters on here are fellow Swans fans but I tell you something you would not want some of the posters on here alongside you in the trenches. |
It's ok having a moan in the trenches whilst being peppered with machine gun fire and mustard gas - when your commanding officer should have changed your position months ago and lessened the risk. Just a thought. |  |
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| Huw Jenkins on 08:44 - Jan 11 with 2432 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Huw Jenkins on 16:44 - Jan 10 by Darran |
What mess? 
Fourth from bottom of the league dumped out of the cup by a league 2 side and he asks what mess?
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Oh, woken up have we Einstein ???? | |
| Each time I go to Bedd - au........................ |
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| Huw Jenkins on 08:50 - Jan 11 with 2417 views | Cooperman |
I read this lot between Chievely and Leigh Delamere and oh did I chortle at some of the stuff in the proceeding 8 pages. One of the biggest 'lol's' went to the OP. |  |
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| Huw Jenkins on 10:02 - Jan 11 with 2343 views | WarwickHunt |
| Huw Jenkins on 08:55 - Jan 11 by Brynmill_Jack |
Could you see Michael Laudrup signing Marvin Emness (who has never let us down - but that's not the point).
The biggest clue could be in Michael Laudrup signing a player he admitted he'd never even heard of!
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Not to mention Curt admitting it a couple of weeks ago... |  | | |
| Huw Jenkins on 10:53 - Jan 11 with 2295 views | waynekerr55 |
| Huw Jenkins on 08:50 - Jan 11 by Cooperman |
I read this lot between Chievely and Leigh Delamere and oh did I chortle at some of the stuff in the proceeding 8 pages. One of the biggest 'lol's' went to the OP. |
He's on track for the most down arrows ever |  |
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| Huw Jenkins on 11:15 - Jan 11 with 2261 views | jack247 |
| Huw Jenkins on 21:38 - Jan 10 by Flashberryjack |
So you don't know what we paid for these players......do you ?
Whatever
Peanuts
Either free or nominal
Swapped
Fabianski for free
FFS |
No. I was wrong about Ash, it was £400k.
Rangel cost something like £25k - peanuts.
Leon was either free with a sell on/appearance clause or a nominal fee.
Gylfi was swapped for Davies and Vorm
Fabianski was a free transfer. As was Ayew.
So that's the spine of our team for under £500k, which gives a little balance when we are complaining about paying over the odds for the likes of Eder and Tabanou. I am pretty sure you already understood the point though and just fancied getting a FFS in. |  | | |
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| Huw Jenkins on 11:23 - Jan 11 with 2240 views | Uxbridge |
| Huw Jenkins on 20:43 - Jan 10 by Dr_Winston |
Wednesday is as close to must win as a game can be at this stage of the season. |
Quite.
6 points now would be season defining. So would 0 points.
I've been quite calm about yesterday's debacle. Wednesday is where it's at. If that goes south then it's rough times ahead. |  |
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| Huw Jenkins on 11:25 - Jan 11 with 2232 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Huw Jenkins on 11:15 - Jan 11 by jack247 |
No. I was wrong about Ash, it was £400k.
Rangel cost something like £25k - peanuts.
Leon was either free with a sell on/appearance clause or a nominal fee.
Gylfi was swapped for Davies and Vorm
Fabianski was a free transfer. As was Ayew.
So that's the spine of our team for under £500k, which gives a little balance when we are complaining about paying over the odds for the likes of Eder and Tabanou. I am pretty sure you already understood the point though and just fancied getting a FFS in. |
To be fair the players that came in under Martinez were either via his contacts or Reeves' scouting.
Over the last few years we have not had value for money for our recruits in my honest opinion - certainly the ones that have come about as a result of our manager - eg Laudrup was presumably the one who wanted DeGuzman, Michu, Chico - undoubted successes (and yes I know he signed some duffers too).
Fabianski, Fernandez and Sigurdsson can be deemed to be successes, not that the latter two came cheap and arguable we knew all about Siggy too.
Begs the question as to who is recommending these players/giving the go ahead and what sort of accountability do they have?
We can't afford to simply throw money away on players who aren't up to it. |  | | |
| Huw Jenkins on 11:26 - Jan 11 with 2223 views | perchrockjack |
Would be churlish to disagree with that | |
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| Huw Jenkins on 11:29 - Jan 11 with 2209 views | Dr_Winston |
| Huw Jenkins on 11:20 - Jan 11 by Uxbridge |
I generally find everyone can be proven to be right if you wait long enough. My issue with Monk last season was the style of play .. you couldn't argue with the results. Must admit I was surprised at his inability to address our slump this season though ... I expected better leadership than he showed.
As for the Huw Jenkins stuff, if you accept the plaudits when it's going well, then you have to accept the brickbats when it isn't. As a very well remunerated officer of the club, he has to be he;d accountable for the operation of the club. As for recruitment, did anyone really think this was purely left to the manager these days ... it's a collaborative approach. It's no surprise the same players get mentioned regardless of the manager, when the recruitment structure remains the same regardless. There's a whole recruitment team with the likes of Leadbetter there. The idea that Jenkins is the one spinning a tombola and picking names out at random is a bit bonkers. |
Question is just how collaborative it actually is?
Too many players have pitched up lately that a number of managers have no knowledge of or interest in for all parties to be having an equal say in the process. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Huw Jenkins on 11:41 - Jan 11 with 2187 views | jack247 |
| Huw Jenkins on 11:25 - Jan 11 by AngelRangelQS |
To be fair the players that came in under Martinez were either via his contacts or Reeves' scouting.
Over the last few years we have not had value for money for our recruits in my honest opinion - certainly the ones that have come about as a result of our manager - eg Laudrup was presumably the one who wanted DeGuzman, Michu, Chico - undoubted successes (and yes I know he signed some duffers too).
Fabianski, Fernandez and Sigurdsson can be deemed to be successes, not that the latter two came cheap and arguable we knew all about Siggy too.
Begs the question as to who is recommending these players/giving the go ahead and what sort of accountability do they have?
We can't afford to simply throw money away on players who aren't up to it. |
Ok, so who is scouting the likes of Eder and Tabanou? Other than that, is the scouting system the problem? As others have said, Tabanou had a decent pedigree before coming here, as did Gomis. Shelvey appears to have gone backwards, Grimes was supposed to be a wonderkid, but hasn't made much impact, Naughton looked a better player at Spurs, Bartley has been here a couple of years now and just doesn't look like a footballer, even Ash and Cork have had wobbles this season.
Is recruitment the biggest issue, or is it the coaching they are getting once they are here? | | | |
| Huw Jenkins on 11:45 - Jan 11 with 2179 views | Wingstandwood |
| Huw Jenkins on 10:02 - Jan 11 by WarwickHunt |
Not to mention Curt admitting it a couple of weeks ago... |
Holy shit!!!! I did not realise that and other previous posted information regarding transfer policy.....Well if HJ has taken up the role as a SCFC scout and is the one whom dictates who is to be bought/brought in than that is absolutely insanity. No wonder Laudrup lost interest? I cannot think of any club run in the same way? Any other examples out there? We're taking about a Premier League club here. Utterly surreal scenario just as bonkers employing our since departed 'managerial/coaching' staff! |  |
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| Huw Jenkins on 11:50 - Jan 11 with 2158 views | monmouth |
| Huw Jenkins on 11:41 - Jan 11 by jack247 |
Ok, so who is scouting the likes of Eder and Tabanou? Other than that, is the scouting system the problem? As others have said, Tabanou had a decent pedigree before coming here, as did Gomis. Shelvey appears to have gone backwards, Grimes was supposed to be a wonderkid, but hasn't made much impact, Naughton looked a better player at Spurs, Bartley has been here a couple of years now and just doesn't look like a footballer, even Ash and Cork have had wobbles this season.
Is recruitment the biggest issue, or is it the coaching they are getting once they are here? |
Well that's been solved now. We have no coaches. |  |
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| Huw Jenkins on 11:52 - Jan 11 with 2145 views | Uxbridge |
| Huw Jenkins on 11:29 - Jan 11 by Dr_Winston |
Question is just how collaborative it actually is?
Too many players have pitched up lately that a number of managers have no knowledge of or interest in for all parties to be having an equal say in the process. |
If the club signed someone that Monk didn't want or sign off on, then I'd agree. Laudrup clearly largely got his way given the amount of players we signed that Tutumlu represented. Ngog and Emnes aside of course, but they were supposedly squad filler anyway.
I've seen precious little evidence the manager has been marginalised in recruitment though. | |
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| Huw Jenkins on 11:55 - Jan 11 with 2135 views | jack247 |
| Huw Jenkins on 11:50 - Jan 11 by monmouth |
Well that's been solved now. We have no coaches. |
Bargain. That will work. | | | |
| Huw Jenkins on 11:55 - Jan 11 with 2134 views | Uxbridge |
| Huw Jenkins on 11:41 - Jan 11 by jack247 |
Ok, so who is scouting the likes of Eder and Tabanou? Other than that, is the scouting system the problem? As others have said, Tabanou had a decent pedigree before coming here, as did Gomis. Shelvey appears to have gone backwards, Grimes was supposed to be a wonderkid, but hasn't made much impact, Naughton looked a better player at Spurs, Bartley has been here a couple of years now and just doesn't look like a footballer, even Ash and Cork have had wobbles this season.
Is recruitment the biggest issue, or is it the coaching they are getting once they are here? |
Tis a good question. Is Gomis crap, misused or both? How do you reconcile the Tabanou who did well in France with the lumbering shambles we saw yesterday. Clearly recruitment went awry this summer, Ayew aside ... we've either recruited duffers or players who don't fit our profile. That needs addressing in the summer. | |
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| Huw Jenkins on 12:10 - Jan 11 with 2096 views | swancity |
| Huw Jenkins on 20:43 - Jan 10 by Dr_Winston |
Wednesday is as close to must win as a game can be at this stage of the season. |
Certainly not a must win but I think it could be a must not lose game | |
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| Huw Jenkins on 12:18 - Jan 11 with 2072 views | Nookiejack |
I just question why is it takeing so long for us to get our transfer business done.
From attached Bournemouth have already made two signings. Time will tell whether they have over paid - but at least players are signed and can be integrated into their system. So mantle of well run club seems to have been passed on to Bournemouth. Having said that £12.5m does seem a lot for a Championship striker and if he does not come off and they get relegated - can't see how this is sustainable with 12,000 crowds.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3392770/Bournemouth-complete-1
From the fixtures we could see Sunderland and Watfrord would be key games at home in January.
It appears we need to sell Jonjo and Gomis before can bring anyone else in.
Yet Jonjo has wanted out and from all the body language looks like haggling is going on - so unlikely to get our business done until end of transfer window - when the winnable fixtures have passed us by. | | | |
| Huw Jenkins on 12:24 - Jan 11 with 2055 views | Dr_Winston |
| Huw Jenkins on 11:55 - Jan 11 by Uxbridge |
Tis a good question. Is Gomis crap, misused or both? How do you reconcile the Tabanou who did well in France with the lumbering shambles we saw yesterday. Clearly recruitment went awry this summer, Ayew aside ... we've either recruited duffers or players who don't fit our profile. That needs addressing in the summer. |
Coaching has been piss poor for a good long while. Don't think there's much doubt about that.
Don't agree with you about the transfer policy though. Squad fillers or not, we're signing too many players that managers just aren't that interested in using. Seems that the board are convinced that a hands on approach from them is required, and that's just going to put reputable managers off.
A bigger club might be able to get away with it. We can't. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Huw Jenkins on 12:28 - Jan 11 with 2039 views | blaine_scfc |
| Huw Jenkins on 08:07 - Jan 11 by Brynmill_Jack |
And shove that academy award up your @rse while you're at it!
Only joking Huw. I think you missed out on the nomination this year. The BAFTAS however............ |
Well over the top I must admit, but was absolutely fuming yesterday.
Calmed down a bit now, will be locking myself away from Planet Swans if we perform like that against Sunderland. |  | | |
| Huw Jenkins on 12:30 - Jan 11 with 2035 views | Bloodyhills |
| Huw Jenkins on 14:17 - Jan 10 by blaine_scfc |
Good on him. Thanks for that Huw. Your a rich man for your successes at Swansea. I personally think the swans trust are the main reason for us still having a club after the Petty days. They should change their representative on the board aswell. HC brings nothing but bulls*it socIal media posts |
You really don't seem to understand why there is a Swansea City today. If it weren't for Hugh and the others throwing there money in to save the club, and at the time there was a huge likelihood they would lose it all, then there wouldn't be a Swansea City today that we can all watch and moan about on social media. Get a fecking grip. | |
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| Huw Jenkins on 12:31 - Jan 11 with 2024 views | perchrockjack |
I agree with winton there.
Its anther reason to feel depressed .
Is there a way out with this board or are we truly fecked.
We ve got fans now going back 4 years to the abysmal Shrewsbury performance to make us feel better. Smells like teen spitit | |
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| Huw Jenkins on 12:34 - Jan 11 with 2012 views | blaine_scfc |
| Huw Jenkins on 12:30 - Jan 11 by Bloodyhills |
You really don't seem to understand why there is a Swansea City today. If it weren't for Hugh and the others throwing there money in to save the club, and at the time there was a huge likelihood they would lose it all, then there wouldn't be a Swansea City today that we can all watch and moan about on social media. Get a fecking grip. |
I agree, but as someone said earlier he gets a hefty salary these days so should be judged on the things he is doing now.
As my previous posts state, I was fuming yesterday and was more than over the top, but certain things need to be addressed whether we survive this season or not. Our finanials are not as rosey as some would like to think according to figures quoted on here.
I do agree though, I shouldn't have spouted off that harshly. | | | |
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